A geostrategic scenario of a "HOT WAR" at the Western border of Pakistan

[jetray]

False Flag Scenario -3: US army enters Pakistan in an apparently declared "hot pursuit" of terrorists. PA responds. After this all hell breaks loose.

ok this is nothing but pure nonsense. To invade you need a large force and supply lines to feed it. Given that NATO supply line passes through pakistan itself, no one would plan invading by destroying their supply line.

 

[litman]

US can take action like abbotabad or salalah incidents to humiliate pakistan. they wont come unprepared. if pak tries to intercept the incoming US helicopters, drones their fighter jets will shoot down pakistani jets out of the sky.

 

[PakSword]

Let us create a Hot War Scenario on the Western border of Pakistan, in the context of events in the last 72-hours:

• COAS of Pak Army giving an in-camera briefing in Senate - an unprecedented event.
• USA blowing hot air from it's front and "back side" towards Pakistan.
• An "existing air" that something "serious" is about to happen.
• Pakistan ringing Russia on a daily basis, and Russia listening and responding.
• China, fully aware and remain involved; but keeps a cool composure.
• Neutralizing CPEC being the main target for US
• US bringing ISIS inside Afghanistan
• US wants to establish a "buffer zone" inside Pakistan, using action against Haqqani network as a 'smoke screen'.
• Gen Asif Ghafoor's call to nation in his press conference: "hum sab mil kar khatroan ka muqablah karein gey".

Given the above, if a "hot war starts", what will be the possible 9/11 like "false flags" that could happen:

False Flag Scenario -1: PAF is cornered into a situation where it has no option but to shoot down a US drone. After this all hell breaks loose.

False Flag Scenario -2: A Salah type attack on a Pakistani check post and PA has no option but retaliate to save the lives of its soldiers. US declares that PA attacked US to protect Haqqanis - which were under attack from US. After this all hell breaks loose.

False Flag Scenario -3: US army enters Pakistan in an apparently declared "hot pursuit" of terrorists. PA responds. After this all hell breaks loose.

Your comments on the most likely "false flag" scenario from above.... OR any other even more likely scenario.

How will the WAR then unfold?
Keeping China, Russia, India and Iran in context.

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I don't know how it will be carried out.. but i think internal chaos will be the start.. followed by something big outside of Pakistan... and then creating an atmosphere to get some area where a buffer zone can be created.. This will happen by multiple hot pursuits, resisted by PA.. deaths of hippies will result in an all out conflict and you know, some opportunists on the east are waiting for this opportunity..

Pakistan will face two front war on her east and west both... The most ghatiya and opportunist nation on the planet will try to move into an area which is disputed.. to effectively put an end to CPEC.. Pak may or may not use nukes, but Pak will not use nukes on our poor western neighbors.

It will be an start of a long long gorilla war, in which I will participate in shaa Allah..

Nice imagination, isn't it?

 

[Maxpane]

nothing will happen

 

[Mr ambassador]

mark my words :

They will never conquer Pakistan militarily, but they will invade Pakistan economically . They succeeded .


Pakistan has lost war on economy .


The western puppets and economic hitman have been taking loans since 2008 .


Imagine what will be breaking news of media outlets if a nuclear power state becomes bankrupt .?!

Current economic scenario is alarming !! we are the most hypocrite nation ignoring our ignorance since 70 years.

 

[SabzShaheen]

Some people in this thread too deep into their wet dreams...

 

[Silverblaze]

In the words of Gen Tariq. Since US is a superpower no one should expect Pakistan army to fight them. Pakistan can be put under sanctions. The solution is in bringing the house in order. If the internal muscles are working well, everything is good. right now even having cricket matches is a major mission.

 

[cocomo]

It will happen in very subtle ways. Here I paraphrase a BJP douche on Indian tv.
"India will use its clout and influence to denying Pakistan any IMF funds, secondly India will use their "friends" at Pakistan's eastern border to keep a state of turmoil."

There was this paper Hussain Haqqani shared on twitter 1-2 months ago where the author went around Pakistan interviewing different Pak military officials about why is there a trust deficit b/w US and Pakistan. And multiple officials reiterated that US is using "Chaos theory" to push Pakistan in their desired direction.

Chaos theory: the branch of mathematics that deals with complex systems whose behaviour is highly sensitive to slight changes in conditions.

For a (easy to understand) demonstration of Chaos theory watch the "The Butterfly effect" movie.

Butterfly effect: In chaos theory, the butterfly effect is the sensitive dependence on initial conditions in which a small change in one state of a deterministic dynamic system can result in large differences in a later state.

