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Second night of riots in Paris after police 'shot a Chinese man dead in front of his family as he answered the front door carrying a pair of scissors'
By Peter Allen and Kelly Mclaughlin For Mailonline16:35 28 Mar 2017, updated 02:04 29 Mar 2017

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  • Shaoyo Liu who was shot dead on Sunday night after police were called to his flat
  • Police said that Liu attacked them with a knife 'as soon as the door opened'
  • But Liu's children said he was only holding a pair of scissors used to cut fish
  • Riots broke out in Paris a day after Liu was shot and killed by the police officer
  • China urged France to protect its citizens after 35 people were arrested
 
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All the news didnt seem to reveal whether the undercover police had produced their IDs when the barged into the household barbarically and fired at the victim

RIP comrade

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Cannot blame these french jokes, these frog excuse of "armed forces" are pretty worthless against cavemen with AK-47s, they must try to regain their morale/confidence through shooting some unarmed cook.
 
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I guess "hard-working" cannot replace bruality displayed in the killing. It is a great virtue for us Chinese; but a fear engendering and spreading amongst the laid-back peoples

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That's the only way to solve these things from the root.

To this case, we can do almost nothing.
If he is a American, France couldn't do the same.
 
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No, offense, but this is totally stupid. Chinese and other Asians are described as the model minority in America - eg the most desirable immigrants - work hard, educated, peaceful, tolerant, etc. You know what they get for that? non-stop hate.

It's not us. Get that through your head. It's the insane disease of White racism that will not stop. The only thing they understand is payback. Nothing else works. Chinese have tried being nice for over a century to what end? The best thing all Asians can do is leverage the power of their home countries to inflict consequences eg use China's film market force positive portrayals of Asians - not just the government, to punish any person or company that portrays Asians negatively. this is a must because all Asians are perceived to be the same. An insult to a Japanese also harms a Chinese and vice versa. Like it or not, that is the reality. Don't be a fool cheering as white men kill Japanese men on screen. To white racists, you're all the same.


You didn't understand me.
I mean we need achieve more GDP and more powerful weapons.
If we don't rely on any country, are much bigger than any other country, France won't do the same thing to any Chinese again.
 
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China demands safety for nationals in France after Chinese man was shot dead in his home by French police
(People's Daily Online) 08:48, March 29, 2017

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The Chinese Foreign Ministry has summoned a French diplomat after a Chinese national was killed by French police in Paris, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying told a daily news briefing on Tuesday.

Hua asked French authorities to investigate the incident thoroughly and ensure the safety of Chinese nationals on French soil.

Later on Tuesday, Reuters reported that French police opened an investigation into the incident.

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On Monday, the Chinese embassy in France released a statement calling upon French police “to identify the truth” as soon as possible.

Liu Shaoyo, a 56-year-old Chinese man, was shot dead on Sunday by French police who arrived at his home over a “family dispute”. The French police claimed that their officer shot Liu in self defense, saying he was holding scissors. However, his family said he had only been cutting fish when the officers arrived.
 
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Condolenses on the man's death .....quite tragic to be accidentally shot at your own home. Very sad news
Wonder if it was just case of accidental trigger fire or if more wrong doing was involved

He was shot by another officer after attacking another as soon as the door was opened. The officer was rushed to hospital with non life injuries. How can you call it an accident ? It doesn't matter if the man was a Chinese or not,he would have suffered the same fate.

All the news didnt seem to reveal whether the undercover police had produced their IDs when the barged into the household barbarically and fired at the victim

RIP comrade

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The officers forced into the home after hearing children screaming inside. They intervened as any other officers would do in the world fearing harm would be done to anyone.

This frog excuse of police are really very brave against a Chinese who try to cook a fish:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/paris-clashes-over-police-killing-chinese-man-3-081455865.html

How did an officer get injured ? Riiiiiiiiiight,he injured himself,of course,so that their story looks realistic.


Stop thinking France is some kind of banana republic where the Police and Gendarmerie forces shoot people randomly and where the state looks the other way.

Lot of hypocrits over here. If a French national in China stabbed an officer and hen was shot dead,I wouldn't make such a fuss of it and would say that the Chinese Police did its job. And lot of you would praise them.
 
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You didn't understand me.
I mean we need achieve more GDP and more powerful weapons.
If we don't rely on any country, are much bigger than any other country, France won't do the same thing to any Chinese again.
Powerful weapons are one thing. The will to use it is another. When president Xi made a comment on one of his speech about "violence is not part of Chinese DNA", the west take this as weakness even if it's just lip service to calm the smaller Asian countries. THAAD deployment was also viewed as Chinese weakness. I always felt SK was using Chinese for its market, but China think economics will bring SK on their side.


Chinese media does not do enough to highlight the truth about the irrational anti-Chinese hate across the Western world - driven mainly by the hateful stereotypes by the host countries through their so-called "entertainment". They need to stop painting a false picture of "post-racial", "honorable", "benevolent", and "civilized" Westerners. They are brainwashing Chinese into vulnerable sheep. It's criminally stupid.
YES. all Chinese media.
 
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Attack them as soon as the door was opened?
Oh, come off it! Buy a gun now.
Only when you are able to kill those fker policemen will they treat you politely.
 
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He was shot by another officer after attacking another as soon as the door was opened. The officer was rushed to hospital with non life injuries. How can you call it an accident ? It doesn't matter if the man was a Chinese or not,he would have suffered the same fate.



The officers forced into the home after hearing children screaming inside. They intervened as any other officers would do in the world fearing harm would be done to anyone.



How did an officer get injured ? Riiiiiiiiiight,he injured himself,of course,so that their story looks realistic.


Stop thinking France is some kind of banana republic where the Police and Gendarmerie forces shoot people randomly and where the state looks the other way.

