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The 'petrous bone' is an inelegant but useful chunk of the human skull -- basically it protects your inner ear. But that's not all it protects. In recent years, genetic scientists working to extract DNA from ancient skeletons have discovered that, thanks to the extreme density of a particular region of the petrous bone (the bit shielding the cochlea, since you ask), they could sometimes harvest 100 times more DNA from it than from any other remaining tissue.

Now this somewhat macabre innovation may well resolve one of the most heated debates about the history of India.

As the dust of the petrous bones of a 4,500-year-old skeleton from Rakhigarhi, Haryana, settles, we may have the answer to a few questions that have vexed some of the best minds in history and science -- and a lot of politicians along the way:

Q: Were the people of the Harappan civilisation the original source of the Sanskritic language and culture of Vedic Hinduism? A: No.

Q: Do their genes survive as a significant component in India's current population? A: Most definitely.

Q: Were they closer to popular perceptions of 'Aryans' or of 'Dravidians'? A: Dravidians.

Q: Were they more akin to the South Indians or North Indians of today? A: South Indians.

All loaded questions, of course. A paper suggesting these conclusions is likely to be online in September and later published in the journal Science.

These revelations are part of the long-awaited and much-postponed results of an excavation conducted in 2015 by a team led by Dr Vasant Shinde, an archaeologist and vice chancellor of Pune's Deccan College.

he archaeologist was referring to the fact that any research dealing with the Harappan civilisation would have to confront the Hindutva agenda of the government of India -- whose politics demands a genuflection to Vedic Hinduism as the origin of Indian civilisation.

For historians or anyone working on the Harappan or Indus Valley Civilisation, this is a complication. Indeed, when the Indus Valley Civilisation was first 'discovered' in the 1920s, colonial archaeologists quickly identified it as evidence of a pre-Vedic culture, which, they theorised, had been utterly destroyed by the advent of 'Aryan' invaders from the Northwest who represented the dawn of Hindu India.

In later years, most mainstream historians have discarded the 'Aryan invasion theory' or 'AIT' as an oversimplification -- while retaining a chronology that places the Vedic civilisation as a successor to the Indus Valley Civilisation.

And the Aryan invasion theory continues to rankle Hindutva nationalists even as it has taken root in South India as the core narrative of a popular politics which sees the Indus Valley Civilisation as a Dravidian culture that has survived 'Brahminical' invaders only south of the Vindhyas.

GREAT EXPECTATIONS

Meanwhile, the reality of who the Indus Valley Civilisation people were has remained a mystery. Shinde knows all too well the incongruous burden of expectations that has now settled on a 4,500-year-old resident (classified as 'I4411') of Rakhigarhi, a ramshackle village in the dusty khadar or floodplain of an almost extinguished river.

You may know of Rakhigarhi too: over the last decade-and-a-half, the name has become a staple of school textbooks, tourism pamphlets and journalism-invoked as the largest Harappan/Indus Valley site in India. In fact, since 2014, it has been regularly cited as 'even larger than Mohenjo-Daro' -- the archaeological site in Sindh, Pakistan, first excavated in the 1920s.

Despite the element of hyperbole, excavations here -- conducted intermittently since the late 1960s -- have established its significance as an extensive and enduring urban settlement with its beginnings arguably as early as the 7th millennium BCE.

Most importantly, the village with its seven teelas or mounds has produced enough evidence to identify it as the site of a 'mature' Harappan settlement of the 2nd and 3rd millennium BCE. In other words, a town that witnessed the rise and -- more than 4,000 years ago -- the mysterious fall, of India's first urban civilisation.
On the face of it, the single most startling revelation of the Rakhigarhi research may be what it doesn't talk about: the complete absence of any reference to the genetic marker R1a1 in the ancient DNA retrieved from the site.

This is significant because R1a1, often loosely called 'the 'Aryan gene', is now understood to have originated in a population of Bronze Age pastoralists who dispersed from a homeland in the Central Asian 'Pontic steppe' (the grasslands sprawling between the Black Sea and the Caspian) some 4,000 years ago. The genetic impact of their migrations has left a particularly strong and 'sex-biased', (i.e. male-driven) imprint on the populations of two geographically distant but linguistically related parts of the world: Northern India and Northern Europe.

"We are not discussing R1a," says Niraj Rai, the lead genetic researcher on the Rakhigarhi DNA project. "R1a is not there." The admission came wrapped in some prevarication but was all the more telling given that the Rakhigarhi data presented in this paper are derived primarily from the genetic material of 'I4411', a male individual -- R1a is a mutation seen only in samples of the male Y chromosome.

The absence of this genetic imprint in the first genome sample of an individual from the Indus Valley culture will bolster what is already a consensus among genetic scientists, historians and philologists: that the Indus Valley culture preceded and was distinct from this population of cattle-herding, horse-rearing, chariot-driving, battle-axe-wielding, proto-Sanskrit-speaking migrants whose ancestry is most evident in high-caste North Indian communities today.