While trying to find use of chaos theory in political science I found a paper written by a US official serving in Afghanistan who proposed and outlined the use of Chaos theory in Afghanistan.

This article titled "Controlled Chaos - A tool of Geopolitic.. " is a great read.

Mann wrote an article titled Chaos Theory and Strategic Thought // Parameters (US Army War College Quarterly, Vol. XXII, Autumn 1992, pp. 54-68). In this article, he lays out the following theses: “We can learn a lot if we view chaos and reorganization as opportunities, and not pursue stability as an illusory goal…” “The international environment is an excellent example of a chaotic system, with “self-organizing criticality” being a useful analytical tool. The world is doomed to be chaotic, because the many human actors in politics have different objectives and values.” “Each actor in politically critical systems creates conflict energy, …which provokes a change in status quo thus participating in creating a critical situation…and any course of action brings the state of affairs into an unavoidable cataclysmic reorganization.”

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Thanks for tagging me..

I don't know how it will be carried out.. but i think internal chaos will be the start.. followed by something big outside of Pakistan... and then creating an atmosphere to get some area where a buffer zone can be created.. This will happen by multiple hot pursuits, resisted by PA.. deaths of hippies will result in an all out conflict and you know, some opportunists on the east are waiting for this opportunity..

Pakistan will face two front war on her east and west both... The most ghatiya and opportunist nation on the planet will try to move into an area which is disputed.. to effectively put an end to CPEC.. Pak may or may not use nukes, but Pak will not use nukes on our poor western neighbors.

It will be an start of a long long gorilla war, in which I will participate in shaa Allah..

Nice imagination, isn't it?

Very close to "being possible"

ok this is nothing but pure nonsense. To invade you need a large force and supply lines to feed it. Given that NATO supply line passes through pakistan itself, no one would plan invading by destroying their supply line.

You have have not managed to understand the point at all.

 

[CriticalThought]

There is one very strong argument against a full on war with Pakistan. Recent years have shown that war in Muslim nations leads to ISIS style movements. Currently Pakistan is acting as a buffer to what is happening in Afghanistan. Any breakdown of government would lead to ISIS like groups consolidating position in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and India using considerable weapons of Pak Army and local population. The resulting monster would be such as not witnessed by the world to date. Syria would pale in comparison.

Unfortunately, such logical reasoning would be lost upon the fanatical Hindu mind. Such people are easy pickings for the US to do its bidding. The US makes them feel and taste a false sense of power. Saddam, Ghaddafi, and now Modi. I do hope sense and sensibility prevails.

 

[Gurjot.S]

Take a nap, no possibility of that. Pakistan can light the world on fire, starting with India and bases. It has a very credible deterrence. Iran and NK do not even come close.

r u sers ?

 

[ZedZeeshan]

1 False flag in India will make the scenario..!!

 

[Mrc]

Pakistan is Iran North Korea and hizbullah multiplied by about 1000...
11000 yanks in Afghanistan with supplies passing through pak.... aircraft carrers are at risk... push pk too far ... many can die and rest may live in etenal eternal nuclear winter... if they can.... it' not a joke like many think here

Our problems are internal at this point of time till fore seeable future

Price paid by US for salala was huge in terms of billions ... probably losses incurred range around 100 billion from closure of supply route for a year

And in end they had to apologise.... so what did they achieve????????

 

[Dil Pakistan]

There is one very strong argument against a full on war with Pakistan. Recent years have shown that war in Muslim nations leads to ISIS style movements. Currently Pakistan is acting as a buffer to what is happening in Afghanistan. Any breakdown of government would lead to ISIS like groups consolidating position in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and India using considerable weapons of Pak Army and local population. The resulting monster would be such as not witnessed by the world to date. Syria would pale in comparison.

Unfortunately, such logical reasoning would be lost upon the fanatical Hindu mind. Such people are easy pickings for the US to do its bidding. The US makes them feel and taste a false sense of power. Saddam, Ghaddafi, and now Modi. I do hope sense and sensibility prevails.

I would only add one "deviation" in your post:

It is the "war mongerers" that have created ISIS....they want ISIS to spread like wild fire. This is how they will achieve their objectives.

Therefore, Pakistan acting as a buffer against the ISIS is actually halting their nefarious designs. They would very much want this hurdle to be removed.

 

[CriticalThought]

I would only add one "deviation" in your post:

It is the "war mongerers" that have created ISIS....they want ISIS to spread like wild fire. This is how they will achieve their objectives.

Therefore, Pakistan acting as a buffer against the ISIS is actually halting their nefarious designs. They would very much want this hurdle to be removed.

Hopefully the idiots ruling India these days will also see this.