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a doubt regarding india's secularism

Kerela has No Big Metros Which May be a Sore Point for a International Visitor Who may be interested in Shopping,Lurking. Cochin too will not fit the space ..

Nobody comes here for shopping.. we are into eco tourism , farm tourism and adventure tourism and also its the hub of ayurveda.. for shopping we go to dubai... LOL

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I know Indians won't like to hear this, but there are some inherent flaws in the Indian society. The biggest one is the lack of population control, which makes India very hard to manage. India is the most diverse country in the world, with huge representations from every religion. However, because India is too big to handle sometimes, there is an overwhelming epidemic of corruption, which leads to a whole range of issues; such as poverty, uneven wealth distribution, & an increasing gap between corporate India & the masses, which leads to separatist movements. It also leads to religious extremism in certain religious groups & power struggles, particularly in Muslims & Hindus, as they are the biggest religious representations in India. Although India's secular nature overcomes many of these issues, & even the issues of religious extremism, but it also serves as a cover to mask these issues in a way, not as a means to solve these huge problems. And for India to truly progress, it needs to stick to its secular model for governance, but not let it serve as a mask to India's grave problems. It is only when these huge problems in India are solved that India will truly prosper.

Dude wrong thread i guess. ...or is it copy pasted words fit for all threads???
 
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India is not a hindu nation but a hindu majority nation. There are so much of sacred temples there in Kerela which generates lot of revenue.
When did you need a diff minister? The answer is when the load to look after some thing becomes cumbersome and complex for a single department. The case is with kerela hence different minister.
But does the existence of a seperate minister for Kerela temples deprive any of Indian muslims of their rights?
Secularism is when nationality comes first than religion and all Indians are equal.
 
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I know Indians won't like to hear this, but there are some inherent flaws in the Indian society. The biggest one is the lack of population control, which makes India very hard to manage. India is the most diverse country in the world, with huge representations from every religion. However, because India is too big to handle sometimes, there is an overwhelming epidemic of corruption, which leads to a whole range of issues; such as poverty, uneven wealth distribution, & an increasing gap between corporate India & the masses, which leads to separatist movements. It also leads to religious extremism in certain religious groups & power struggles, particularly in Muslims & Hindus, as they are the biggest religious representations in India. Although India's secular nature overcomes many of these issues, & even the issues of religious extremism, but it also serves as a cover to mask these issues in a way, not as a means to solve these huge problems. And for India to truly progress, it needs to stick to its secular model for governance, but not let it serve as a mask to India's grave problems. It is only when these huge problems in India are solved that India will truly prosper.

Yep, true. But population control chinease way is very unpopular in india. We are slowing down, but not as fast as we want. We inherited this problem, we were always populous.
Education is the best contraceptive, I think it is working.
 
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Thats my city u were talking about.. the things you have told are common to all foreign delegates..

go on... more...
Ok, we had a brief session
With a popular cine artist. That
Guy was really popular and had a fairly well vocabulary compared to others(except
the hotel staff).
We had to wait for our transportation for a while. When it arrived,we went on to
analyse citi's transportaion facilities.
 
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Ok, we had a brief session
With a popular cine artist. That
Guy was really popular and had a fairly well vocabulary compared to others(except
the hotel staff).
We had to wait for our transportation for a while. When it arrived,we went on to
analyse citi's transportaion facilities.

City transport is a mess. any idea who the film star was... ?? Usually the big ones dont go for these meetings unless its of utmost importance.

Anyway go on.. its sounds interesting.
 
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Constable Spark!!!!!!!!!
How is the interrogation going on?
Did the suspect spill something???
:police:
 
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Constable Spark!!!!!!!!!
How is the interrogation going on?
Did the suspect spill something???
:police:

Nope .. now into initial stages. .........polygraph test will be the final ones before we hand over to Intelligence.
 
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City transport is a mess. any idea who the film star was... ?? Usually the big ones dont go for these meetings unless its of utmost importance.

Anyway go on.. its sounds interesting.
I don't remember his name. But he was really popular. Everyone was looking at him. We say his face in several movie ads too. He has received some really good national awards too.

By the first day we got an idea about the transport in the city.
1. No pre-planning.
2. Even though some roads were good,they lacked the 'look' ie poorly kept road sides kills the impression.
3.buses and taxis-horrible!
 
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Nope .. now into initial stages. .........polygraph test will be the final ones before we hand over to Intelligence.