Rai points out that the fact that haplogroup R1a did not show up in the Rakhigarhi sample could be attributed to the limited amount of genetic data retrieved. Or it could be because it's just not there. "We do not have much coverage of the Y chromosome regions [of the genome]," Rai says, revealing that they had retrieved more data from the mitochondrial and autosomal DNA in their sample (mitochondrial DNA reflects maternal descent and autosomal tests reveal genetic information inherited from both parents).

However, he was emphatic in acknowledging that while "a mass movement of Central Asians happened and significantly changed the South Asian genetic make-up", the inhabitants of ancient Rakhigarhi "do not have any affinity with the Central Asians". In other words, while the citizens of the Indus Valley Civilisation had none of this ancestry, you, dear average Indian reader, owe 17.5 per cent of your male lineage to people from the Steppe.

It's worth noting that this genetic footprint is of an entirely more impressive order than the relatively inconsequential biological legacy of Islamic or European colonial invasions that often preoccupy the political imagination in India.

So much for what we have now learned about who our 4,500-year-old ancestor 'I4411' was not. What about who he was? The short answer, says Rai, is that I4411 "has more affinity with South Indian tribal populations". Notably, the Irula in the Nilgiri highlands.

A draft of the paper argues that this individual could be modelled as part of a clade [a group sharing descent from a common ancestor] with the Irula but not with groups with higher proportions of West Eurasian related ancestry such as Punjabis, and goes on to suggest that the inhabitants of Rakhigarhi probably spoke an early Dravidian language.


However, the results also show clear evidence of mixing with another population from outside the subcontinent, labelled 'Iranian agriculturalist'. This is a population that had been identified in earlier studies of ancient DNA and is consistent with the hypothesis that some agricultural technologies were introduced to the subcontinent through contact with the 'fertile crescent' in West Asia, widely regarded as one of the birthplaces of Eurasian agriculture in the 5th-8th millennium BC.

For an older generation of Indians, the Rakhigarhi results may sound like a reboot of half-remembered schoolbooks: 'Dravidian' Harappans followed by Vedic horsemen from the Steppe. And for anyone who has been following more recent developments in population genetics too, the latest findings will sound familiar.

Meanwhile, in the popular press, coverage of recent discoveries in the archaeology or genetics of Harappan India has been obsessively and distractingly focused on the 'Aryan invasion theory'. What gives? And why does it matter? The answer has to do with the fact that recent years have been a very busy time in ancient Indian history. And modern Indian politics.

SKULDUGGERY

In the months preceding the news of the Rakhigarhi findings, anticipation was high, and fuelled by a series of related research papers and their journalistic glosses, an amusing if acrimonious debate erupted in the social media and the blogosphere. Shinde for his part was given to dropping broad hints that the Rakhigarhi results would point to a 'continuity' between the population of the ancient town and its present-day inhabitants (predominantly Jats, a population marked by pronounced R1a Steppe ancestry).

Perhaps it should be no surprise, in these fractious times, that fake news would be deployed as a weapon in the civil war that has consumed ancient Indian history. In January this year, a Hindi newspaper carried an article purportedly based on an interview with Rai, asserting that the Rakhigarhi DNA was, in fact, a close match for North Indian Brahmins and that the findings would establish that India was the 'native place' of the Indo-European language family.

"Utter crud!" was the reaction of David Wesolowski, host of the Eurogenes blog-well regarded by some of the world's leading geneticists as a go-to site for the latest debate. Wesolowski's site witnessed frequent arguments over the likelihood that Rakhigarhi DNA would turn up the R1a1 marker.

Here, extended and nuanced discussions of the finer points of molecular evidence would often conclude with kiss-offs along the lines of "you're an idiot" or "you're going to need psychiatric help when the results are out". In the event, Wesolowski's own prediction, "Expect no R1a in Harappa but a lot of ASI [Ancestral South Indian]", would prove to be spot on.
Behind the surly invective and the journalistic misdirection were rumours and whispers of a face-off between a rising tide of scientific evidence and the political pressures of nativist, Hindutva sentiments.

The saga of 'Hindutvist history' is by now another familiar tale, with its origins in early Hindu nationalist reaction to colonial archaeology and linguistics, a monomaniacal obsession with refuting the 'Aryan invasion theory'.

It is perhaps most clearly expressed in an irate passage from former RSS sarsanghchalak M.S. Golwalkar's screed Bunch of Thoughts (1966): "It was the wily foreigner, the Britisher, who carried on the insidious propaganda that we were never one nation, that we were never the children of the soil but mere upstarts having no better claim than the foreign hordes of Muslims or the British over this country."

