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RIP to Shaoyo Liu and condolence to the familly.

We will soon know what happen exactly that day but it looks like some people are trying to manipulate the mob to take advantage of the "emotional reaction".

Above some extract of an article from "Le Parisien" newspaper :
http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-dive...-les-incidents-a-paris-30-03-2017-6811305.php

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Death of Shaoyo Liu: a secret note on the incidents in Paris
An internal intelligence document (DGSI = French Internal Secret Services) says that various actors infiltrate the movement triggered by the death of a Chinese man killed by a police officer: mafia networks, Beijing agents and revolted youths.

Since the death of Shaoyo Liu, the 56-year-old Chinese man who was killed on Sunday by a policeman in the 19th arrondissement of Paris, there have been incidents in the capital despite the calm appeals of relatives of the deceased. The situation became sufficiently worrying for the French intelligence services to investigate these slippages.


According to our information, a note from the Directorate General of Internal Security (DGSI) provides some initial answers. This confidential document-defense, written Wednesday and transmitted to the highest authorities of the State, notes in particular that Chinese mafia networks are in the maneuver behind the rallies in connection with the death of Shaoyo Liu and the violence that enamelled them.


According to the report, individuals known by the police have been perfectly identified on the ground, trying to crush the gatherings without the knowledge of the family of the deceased fifty-year-old.


Among them, a "big fish" from Aubervilliers (Seine-Saint-Denis) known for clandestine gambling and procuring cases. They hope, according to the document of the DGSI, to recover "the security market" from the Chinese community of the XIXth arrondissement. In essence, mafia networks use the death of Shaoyo Liu as a pretext to try to extend their grip on this community.


The ultra-confidential note provides additional information. According to the DGSI, this movement of protest, headed by a close relative of the Chinese Communist Party and a secret agent - both invested in the movement of associations in France - escapes their control. Indeed, the movement brings together many young people, very demanding, who do not want to hear about either the Beijing relays or the mafia bands.


The document also raises the veil on another reality that is played behind the scenes of this drama. Beijing sees very badly the manipulations of the mafia networks, as well as the desire of independence of the mobilized young people. This is why the Chinese authorities have quickly set up the niche. They have officially asked France to shed light on the case of Shaoyo Liu's death, killed by an official in self-defense according to the police, victim of a blunder according to his relatives.


But, beyond the facts and their circumstances, it is a struggle of influence that is played out under the hand. The note of the DGSI reminds in essence that Beijing has good relays in the Chinese community of the XIIIth arrondissement of Paris where nothing of what happens does not escape. On the other hand, the Chinese settled in the XIXth arrondissement of the capital or in Aubervilliers are more threatened by the influence of mafia networks. And that, Peking dreads it.


Also according to the note of the DGSI, Beijing would therefore outrage indignation since the death of Shaoyo Liu and would operate its own relays in order to coalition communities to avoid leaving the field open to mafia networks and try to take over the young Refractory movements. A double capital challenge for Beijing.


All of the elements in this secret document tend to prove that the death of Shaoyo Liu is the subject of numerous recoveries, far from the desire for truth displayed and demanded by the family of the deceased. This Thursday evening, a new gathering was organized Place de la République in Paris and another in Bastille. At 2230 hours, no incident was reported. "
 
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The involved officers,were heard by the IGPN (basically,the police of the police) and here's their version ;

A neighbor called the Police after reporting the presence of a man moving in the common parts of the building armed with a knife in his hand. The Liui's door was opening and closing briefly. The officers reached the area and after the door did not open despite ordering to, they forced their entry after the screams and cries increased inside. Mr Liu rushed and stabbed an officer under the arm,and another officer shot and killed Mr Liu after attempting to stab the officer a second time.

Of course, the independent justice will shed the light on what happened, give sanctions if justified and deserved, but hard when the two given versions are totally,different.
 
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The involved officers,were heard by the IGPN (basically,the police of the police) and here's their version ;

A neighbor called the Police after reporting the presence of a man moving in the common parts of the building armed with a knife in his hand. The Liui's door was opening and closing birefly. The officers reached the area and after the door did not open despite ordering to,they forced their entry after the screams and cries increased inside. Mr Liu rushed and stabbed an officer under the arm,and another officer shot and killed Mr Liu after attempting to stab the officer a second time.

Of course,the independent justice will shed the light on what happened,give sanctions if justified and deserved,but hard when the two given versions are totally,different.

WE will probably see French Police will wear body cam from now on. Which is actually a good thing.
 
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WE will probably see French Police will wear body cam from now on. Which is actually a good thing.

The body cams are being generalized from what I've read. Those working in "difficult areas" already have them.

The officers have a good opinion of them. That is an essential tool for the investigations,to shed the light on what really happened,to avoid any misconduct by or against officers etc.

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I know that Chinese are overall good people,but they have to get used to the fact that Chinese communities around the world contain rogue elements. Because what I see on this thread is basically that "he's Chinese,so he can't do anything wrong".
 
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Franch policeman is a simple job. If see anyone who looks dangerous, just shot to kill.
 
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This is the internal matter of France. Unwelcome interference in our domestic affairs will be strictly prohibited.

Can you give a credible link in which Chinese government/state wants to interfere into this domestic affairs of France?
 
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I think the French police have been amateurish in handling critical situations. Just take a look at Langley's Charlie Hebdo and Bataclan operations. They were completely clueless and overwhelmed.

Well wasn't better with German 3 terro attacks in a row...
 
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With Paris crime rate nowadays.
Some people with Plain clothes bang on your door in the middle of the night.
Damn, If you open the door. you must be really stupid ! :mad:

Why frenchy police don't use Bikini too, when break in to civilian private property in the middle of the night?
Maybe that will give them, more Professional images :crazy:

@TaiShang @Kyle Sun @shadows888 @Jlaw

Yes, plainclothes preference is interesting, given that France is no foreign to minority vandalism, open g the door to a group of people screaming to be the police is not so simple.

There are two very opposing versions and the official police account will eventually be accepted as truth. Security offices always cover each other. So, I have no hope for a satisfactory justice to emerge.

France is not foreign to minority riots, as well. Their tough act on the streets can be understood, but this case, no matter how violent this old man could be, is very difficult to account for.
 
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