Be carefull and a bit easy on him...............he might burst in process.:lol:
 
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I don't remember his name. But he was really popular. Everyone was looking at him. We say his face in several movie ads too. He has received some really good national awards too.

By the first day we got an idea about the transport in the city.
1. No pre-planning.
2. Even though some roads were good,they lacked the 'look' ie poorly kept road sides kills the impression.
3.buses and taxis-horrible!

Thats quite true.. things havent changed much either..But some good projects are going on and all roads have been widened and new low floor air conditioned buses have been introduced. but still the potholes exists due to bad management and the rains which are of plenty which makes it a mess.

Also the traffic etiquette of the public is pathetic.. its everywhere in India. But things are changing with traffic islands and signals and even trivandrum has introduced traffic cameras.. but im not sure whether people are scared of violating rules or are going in front of the speed cameras and giving a funny smile.
 
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Ok ok,i do respect your religious coexistence.
Sorry for the offensive post above.
My question is,there are lot of important mosques and temples in india. Why only this particular province has a separate ministry and a minister for temples?


First of all, After Independence in 1947 kingdoms of Travancore, Cochin (in 1949) and Malabar ( in 1956) joined to form the state of Kerala on 1 November 1956.Before that Temples were run by the respective kingdoms.Travancore Devaswom Board is an autonomous body formed as per the Travancore Cochin Hindu Religious Institutions Act of 1950.Later Board is merged with the Government of Kerala.

Most of those temples are very rich (think super rich) and also produces alot of revenue (like ~200 crore in a month during pilgrim seasons).Its not the kind of money you could let a few private individuals handle.

But the Christians and Muslims have their own strong religious boards to run their churches and mosques, and the revenue from them goes to those boards.But in case of Hindus, they don't have religious unions or committees.So Kerala govt collects the revenue from the Temples and use them for Public welfare.Smaller temples or the ones after 1956 are left to the original trustees.

I think there is a campaign let by RSS,NSS,BJP and Hindu Aikya Vedi to return these temples to original trustees.Because the organisation has been deemed unconstitutional, since the so-called "secular" Government is running and profiting from a major religious organisation its kinda unfair. Other criticism include the inability of the Board to sufficiently operate major temples in Kerala, despite the huge profits that the Board receives.
 
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Thats quite true.. things havent changed much either..But some good projects are going on and all roads have been widened and new low floor air conditioned buses have been introduced. but still the potholes exists due to bad management and the rains which are of plenty which makes it a mess.

Also the traffic etiquette of the public is pathetic.. its everywhere in India. But things are changing with traffic islands and signals and even trivandrum has introduced traffic cameras.. but im not sure whether people are scared of violating rules or are going in front of the speed cameras and giving a funny smile.
That city didn't even had traffic lamps!WW1 Era buses.
The police men were like beggars! None of them even speaks english!
 
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First of all, After Independence in 1947 kingdoms of Travancore, Cochin (in 1949) and Malabar ( in 1956) joined to form the state of Kerala on 1 November 1956.Before that Temples were run by the respective kingdoms.Travancore Devaswom Board is an autonomous body formed as per the Travancore Cochin Hindu Religious Institutions Act of 1950.Later Board is merged with the Government of Kerala.

Most of those temples are very rich (think super rich) and also produces alot of revenue (like ~200 crore in a month during pilgrim seasons).Its not the kind of money you could let a few private individuals handle.

But the Christians and Muslims have their own strong religious boards to run their churches and mosques, and the revenue from them goes to those boards.But in case of Hindus, they don't have religious unions or committees.So Kerala govt collects the revenue from the Temples and use them for Public welfare.Smaller temples or the ones after 1956 are left to the original trustees.

I think there is a campaign let by RSS,NSS,BJP and Hindu Aikya Vedi to return these temples to original trustees.Because the organisation has been deemed unconstitutional, since the so-called "secular" Government is running and profiting from a major religious organisation its kinda unfair. Other criticism include the inability of the Board to sufficiently operate major temples in Kerala, despite the huge profits that the Board receives.

Absolutly the debate is still on the ownership of padmanabha swamy temple in trivandrum whether the government should take over the trust or not..

PS: Surprised to seeya.. oduvil unni nee vannu allae.. Melcow..:welcome:
 
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That city didn't even had traffic lamps!WW1 Era buses.
The police men were like beggars! None of them even speaks english!

They still dont speak ... they may be inspectors, constables and all.. but they are not beggaaarsssss....

You might be surprised how much the city has changed now with the greenest IT park and big skyline..
 
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