In recent years, this resentful impulse has focused particularly intently on asserting the wishful conclusion that the Indus Valley Civilisation itself must be 'Vedic'. This has understandably gained traction in the popular imagination in tandem with the political rise of Hindutva. In 2013, Amish Tripathi, a bestselling author of 'Hinduistical fantasy' novels, gave vent to the keening desire for a 'Vedic IVC' in a short fiction in which future archaeologists discover clinching evidence "that the Indus Valley Civilisation and the Vedic-erroneously called Aryan-civilisation were one and the same." The story is poignantly titled, 'Science Validates Vedic History'.

Inevitably, the advent of a BJP majority government in the general elections of 2014 has given new energy -- and funding-to the self-gratifying urges of Hindutvist history.

CS-Rakhigarhi-Sep10-5_Mos_small-x322.jpg


The charge has been led by the Union minister for culture Mahesh Sharma, who has prioritised the project of 'rewriting Indian history', whether by appointing a pliant obscurantist as head of the Indian Council of Historical Research or promoting the 'research' of para-scientific outfits such as I-SERVE (Institute of Scientific Research on Vedas) and a former customs officer who uses hobby astronomy software to establish that "thus Shri Ram was born on 10th January in 5114 BC...around 12 to 1 noontime [in Ayodhya]".

In March this year a Reuters report revealed details of a meeting of a 'history committee' convened by Sharma at the office of the Director General of the Archaeological Survey of India in January 2017. Its task, according to the committee chairman K.N. Dixit, was "to present a report that will help the government rewrite certain aspects of ancient history".
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The 'petrous bone' is an inelegant but useful chunk of the human skull -- basically it protects your inner ear. But that's not all it protects. In recent years, genetic scientists working to extract DNA from ancient skeletons have discovered that, thanks to the extreme density of a particular region of the petrous bone (the bit shielding the cochlea, since you ask), they could sometimes harvest 100 times more DNA from it than from any other remaining tissue.

Now this somewhat macabre innovation may well resolve one of the most heated debates about the history of India.

As the dust of the petrous bones of a 4,500-year-old skeleton from Rakhigarhi, Haryana, settles, we may have the answer to a few questions that have vexed some of the best minds in history and science -- and a lot of politicians along the way:

Q: Were the people of the Harappan civilisation the original source of the Sanskritic language and culture of Vedic Hinduism? A: No.

Q: Do their genes survive as a significant component in India's current population? A: Most definitely.

Q: Were they closer to popular perceptions of 'Aryans' or of 'Dravidians'? A: Dravidians.

Q: Were they more akin to the South Indians or North Indians of today? A: South Indians.

All loaded questions, of course. A paper suggesting these conclusions is likely to be online in September and later published in the journal Science.

These revelations are part of the long-awaited and much-postponed results of an excavation conducted in 2015 by a team led by Dr Vasant Shinde, an archaeologist and vice chancellor of Pune's Deccan College.

he archaeologist was referring to the fact that any research dealing with the Harappan civilisation would have to confront the Hindutva agenda of the government of India -- whose politics demands a genuflection to Vedic Hinduism as the origin of Indian civilisation.

For historians or anyone working on the Harappan or Indus Valley Civilisation, this is a complication. Indeed, when the Indus Valley Civilisation was first 'discovered' in the 1920s, colonial archaeologists quickly identified it as evidence of a pre-Vedic culture, which, they theorised, had been utterly destroyed by the advent of 'Aryan' invaders from the Northwest who represented the dawn of Hindu India.

In later years, most mainstream historians have discarded the 'Aryan invasion theory' or 'AIT' as an oversimplification -- while retaining a chronology that places the Vedic civilisation as a successor to the Indus Valley Civilisation.

And the Aryan invasion theory continues to rankle Hindutva nationalists even as it has taken root in South India as the core narrative of a popular politics which sees the Indus Valley Civilisation as a Dravidian culture that has survived 'Brahminical' invaders only south of the Vindhyas.

GREAT EXPECTATIONS

Meanwhile, the reality of who the Indus Valley Civilisation people were has remained a mystery. Shinde knows all too well the incongruous burden of expectations that has now settled on a 4,500-year-old resident (classified as 'I4411') of Rakhigarhi, a ramshackle village in the dusty khadar or floodplain of an almost extinguished river.

You may know of Rakhigarhi too: over the last decade-and-a-half, the name has become a staple of school textbooks, tourism pamphlets and journalism-invoked as the largest Harappan/Indus Valley site in India. In fact, since 2014, it has been regularly cited as 'even larger than Mohenjo-Daro' -- the archaeological site in Sindh, Pakistan, first excavated in the 1920s.

Despite the element of hyperbole, excavations here -- conducted intermittently since the late 1960s -- have established its significance as an extensive and enduring urban settlement with its beginnings arguably as early as the 7th millennium BCE.

