A geostrategic scenario of a "HOT WAR" at the Western border of Pakistan

[war&peace]

I agree. But that was sardonic reply to the OP's rather far fetched scenario if not bordering on delusional scenario.

I couldn't get sarcasm. USA and Pakistan won't have a direct military conflict even if Pakistan goes fully in Russian camp not because Pakistan is very powerful rather because neither of the establishments are that stupid. Pakistan is not Iraq under Saddam. So the proxy wars will keep going on between the intelligence agencies.

 

[cleverrider]

Take a nap, no possibility of that. Pakistan can light the world on fire, starting with India and bases. It has a very credible deterrence. Iran and NK do not even come close.

 

[Azadkashmir]

Christmas is near, one is to be very suspicious about some false flag.

 

[war&peace]

Engage with EU on a weekly basis via their ambassadors inside Pakistan. I can tell you EU is not happy with US at all - at the moment.

EU is not happy with USA and on China, EU normally gives a shut up call to USA though Russia has a different history. However Pakistan is no China and furthermore, we have the worst foreign office. Most of our ambassadors are our enemies, extremely corrupt and westoxified people with low-IQ and no sense of loyalty. If their actions get documented and revealed, the nation will be infuriated. A decade ago, one of Pakistan's ambassador made USD 2 billion worth of assets. They live in very expensive houses that are totally disproportionate to Pakistan's economy and status. Their is a case when an ambassador literally paid EUR 1000 tip to the waiter / waitress and it got reimbursed to him from our taxes.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

EU is not happy with USA and on China, EU normally gives a shut up call to USA though Russia has a different history. However Pakistan is no China and furthermore, we have the worst foreign office. Most of our ambassadors are our enemies, extremely corrupt and westoxified people with low-IQ and no sense of loyalty. If their actions get documented and revealed, the nation will be infuriated. A decade ago, one of Pakistan's ambassador made USD 2 billion worth of assets. They live in very expensive houses that are totally disproportionate to Pakistan's economy and status. Their is a case when an ambassador literally paid EUR 1000 tip to the waiter / waitress and it got reimbursed to him from our taxes.

Fair points and I agree.

But I mentioned to engage with EU via their ambassadors inside Pakistan. In this way we have a good control who engages with EU on our behalf.

EU has never given a shut up call to US. They consider US as their asset and best trading partner (NATO is intact). They are now a days with US due to Trumps follies.

 

[Awan68]

Let us create a Hot War Scenario on the Western border of Pakistan, in the context of events in the last 72-hours:

• COAS of Pak Army giving an in-camera briefing in Senate - an unprecedented event.
• USA blowing hot air from it's front and "back side" towards Pakistan.
• An "existing air" that something "serious" is about to happen.
• Pakistan ringing Russia on a daily basis, and Russia listening and responding.
• China, fully aware and remain involved; but keeps a cool composure.
• Neutralizing CPEC being the main target for US
• US bringing ISIS inside Afghanistan
• US wants to establish a "buffer zone" inside Pakistan, using action against Haqqani network as a 'smoke screen'.
• Gen Asif Ghafoor's call to nation in his press conference: "hum sab mil kar khatroan ka muqablah karein gey".

Given the above, if a "hot war starts", what will be the possible 9/11 like "false flags" that could happen:

False Flag Scenario -1: PAF is cornered into a situation where it has no option but to shoot down a US drone. After this all hell breaks loose.

False Flag Scenario -2: A Salah type attack on a Pakistani check post and PA has no option but retaliate to save the lives of its soldiers. US declares that PA attacked US to protect Haqqanis - which were under attack from US. After this all hell breaks loose.

False Flag Scenario -3: US army enters Pakistan in an apparently declared "hot pursuit" of terrorists. PA responds. After this all hell breaks loose.

Your comments on the most likely "false flag" scenario from above.... OR any other even more likely scenario.

How will the WAR then unfold?
Keeping China, Russia, India and Iran in context.

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1) we can shoot down a Us drone, nothing will happen, all they can and will do is yell at us or maybe sanctions.
2) not only can we roast the yanks if they cross into Pakistan, we can roast them in Afghanistan too( by u knw who), nothing will happen.
3)All of the above will never be attempted by Us for the simple fact of Pakistan bieng a nuclear power with very powerful friends. Shugal nhn hai mery bhai, Israel is in our stated range and most probably America in non stated range.

 

[Whirling_dervesh]

Irrespective of all the above, pakistan needs to as a matter of urgency test ICBM, and let the world know. If they face punitive sanctions so be it, better than this daily dose of do more. You cant fight a bully by constantly giving in to their demands, you need to take a stance and grow a pair of balls....

 

[Awan68]

Irrespective of all the above, pakistan needs to as a matter of urgency test ICBM, and let the world know. If they face punitive sanctions so be it, better than this daily dose of do more. You cant fight a bully by constantly giving in to their demands, you need to take a stance and grow a pair of balls....

If we dont actually have several undeclared icbms by now, i would consider it treason to Pakistan by the deep state and shot callers themselves. You might see a test or two if American threats increase to a point where a shut up call becomes necessary.

 

[YeBeWarned]

what if we make some holes in the trump's Afghan wall to sneak some Haqqani's in ? that will p!ss of Umrikan

 

[Awan68]

what if we make some holes in the trump's Afghan wall to sneak some Haqqani's in ? that will p!ss of Umrikan

Been there done that

 

[YeBeWarned]

Been there done that

we should send some Used second hand Taliban to Afghanistan as Gift ... but i doubt war is coming but heavy skirmishes are possible.

 

[Awan68]

we should send some Used second hand Taliban to Afghanistan as Gift ... but i doubt war is coming but heavy skirmishes are possible.

Used sary pehle hi Afghanistan men bheej chuke, nw we might send brand new, pinpack, with warranty seal and all the other goodies

 

[YeBeWarned]

Used sary pehle hi Afghanistan men bheej chuke, nw we might send brand new, pinpack, with warranty seal and all the other goodies

Paiti Pack bhejte hai bhai .. Old Taliban are well settled in Western Afghanistan with each Taliban having 100 Kids , and 300 Wives at his disposal Soon Americans will be opening Baby Sitting centers for these Taliban Kids in Khandhar and Kabul

 

[Sharpshooter12]

Nothing of this sort is going to happen on the western border. US can not afford to, does not want to and don't need to start an active conflict with Pakistan and btw neither does Pakistan. And no CPEC does not affect US in any significant way, they might be against OBOR concept as a whole but CPEC in itself does not have any major Geo-Strategic importance to US. We in our minds sometimes overplay our importance on the world stage.

Have you seen this before? Yes Iraq 2004.

Well Iraq's tragedy was that its WMD did not exist, ours do. I don't see US being keen on following the same script in NK, a much smaller and less powerful country than we are.

 

[Awan68]

Paiti Pack bhejte hai bhai .. Old Taliban are well settled in Western Afghanistan with each Taliban having 100 Kids , and 300 Wives at his disposal Soon Americans will be opening Baby Sitting centers for these Taliban Kids in Khandhar and Kabul