57% of allopathic doctors in India have no medical qualifications: WHO

[thesolar65]

BTW Every Indian is a Doctor!!

 

[Delnavaz B]

BTW Every Indian is a Doctor!!

Yes Doctor of Philosophy or at least Doctor of Bollywood movies and stars personal lives.

 

[Nilgiri]

If Indian members thinking i posted just to make fun of India Sir this was not the case at all even in Pakistan situation is far more worst than India.

nearly 60 to 70% people / patients get treatment from quakes who never visited any local or foreign even fake university.

Since you have maturely admitted Pakistan is worse, I will refrain from the stone + glass house comment (given Pakistan life expectancy and overall worse health statistics published by the same WHO). The competency of even the registered health workers in Pakistan is quite terrible overall:

https://www.researchgate.net/public...akistan_An_Assessment_of_their_training_needs

It is probably one dimension of why Pakistan's infant mortality rate is shockingly bad (even Afghanistan has caught up and will likely surpass Pakistan in this metric soon).

Coming to this report by the WHO:

It might interest some to read the actual report and realise that the study concerned the situation in 2001 (using census data), that a similar study for 2011 will be released later (to check improvement if any) and that the PMO internally knew of the situation for some years now (and grandfathered to current PMO which is much more capable in implementation).

http://www.who.int/hrh/resources/16058health_workforce_India.pdf?ua=1

The main thing is the number we are quoting when mentioning "57%" is not registered doctors but simply a self declaration in the 2001 census when profession is called.

This of course has led to quite a large number of people claiming to be doctors when they are not (whereas medical qualifications statistics can easily be compiled with institution data etc.) A census always takes the information to be prima facie honest and also carries no personal ID for privacy purposes.

This leads to the discrepancy as to the impression of members like @nair

The total number of medically qualified people in India in 2001 according to the data was around 482,000 (check page 20).

Population in 2001 was 1028.7 million people (according to same census).

That gives a rough doctor per capita ratio of 1: 2134 or roughly 0.47 per 1000 people (which compares quite well with the World Bank and UN data).

So the international statistics never went by the census data where anyone can list their profession without proper verification....but rather the actual number of registered and qualified doctors graduating from certified and accredited institutes.

The subject of the demand and supply mismatch of qualified medical personnel in India is of course a whole different topic.

You might want to read up on some of the issues/developments here:

http://thewire.in/9427/medical-colleges-mci-mbbs/

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-pm-modi-to-add-10000-more-mbbs-seats-across-india-2173823

 

[farhan_9909]

The situation is even worse in Pakistan.

One of the factor is doctors not willing to practice in periphery.So in KPK the govt has increased the salaries for doctors working in BHU and divided the cities between zones.

 

[Nilgiri]

The total number of registered allopathic doctors in India as of December 31, 2014 was: 936,488

http://www.indiamedicaltimes.com/2015/03/13/india-has-9-36-lakh-doctors-of-modern-medicine/

This is an increase of about 35,000 registered/qualified doctors per year from 2001.

Why India international students in China, their graduation certificate is not recognized by the India? They almost all study medicine,

What are you talking about? MCI publishes quite often which universities in China are accredited for Indian standards:

http://mbbs.cucas.edu.cn/blog/2012-01-07/1325929403d2688.shtml

Thus these degrees are accepted and recognised in India....thats why many Indian students go to China for medical studies in the first place.

Also read:

http://www.indianembassy.org.cn/DynamicContent.aspx?MenuId=82&SubMenuId=0

China has a level of supply in Medical Education that India cannot match in the short term (capacity addition is progressing steadily now but will take time). In the mean time the demand must be addressed so it is only natural that Indians go to China for accredited medical education at lower cost than can be found in India.

Allopathic medicine is not even real medicine.

You are confusing the terms or are you a proponent of homeopathic style treatments (or something else altogether)?

 

[SBUS-CXK]

The total number of registered allopathic doctors in India as of December 31, 2014 was: 936,488

http://www.indiamedicaltimes.com/2015/03/13/india-has-9-36-lakh-doctors-of-modern-medicine/

This is an increase of about 35,000 registered/qualified doctors per year from 2001.