Most importantly, the village with its seven teelas or mounds has produced enough evidence to identify it as the site of a 'mature' Harappan settlement of the 2nd and 3rd millennium BCE. In other words, a town that witnessed the rise and -- more than 4,000 years ago -- the mysterious fall, of India's first urban civilisation.
On the face of it, the single most startling revelation of the Rakhigarhi research may be what it doesn't talk about: the complete absence of any reference to the genetic marker R1a1 in the ancient DNA retrieved from the site.

This is significant because R1a1, often loosely called 'the 'Aryan gene', is now understood to have originated in a population of Bronze Age pastoralists who dispersed from a homeland in the Central Asian 'Pontic steppe' (the grasslands sprawling between the Black Sea and the Caspian) some 4,000 years ago. The genetic impact of their migrations has left a particularly strong and 'sex-biased', (i.e. male-driven) imprint on the populations of two geographically distant but linguistically related parts of the world: Northern India and Northern Europe.

"We are not discussing R1a," says Niraj Rai, the lead genetic researcher on the Rakhigarhi DNA project. "R1a is not there." The admission came wrapped in some prevarication but was all the more telling given that the Rakhigarhi data presented in this paper are derived primarily from the genetic material of 'I4411', a male individual -- R1a is a mutation seen only in samples of the male Y chromosome.

The absence of this genetic imprint in the first genome sample of an individual from the Indus Valley culture will bolster what is already a consensus among genetic scientists, historians and philologists: that the Indus Valley culture preceded and was distinct from this population of cattle-herding, horse-rearing, chariot-driving, battle-axe-wielding, proto-Sanskrit-speaking migrants whose ancestry is most evident in high-caste North Indian communities today.



Rai points out that the fact that haplogroup R1a did not show up in the Rakhigarhi sample could be attributed to the limited amount of genetic data retrieved. Or it could be because it's just not there. "We do not have much coverage of the Y chromosome regions [of the genome]," Rai says, revealing that they had retrieved more data from the mitochondrial and autosomal DNA in their sample (mitochondrial DNA reflects maternal descent and autosomal tests reveal genetic information inherited from both parents).

However, he was emphatic in acknowledging that while "a mass movement of Central Asians happened and significantly changed the South Asian genetic make-up", the inhabitants of ancient Rakhigarhi "do not have any affinity with the Central Asians". In other words, while the citizens of the Indus Valley Civilisation had none of this ancestry, you, dear average Indian reader, owe 17.5 per cent of your male lineage to people from the Steppe.

It's worth noting that this genetic footprint is of an entirely more impressive order than the relatively inconsequential biological legacy of Islamic or European colonial invasions that often preoccupy the political imagination in India.

So much for what we have now learned about who our 4,500-year-old ancestor 'I4411' was not. What about who he was? The short answer, says Rai, is that I4411 "has more affinity with South Indian tribal populations". Notably, the Irula in the Nilgiri highlands.

A draft of the paper argues that this individual could be modelled as part of a clade [a group sharing descent from a common ancestor] with the Irula but not with groups with higher proportions of West Eurasian related ancestry such as Punjabis, and goes on to suggest that the inhabitants of Rakhigarhi probably spoke an early Dravidian language.


However, the results also show clear evidence of mixing with another population from outside the subcontinent, labelled 'Iranian agriculturalist'. This is a population that had been identified in earlier studies of ancient DNA and is consistent with the hypothesis that some agricultural technologies were introduced to the subcontinent through contact with the 'fertile crescent' in West Asia, widely regarded as one of the birthplaces of Eurasian agriculture in the 5th-8th millennium BC.

For an older generation of Indians, the Rakhigarhi results may sound like a reboot of half-remembered schoolbooks: 'Dravidian' Harappans followed by Vedic horsemen from the Steppe. And for anyone who has been following more recent developments in population genetics too, the latest findings will sound familiar.

Meanwhile, in the popular press, coverage of recent discoveries in the archaeology or genetics of Harappan India has been obsessively and distractingly focused on the 'Aryan invasion theory'. What gives? And why does it matter? The answer has to do with the fact that recent years have been a very busy time in ancient Indian history. And modern Indian politics.

SKULDUGGERY

In the months preceding the news of the Rakhigarhi findings, anticipation was high, and fuelled by a series of related research papers and their journalistic glosses, an amusing if acrimonious debate erupted in the social media and the blogosphere. Shinde for his part was given to dropping broad hints that the Rakhigarhi results would point to a 'continuity' between the population of the ancient town and its present-day inhabitants (predominantly Jats, a population marked by pronounced R1a Steppe ancestry).