Lot of hypocrits over here. If a French national in China stabbed an officer and hen was shot dead,I wouldn't make such a fuss of it and would say that the Chinese Police did its job. And lot of you would praise them.

I think, what we know so far on the FACTS are the following.

1.) Police was called to the address where Liu lives.
2.) Policemen were injured in the altercation as per hospital reports.
3.) Liu was holding a scissor when he was killed
4.) Multiple Police Officer were attending to the incident, a back up shot Liu.
5.) Liu dies of his injury.

What is disputed.

1.) Police Claim Liu attacks the Policemen at the door with the scissors
2.) Liu's daughter claim Liu was cutting fish (with a scissors??) when the Police Barged/Broke in and shot Liu almost immediately.
3.) Liu's daughter claim Liu was immediately tackle to the floor by the police when they break open the door.

So the story have to match the fact and supported by evidence here. Discrepancy are as follow.

1.) Police will not normally go break down anyone door at random, Police was (and should be) called to the address for a reason.

2.) Liu's daughter claim Police shot Liu immediately after seeing Liu holding a pair of scissors, but she also said Police was able to knock down Liu almost immediately after they broke into the door.

3.) Why would anyone prepare fish with a pair of scissors? A knife may be, but I cannot seems to be able to find a way to prepare a fish with scissors?

Look at the case objectively, I would say some altercation happened with the police and Liu was shot in the process.
 
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Daughter: Still wondering why French police killed dad
By Zhang Rui

A daughter of a Chinese man shot dead by French police said at a press conference on Wednesday in Paris that her whole family is still in shock, sadness and confusion on why the cop opened fire on a loving father.


A man holds a Chinese flag during a protest in front of the police headquarters in the 19th arrondissement of Paris on March 28, 2017, following the death of a Chinese national during a police intervention on March 26. [Photo/VCG]

The adult daughter of 56-year-old Liu Shaoyao said they can never imagine something like this happening to them. "That day is a normal Sunday, and we, his children, are preparing for school the next day. I was preparing for my own graduate courses," she said at the press conference, while remaining anonymous.

"Our life was turned upside down on that night, and we can't go back to normal life anymore. We still don't know why the policemen had to kill my father. In our eyes, our father loved us very much and he was so loving. He cooked for us, tidied our rooms, but now we can never see him again," she remembered her father, trembling with tears.

She told reporters what happened that night from her own perspective. When the cops came at their door in the 19th arrondissement of Paris on Sunday night, her father was cooking dinner and she just heard a loud knocking.

"I was in my bedroom. Then I heard they began to bang on our door and then we heard someone we didn't know outside the door. By that time I was stricken with panic. My father was really trying to hold back the door and then the door opened all of a sudden. A shot was fired. All of this happened in just a few seconds. My father was already on the ground. It was just impossible for him to have any chance to attack the policemen," she said.

The daughter said she confronted the three policemen when she arrived at the scene, but they didn't talk to her and didn't reveal their police identities to her either. "There was a pair of scissors in my father's right hand, which was not intended for harming the cops. It was for cooking, and there was a cut-open fish in the kitchen."

But according to previous reports, police said Liu tried to attack an officer with the scissors and a member of the police team fired in response. They also said they were called to the building after receiving a call about a man armed with a knife, and burst into the home of Liu after hearing screams inside.

But the daughter denied there was screaming and didn't know who called the police, "Sometimes we speak loudly, someone may call the police because of the noise. But it should not be seen as a 'domestic dispute'."

Four of Liu's five children were in the apartment at the time, and the daughter said they were kept for two hours in the apartment for "protection" but away from their father's body.

Calvin Job, a lawyer for the family, said Liu "was not, as some media outlets suggested, someone undergoing psychiatric treatment, and he wasn't an alcoholic; there was no history of family violence."

"There was nothing to hide. He did throw a TV set out of the window because his children were obsessed with TV programs in 2012, that's why he got arrested for several days and had a record," the attorney explained, "But the police soon realized he was just a normal man with a temper. Nothing happened after 2012, he can't have psychiatric problems."

François Ormillien, another lawyer for the Liu family, said the investigation is underway. Now the incident triggers two investigations: one from the Paris prosecution of a supposed attempted homicide directed against a police officer, and the second from the General Inspectorate of the National Police (IGPN), on the use of a firearm by a police officer. IGPN has already had hearings with the deceased's family on Tuesday while a prosecutor will meet the family soon. An investigative report will come out in weeks.

The lawyer said the family will file lawsuits on their own based on their knowledge and evidence if the case ends up being defined as policemen's act of "self-defense." "Liu has no judicial record and no violent history, so it confused us that the policemen's behavior in the incident: They were not dealing with a violent habitual offender by just breaking down the door and firing a shot."

But Ormillien appealed for calm in the various parties on behalf of Liu's family, "We want the answer now but we are not spokesmen for Asian immigrants in France. The victim’s family should be protected, instead of being pushed forward in media controversy or political movements."

Hundreds of Chinese and Asian protesters gathered for three consecutive nights since Monday to demand justice from French authorities. But every night turned into riots at the end of the vigils as policemen and some protesters clashed.

Paris police Chief Michel Cadot said on Tuesday that the three policemen involved in the shooting had been suspended for further investigation and the local Chinese community will be allowed to hold legal memorial activities.

Earlier on Tuesday, the Chinese Foreign Ministry called on the French government to ascertain the truth as quickly as possible and to effectively protect the safety and legitimate rights and interests of Chinese citizens residing in France.

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People gather during a protest in front of the police headquarters in the 19th arrondissement of Paris on March 28, 2017, following the death of a Chinese national during a police intervention on March 26. [Photo/VCG]
 
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