What are you talking about? MCI publishes quite often which universities in China are accredited for Indian standards:

http://mbbs.cucas.edu.cn/blog/2012-01-07/1325929403d2688.shtml

Thus these degrees are accepted and recognised in India....thats why many Indian students go to China for medical studies in the first place.

Also read:

http://www.indianembassy.org.cn/DynamicContent.aspx?MenuId=82&SubMenuId=0

China has a level of supply in Medical Education that India cannot match in the short term (capacity addition is progressing steadily now but will take time). In the mean time the demand must be addressed so it is only natural that Indians go to China for accredited medical education at lower cost than can be found in India.



You are confusing the terms or are you a proponent of homeopathic style treatments (or something else altogether)?

About me: "China 's medical license in India is not approved", is an Indian told me,

I'm sorry, I didn't go to check.

 

[Nilgiri]

About me: "China 's medical license in India is not approved", is an Indian told me,

I'm sorry, I didn't go to check.

I don't know about licenses (whatever that even means)....but the degrees are accredited and accepted 100% as long as they are on the list of universities given by MCI.

There are of course some scams and fake degrees that lure some number of students each year but its no more than any other country....and its bound to happen because of the good pricing in China for medical education.

Think yourself why would so many Indians be going to China for medical study if they cannot use the degree in India?

 

[Russell]

Allopathic medicine is not even real medicine.

What now? Someone needs to look up the definition of

allopathy & homeopathy!

also fellas...not wanting to turn this into a bitchfest but 'quacks' not 'quakes'.

I don't doubt the statistics - I'm sure the figures are pretty much standard for a lot of the overpopulated developing world. In some parts of rural Bangladesh - people that own pharmacies also see fit to prescribe medicine

 

[Jlaw]

New Delhi: In a shocking revelation, the World Health Organisation (WHO), in its recent report, has revealed that more than half of Indian doctors are not medically qualified.
The report titled 'Health Workforce in India' claimed that around 31% of those who claimed to be allopathic doctors in 2001, had studied till secondary school level, whereas some 57% did not have any medical qualifications, the Hindu reported.
The WHO report also revealed that in rural India, only 18% of the allopathic doctors had a medical qualification.

The study based on the data collected from all districts during the 2001 census also showed that 60% of Ayurvedic doctors and 46% of Unani doctors had medical qualifications. Whereas, only 42% of homepathy practioners were found to be medically qualified.

The report also revealed that only 42.3% of denists in India had a medical degree.

The WHO report also found that women workforce in health sector was better educated than their male counterparts, with 67% of females having a medical qualification compared to 38% of males.

Sounding an alarm on India's already dismal doctor-patient ratio, the WHO report reduces the figure from 80 doctors/lakh population to 36 doctors/lakh population.


First Published: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 - 12:31
http://zeenews.india.com/health/57-...ia-have-no-medical-qualifications-who-1908998

Holy Shit! Than again I'm not surprised. Similar situation in Canada where ten years ago taxi drivers were claiming most had MBA and Phd in India and now driving a taxi for a living. Later on they found out most of the taxi drivers were lying or just paid for the certificate.

Allopathic medicine is not even real medicine.

Nice try but you're full of shit

 

[ashok321]

 

[Nilgiri]

View attachment 319496

The 2014 figure for India is now 0.8.

 

[ashok321]

The 2014 figure for India is now 0.8.

http://gamapserver.who.int/gho/inte..._workforce/PhysiciansDensity_Total/atlas.html

Interactive map:

India 2015 = .702

WHO

 

[Nilgiri]

http://gamapserver.who.int/gho/inte..._workforce/PhysiciansDensity_Total/atlas.html

Interactive map:

India 2015 = .702

WHO

Cant you read, it clearly says latest available year and for the figure given for India the year is 2012.

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

My Fracture was healed in 7 days by an old man through desi means .

My Fracture failed to heal even after a month , when I consulted a Top doctor .

I don't trust Doctors these days , They just prescribe Medicines Medicines Medicines Medicines

 

[ashok321]

Cant you read, it clearly says latest available year and for the figure given for India the year is 2012.