Perhaps it should be no surprise, in these fractious times, that fake news would be deployed as a weapon in the civil war that has consumed ancient Indian history. In January this year, a Hindi newspaper carried an article purportedly based on an interview with Rai, asserting that the Rakhigarhi DNA was, in fact, a close match for North Indian Brahmins and that the findings would establish that India was the 'native place' of the Indo-European language family.

"Utter crud!" was the reaction of David Wesolowski, host of the Eurogenes blog-well regarded by some of the world's leading geneticists as a go-to site for the latest debate. Wesolowski's site witnessed frequent arguments over the likelihood that Rakhigarhi DNA would turn up the R1a1 marker.

Here, extended and nuanced discussions of the finer points of molecular evidence would often conclude with kiss-offs along the lines of "you're an idiot" or "you're going to need psychiatric help when the results are out". In the event, Wesolowski's own prediction, "Expect no R1a in Harappa but a lot of ASI [Ancestral South Indian]", would prove to be spot on.
Behind the surly invective and the journalistic misdirection were rumours and whispers of a face-off between a rising tide of scientific evidence and the political pressures of nativist, Hindutva sentiments.

The saga of 'Hindutvist history' is by now another familiar tale, with its origins in early Hindu nationalist reaction to colonial archaeology and linguistics, a monomaniacal obsession with refuting the 'Aryan invasion theory'.

It is perhaps most clearly expressed in an irate passage from former RSS sarsanghchalak M.S. Golwalkar's screed Bunch of Thoughts (1966): "It was the wily foreigner, the Britisher, who carried on the insidious propaganda that we were never one nation, that we were never the children of the soil but mere upstarts having no better claim than the foreign hordes of Muslims or the British over this country."

In recent years, this resentful impulse has focused particularly intently on asserting the wishful conclusion that the Indus Valley Civilisation itself must be 'Vedic'. This has understandably gained traction in the popular imagination in tandem with the political rise of Hindutva. In 2013, Amish Tripathi, a bestselling author of 'Hinduistical fantasy' novels, gave vent to the keening desire for a 'Vedic IVC' in a short fiction in which future archaeologists discover clinching evidence "that the Indus Valley Civilisation and the Vedic-erroneously called Aryan-civilisation were one and the same." The story is poignantly titled, 'Science Validates Vedic History'.

Inevitably, the advent of a BJP majority government in the general elections of 2014 has given new energy -- and funding-to the self-gratifying urges of Hindutvist history.

CS-Rakhigarhi-Sep10-5_Mos_small-x322.jpg


The charge has been led by the Union minister for culture Mahesh Sharma, who has prioritised the project of 'rewriting Indian history', whether by appointing a pliant obscurantist as head of the Indian Council of Historical Research or promoting the 'research' of para-scientific outfits such as I-SERVE (Institute of Scientific Research on Vedas) and a former customs officer who uses hobby astronomy software to establish that "thus Shri Ram was born on 10th January in 5114 BC...around 12 to 1 noontime [in Ayodhya]".

In March this year a Reuters report revealed details of a meeting of a 'history committee' convened by Sharma at the office of the Director General of the Archaeological Survey of India in January 2017. Its task, according to the committee chairman K.N. Dixit, was "to present a report that will help the government rewrite certain aspects of ancient history".
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Tamil was and is the language of spirit. A sectarian can’t device Indian integration. And

To your like or dislike I declare today

**** to Periyar.


Mere se baat karna
 
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Tamil was and is the language of spirit. A sectarian can’t device Indian integration. And

To your like or dislike I declare today

**** to Periyar.
you dont have to **** to Periyar , he has done that to the brahmanical vedic gods and you need to do more research on Tamil before you do the spirit talk ..

 
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you dont have to **** to Periyar , he has done that to the brahmanical vedic gods and you need to do more research on Tamil before you do the spirit talk ..

I’m a Brahmin myself.
If padnavaswamy is richest temple in the world today because we saved it from invasions. And that time there was no tamil no Hindu divides.

It only when imbeciles like you came up with the concept to suit your political motives bastardised.

You won’t survive a minute with me. For the record Pakistanis don’t do that with me and you dare not to.

I will drink you like a poison just like my lord Shiva did.
 
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I’m a Brahmin myself.
If padnavaswamy is richest temple in the world today because we saved it from invasions. And that time there was no tamil no Hindu divides.

It only when imbeciles like you came up with the concept to suit your political motives bastardised.
You won’t survive a minute with me. For the record Pakistanis don’t do that with me and you dare not to.

I will drink you like a poison just like my lord Shiva did.

Is it Padmanabhaswamy or padnavaswamy ?

As I said earlier, do your home work before you dare confront me.

Periyar was the product of aryan-brahmin tyranny .. not one but 1000s of Periyars will be born .. he had laid the foundation - Dravidianism ... whether you drink poison or gau mutra, its not my problem
 
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@Dash @manlion

Please refrain from commenting on individual biases. It will lead to wrong conclusions. Go with the evidence that was extracted and match it with what is known and understood. Sometimes we have to forego with our prejudiced fabrications to come to truth.
 
