700,000 Indian Soldiers Versus 10 Million Kashmiris

[N.Siddiqui]

India should at least listen to their founding fathers. Lives in constant denial about Kashmir being a disputed territory and annexed illegally.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Both figures are wrong Haq chacha.

Soldiers are not 700,000.

Kashmiris are 7 million not 10 million. Check the census. Total J & K population =12.5 million. Kashmir Valley = 7 million.

 

[itachii]

And the more minor rebellions in Lucknow and Hyderabad:

Oh yeah.. why dont you teach a hyderabadi abt rebellion in hyderabad ?

 

[haviZsultan]

Oh yeah.. why dont you teach a hyderabadi abt rebellion in hyderabad ?

After you tell us how operation polo reduced hyderabad's muslim population from 60%+ to 40% if it was not ethnic cleansing of Muslims by your RSS and gang.

 

[Indiran Chandiran]

After you tell us how operation polo reduced hyderabad's muslim population from 60%+ to 40% if it was not ethnic cleansing of Muslims by your RSS and gang.

After Pakistan's population of Hindus & Sikhs were reduced to 1-2% from 20-30% in 1947-48.

 

[haviZsultan]

After Pakistan's population of Hindus & Sikhs were reduced to 1-2% from 20-30% in 1947-48.

All hindus had not moved by 47. Then there was a break up of Bengal where most hindus were. It wasn't genocide.

 

[Indiran Chandiran]

All hindus had not moved by 47. Then there was a break up of Bengal where most hindus were. It wasn't genocide.

I was referring solely to the erstwhile West Pakistan in my post above .But by & large the population of non Hindus in either parts of Pakistan was between 20-30% respectively .Except the population of non Hindus came down to 1-2% in what was then West Pakistan & between 15-17% in what was then East Pakistan .It has shrunk to 8% now whereas in your neck of the woods it's hovering around 2.5% now .A modest increase .

 

[punit]

what is?
IA active strength is at 1.25million

http://pib.nic.in/newsite/erelease.aspx?relid=(Release ID :148814)

the fig is as per the resident PDF experts !!

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

All hindus had not moved by 47. Then there was a break up of Bengal where most hindus were. It wasn't genocide.

Both Pakistanis and Indians engaged in ethnic cleansing.

 

[MilSpec]

India should at least listen to their founding fathers. Lives in constant denial about Kashmir being a disputed territory and annexed illegally.

For the umpteenth time. read:

https://defence.pk/threads/kashmir-plebiscite-and-un-security-council-resolution.215581/

 

[RiazHaq]

#Pakistan will hit back: #Musharraf warns #India | SAMAA TV #Uri #Kashmir

http://www.samaa.tv/pakistan/2016/09/pakistan-will-hit-back-musharraf-warns-india/


#Pakistan will hit back: #Musharraf warns #India | SAMAA TV #Uri #Kashmir

http://www.samaa.tv/pakistan/2016/09/pakistan-will-hit-back-musharraf-warns-india/

Former President General (retd) Pervez Musharraf has warned India that Pakistan will carry out a counter strike if New Delhi resorted to any military action against Islamabad in current circumstances of tension following militant attack in Occupied Kashmir, Samaa reported.

The former military ruler, in an interview with Indian channel CNN-News18, said Pakistan Islamabad will strike at "a time and place of its choosing" if India waged war.

“The persons who are talking about military retaliation - including your DGMO, your defence minister - should understand the consequences. The DGMO should learn a lesson of military that you have to wargame it till the end.”

“If think you can strike at the time and place of your choosing, we will strike back at the time and place of our choosing. It doesn't stop at your action; what will follow should also be considered,” he said in the interview from his residence in London.

About the attack on Indian army headquarters in Uri, where 19 Indian soldiers were killed, he said there are not credible evidences to say that the attackers came from Pakistan.

“The Indian government is trying to say as if the Pakistan army and the Pakistan government is involved,” he said.

He said India is directly interfering in Balochistan that is a serious matter. He also condemned New Delhi’s decision to give political asylum to Baloch rebel leader Brahmdagh Bugti, who is currently living in Switzerland.

“I totally condemn it, he shouldn’t be given any asylum. He’s a terrorist. You call of non-state actors in Kashmir, here in Balochistan it is state actor from your side, this is your state which is acting in Balochistan, which is more serious,” Musharraf said.