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**** to Periyar.

I’m a Brahmin myself.


Makes sense. :tup:

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Anyways, just to summarize the OP:

- Rakhigarhi DNA has no contribution from ancient IE speaking Steppe/Central Asian people.

- High caste Hindus of present day have a lot of these Steppe/Central Asian genes.


It's not too hard to understand what that means.
 
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It was obvious from the beginning. Did you really think that low iq Punjabis and North Indians would be descendants of harrapans? Hahah
@SorryNotSorry You better apologizing for mocking South Indians
 
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Makes sense. :tup:

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Anyways, just to summarize the OP:

- Rakhigarhi DNA has no contribution from ancient IE speaking Steppe/Central Asian people.

- High caste Hindus of present day have a lot of these Steppe/Central Asian genes.


It's not too hard to understand what that means.

It could mean that we are all related to the original natives of Indus who were pushed south or interior and Steppe contribution to admixture and gene pool of northern India happened much later.
It is possible that the Vedic period happened when Steppe came in contact with the natives sometime at fag end of the IVC and it is possible that they introduced Sanskrit language to the natives.
 
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The author most probably belong to Lutyens.

These dogs do not understand the term Aryan completely. He has concluded his findings even before his description and presentation of facts.
All his findings are attributed to one finding that there are no R1A1 genes in the excavated DNA.
The question here is why the gene R1A1 is attributed to Aryans?
there is no answer. If there are no evidence about the Aryan DNA how can these British dogs and Bartenders attribute this gene to Aryans. These guys base their facts on a Theory called AIT which has no proofs.

There are several unanswered questions of the history which colonials have proposed.

1) Where is the Aryan Home land(clearly Aryavartha was described in Mahabharata, Ramayana, Vedas as India)?
2) Why there is no trace of sanskrit in Central Asia, nor any literature there?
(All we see is some sanskritized words in their languages because of trade and cultural relations with India)
3) what is the mother language of saskrit?
4) what is the gene pool of Aryans?


Aryans in Vedas means Civilised, Not a Race.

There is no evidence that there are large scale migrations from central Asia. People From Central Asia, Afghanistan and Persia came here and mixed with the culture in this land in small groups because of various reasons like famine, resources,good whether and in search of opportunities.

A complete nonsense from the India Today group.

Contrary to that the Srijan foundation scholors has shown enough proofs related astronomical, climatic and geographical conclusions to prove that there is a continuous civilization that existed for atleast 17000 years in India.

A kindergaten kid can argue much better than the author in the article. What these guys want is eye catching headlines, below that every thing they write is total non sense. The Vatican mafia dogs , colonial bartenders and retards are out in the open to further their agenda. This time India is awake and observing the mischief of the anti Hindu idiots.

In Epics like Ramayan and Mahabharat some of the people described as Aryans have features of Dravidians.

Conclusion: The time line proposed by the colonials is a suspect.

Even if we take the accounts of excavations, a one feet deep difference in the excavated land can lead the researchers thousand years apart.

Regarding the script, below are the observations
Example
Easter Island script:
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Indus valley script:
induscript.jpg


Egyptian script:
hieratic_alpha.gif


Sumerian script:
su_signs.gif

There is one commonality in these scripts, all of them depicts living things, primitive tools and animals.

These scripts date back to 10's of thousands of years, these people at that time interacted with each other and they know earth is a globe and have good knowledge of navigation and maps with them when they travelled on seas and oceans.
there is new evidence that shows that pyramids dates back to the time before great flood. Easter Island statues dated back to 10000 years.

what we are reading is colonial history which denies the right to one's own civilisation.

Regarding the facial recognition he has done in the article, this is laughable. The facial features do match with the current population in sindh the population is a ,mix of genes . what is the concrete evidence that the statue is a priest king?

India is a melting pot and there are people with all types in higher as well as lower positions of the society.

Last but not the least, the idiot wrote
According to one US-based researcher, who prefers to remain anonymous, "It was common knowledge through the grapevine that the Harvard team became impatient and eventually pushed to release their preprint before Indian colleagues were totally comfortable. Some samples [read 'Rakhigarhi'] were removed because of disagreements between collaborators."

The 'petrous bone' is an legant but useful chunk of the human skull -- basically it protects your inner ear. But that's not all it protects. In recent years, genetic scientists working to extract DNA from ancient skeletons have discovered that, thanks to the extreme density of a particular region of the petrous bone (the bit shielding the cochlea, since you ask), they could sometimes harvest 100 times more DNA from it than from any other remaining tissue.

Now this somewhat macabre innovation may well resolve one of the most heated debates about the history of India.

As the dust of the petrous bones of a 4,500-year-old skeleton from Rakhigarhi, Haryana, settles, we may have the answer to a few questions that have vexed some of the best minds in history and science -- and a lot of politicians along the way:

Q: Were the people of the Harappan civilisation the original source of the Sanskritic language and culture of Vedic Hinduism? A: No.

Q: Do their genes survive as a significant component in India's current population? A: Most definitely.

Q: Were they closer to popular perceptions of 'Aryans' or of 'Dravidians'? A: Dravidians.

Q: Were they more akin to the South Indians or North Indians of today? A: South Indians.

All loaded questions, of course. A paper suggesting these conclusions is likely to be online in September and later published in the journal Science.

These revelations are part of the long-awaited and much-postponed results of an excavation conducted in 2015 by a team led by Dr Vasant Shinde, an archaeologist and vice chancellor of Pune's Deccan College.

he archaeologist was referring to the fact that any research dealing with the Harappan civilisation would have to confront the Hindutva agenda of the government of India -- whose politics demands a genuflection to Vedic Hinduism as the origin of Indian civilisation.

For historians or anyone working on the Harappan or Indus Valley Civilisation, this is a complication. Indeed, when the Indus Valley Civilisation was first 'discovered' in the 1920s, colonial archaeologists quickly identified it as evidence of a pre-Vedic culture, which, they theorised, had been utterly destroyed by the advent of 'Aryan' invaders from the Northwest who represented the dawn of Hindu India.

In later years, most mainstream historians have discarded the 'Aryan invasion theory' or 'AIT' as an oversimplification -- while retaining a chronology that places the Vedic civilisation as a successor to the Indus Valley Civilisation.

And the Aryan invasion theory continues to rankle Hindutva nationalists even as it has taken root in South India as the core narrative of a popular politics which sees the Indus Valley Civilisation as a Dravidian culture that has survived 'Brahminical' invaders only south of the Vindhyas.

GREAT EXPECTATIONS

Meanwhile, the reality of who the Indus Valley Civilisation people were has remained a mystery. Shinde knows all too well the incongruous burden of expectations that has now settled on a 4,500-year-old resident (classified as 'I4411') of Rakhigarhi, a ramshackle village in the dusty khadar or floodplain of an almost extinguished river.

You may know of Rakhigarhi too: over the last decade-and-a-half, the name has become a staple of school textbooks, tourism pamphlets and journalism-invoked as the largest Harappan/Indus Valley site in India. In fact, since 2014, it has been regularly cited as 'even larger than Mohenjo-Daro' -- the archaeological site in Sindh, Pakistan, first excavated in the 1920s.

Despite the element of hyperbole, excavations here -- conducted intermittently since the late 1960s -- have established its significance as an extensive and enduring urban settlement with its beginnings arguably as early as the 7th millennium BCE.

Most importantly, the village with its seven teelas or mounds has produced enough evidence to identify it as the site of a 'mature' Harappan settlement of the 2nd and 3rd millennium BCE. In other words, a town that witnessed the rise and -- more than 4,000 years ago -- the mysterious fall, of India's first urban civilisation.
On the face of it, the single most startling revelation of the Rakhigarhi research may be what it doesn't talk about: the complete absence of any reference to the genetic marker R1a1 in the ancient DNA retrieved from the site.

This is significant because R1a1, often loosely called 'the 'Aryan gene', is now understood to have originated in a population of Bronze Age pastoralists who dispersed from a homeland in the Central Asian 'Pontic steppe' (the grasslands sprawling between the Black Sea and the Caspian) some 4,000 years ago. The genetic impact of their migrations has left a particularly strong and 'sex-biased', (i.e. male-driven) imprint on the populations of two geographically distant but linguistically related parts of the world: Northern India and Northern Europe.

"We are not discussing R1a," says Niraj Rai, the lead genetic researcher on the Rakhigarhi DNA project. "R1a is not there." The admission came wrapped in some prevarication but was all the more telling given that the Rakhigarhi data presented in this paper are derived primarily from the genetic material of 'I4411', a male individual -- R1a is a mutation seen only in samples of the male Y chromosome.

The absence of this genetic imprint in the first genome sample of an individual from the Indus Valley culture will bolster what is already a consensus among genetic scientists, historians and philologists: that the Indus Valley culture preceded and was distinct from this population of cattle-herding, horse-rearing, chariot-driving, battle-axe-wielding, proto-Sanskrit-speaking migrants whose ancestry is most evident in high-caste North Indian communities today.



Rai points out that the fact that haplogroup R1a did not show up in the Rakhigarhi sample could be attributed to the limited amount of genetic data retrieved. Or it could be because it's just not there. "We do not have much coverage of the Y chromosome regions [of the genome]," Rai says, revealing that they had retrieved more data from the mitochondrial and autosomal DNA in their sample (mitochondrial DNA reflects maternal descent and autosomal tests reveal genetic information inherited from both parents).