Brahamdagh Bugti approached the Permanent Mission of India in Geneva for filing asylum papers on Tuesday. - Samaa

 

[Zibago]

I was referring solely to the erstwhile West Pakistan in my post above .But by & large the population of non Hindus in either parts of Pakistan was between 20-30% respectively .Except the population of non Hindus came down to 1-2% in what was then West Pakistan & between 15-17% in what was then East Pakistan .It has shrunk to 8% now whereas in your neck of the woods it's hovering around 2.5% now .A modest increase .

Same figure as of 1951 because of the partitioning of Punjab

 

[RiazHaq]

WikiLeaks: #India 'systematically torturing civilians in #Kashmir' | via @Telegraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...matically-torturing-civilians-in-Kashmir.html

The US officials in Delhi were privately briefed by the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) in 2005 that Indian security forces were using methods including electrocution, physical beatings and sexual interference against hundreds of detainees.
In a detailed report back to Washington they recorded the view of the ICRC that India “condones torture” and that the detainees were not Islamist insurgents or Pakistani-backed militants, who were “routinely killed.” Instead, they were civilians “connected to or believed to have information about the insurgency.”
According to the cables, which will prove a major embarrassment for the Indian government, the ICRC interviewed 1,296 detainees of whom 681 said they had been tortured.
Of those, 498 claimed to have been electrocuted, 381 said they were suspended from the ceiling, and 304 cases were described as “sexual.”
A total of 294 described a procedure in which guards crushed their legs by putting a bar across their thighs and sitting on it, while 181 said their legs had been pulled apart into the splits.

In one cable US officials reported that “terrorism investigations and court cases tend to rely upon confessions, many of which are obtained under duress if not beatings, threats, or in some cases torture.”
Other leaked cables from US officials in India revealed that the Dalai Lama believed environmental problems on the Tibetan plateau should take precedence over a political solution there for the next five to 10 years.
The exiled Buddhist spiritual leader told US diplomats that issues such as polluted water from mining, deforestation and melting glaciers “cannot wait.”
US officials also suggested to Washington that India be encouraged to send Bollywood stars to Afghanistan to help pacify the country.
A cable, obtained by the WikiLeaks website, said “We understand Bollywood movies are wildly popular in Afghanistan” but the plan never materialised.”

 

[RiazHaq]

A Full-Blown Guerilla War Is Developing In #Kashmir that #Army Can Not Fight: Ex #India Justice Markandey Katju: http://www.outlookindia.com/website...-developing-in-kashmir-markandey-katju/297242

I think the people of India, the government of India, and the Indian army must now be told the truth: a full-blown guerilla war, still in its nascent stage , is fast developing in Kashmir, and we are being misled by our jingoistic media having anchors whom I call Don Quixote, Lord Haw Haw, and Dr. Goebbels.
The truth is most of the Kashmiri youth have been thoroughly alienated, and are intensely hostile to India.

A guerilla war, to be succesful, must have popular support. "The people are the sea, and we are the fish who swim in them." said a famous Red Army leader in the Chinese revolutionary war. Without popular support, a guerilla war cannot be long sustained, as Che Guevara realized too late in Bolivia.
But there is definitely popular support of the militants in Kashmir. We canot hide this truth. It is true that not all Kashmiri youth are trained and armed militants (at present only a very small number are). But the sympathies of most of the Kashmiri youth are with the militants, and they will therefore supply information, sanctuary, food, etc to them. The large crowd of lakhs of people in Burhan Wani's funeral has demonstrated this.
To say that all the militants have come across the border is again not correct. A large section of them, like Burhan Wani, are local people, though they are getting weapons from China and Pakistan.
The Kashmiri guerilla war, though still in its nascent stage, is bound to develop rapidly in the days to come, and I may explain why.


I have many relatives who were in the Indian army, and who were posted in Kashmir or in the North-East where there was militancy. They explained to me the psychology of our soldiers.
Suppose a patrol of 10 or 20 of our soldiers is going in some area in Kashmir, and is fired upon by some militants. If in this firing 2 or 3 of our soldiers are killed, the rest of them tend to go crazy, seeking revenge for their fallen comrades.
They may then enter a neighbouring village, thinking it harboured these militants ( and may indeed have), and shoot at innocent civilians, despite all instructions to the contrary from higher authorities.. Sometimes even their officers cannot control them.
Also, a soldier who has stayed in militancy-affected areas for long periods, as many Indian soldiers have to do, is often no longer psychologically normal, expecting death at any moment. Hence he sometimes tends to do crazy things, like firing at civilians.
The American experience in Vietnam testifies to this.

 

[SarthakGanguly]