However, he was emphatic in acknowledging that while "a mass movement of Central Asians happened and significantly changed the South Asian genetic make-up", the inhabitants of ancient Rakhigarhi "do not have any affinity with the Central Asians". In other words, while the citizens of the Indus Valley Civilisation had none of this ancestry, you, dear average Indian reader, owe 17.5 per cent of your male lineage to people from the Steppe.

It's worth noting that this genetic footprint is of an entirely more impressive order than the relatively inconsequential biological legacy of Islamic or European colonial invasions that often preoccupy the political imagination in India.

So much for what we have now learned about who our 4,500-year-old ancestor 'I4411' was not. What about who he was? The short answer, says Rai, is that I4411 "has more affinity with South Indian tribal populations". Notably, the Irula in the Nilgiri highlands.

A draft of the paper argues that this individual could be modelled as part of a clade [a group sharing descent from a common ancestor] with the Irula but not with groups with higher proportions of West Eurasian related ancestry such as Punjabis, and goes on to suggest that the inhabitants of Rakhigarhi probably spoke an early Dravidian language.


However, the results also show clear evidence of mixing with another population from outside the subcontinent, labelled 'Iranian agriculturalist'. This is a population that had been identified in earlier studies of ancient DNA and is consistent with the hypothesis that some agricultural technologies were introduced to the subcontinent through contact with the 'fertile crescent' in West Asia, widely regarded as one of the birthplaces of Eurasian agriculture in the 5th-8th millennium BC.

For an older generation of Indians, the Rakhigarhi results may sound like a reboot of half-remembered schoolbooks: 'Dravidian' Harappans followed by Vedic horsemen from the Steppe. And for anyone who has been following more recent developments in population genetics too, the latest findings will sound familiar.

Meanwhile, in the popular press, coverage of recent discoveries in the archaeology or genetics of Harappan India has been obsessively and distractingly focused on the 'Aryan invasion theory'. What gives? And why does it matter? The answer has to do with the fact that recent years have been a very busy time in ancient Indian history. And modern Indian politics.

SKULDUGGERY

In the months preceding the news of the Rakhigarhi findings, anticipation was high, and fuelled by a series of related research papers and their journalistic glosses, an amusing if acrimonious debate erupted in the social media and the blogosphere. Shinde for his part was given to dropping broad hints that the Rakhigarhi results would point to a 'continuity' between the population of the ancient town and its present-day inhabitants (predominantly Jats, a population marked by pronounced R1a Steppe ancestry).

Perhaps it should be no surprise, in these fractious times, that fake news would be deployed as a weapon in the civil war that has consumed ancient Indian history. In January this year, a Hindi newspaper carried an article purportedly based on an interview with Rai, asserting that the Rakhigarhi DNA was, in fact, a close match for North Indian Brahmins and that the findings would establish that India was the 'native place' of the Indo-European language family.

"Utter crud!" was the reaction of David Wesolowski, host of the Eurogenes blog-well regarded by some of the world's leading geneticists as a go-to site for the latest debate. Wesolowski's site witnessed frequent arguments over the likelihood that Rakhigarhi DNA would turn up the R1a1 marker.

Here, extended and nuanced discussions of the finer points of molecular evidence would often conclude with kiss-offs along the lines of "you're an idiot" or "you're going to need psychiatric help when the results are out". In the event, Wesolowski's own prediction, "Expect no R1a in Harappa but a lot of ASI [Ancestral South Indian]", would prove to be spot on.
Behind the surly invective and the journalistic misdirection were rumours and whispers of a face-off between a rising tide of scientific evidence and the political pressures of nativist, Hindutva sentiments.

The saga of 'Hindutvist history' is by now another familiar tale, with its origins in early Hindu nationalist reaction to colonial archaeology and linguistics, a monomaniacal obsession with refuting the 'Aryan invasion theory'.

It is perhaps most clearly expressed in an irate passage from former RSS sarsanghchalak M.S. Golwalkar's screed Bunch of Thoughts (1966): "It was the wily foreigner, the Britisher, who carried on the insidious propaganda that we were never one nation, that we were never the children of the soil but mere upstarts having no better claim than the foreign hordes of Muslims or the British over this country."

In recent years, this resentful impulse has focused particularly intently on asserting the wishful conclusion that the Indus Valley Civilisation itself must be 'Vedic'. This has understandably gained traction in the popular imagination in tandem with the political rise of Hindutva. In 2013, Amish Tripathi, a bestselling author of 'Hinduistical fantasy' novels, gave vent to the keening desire for a 'Vedic IVC' in a short fiction in which future archaeologists discover clinching evidence "that the Indus Valley Civilisation and the Vedic-erroneously called Aryan-civilisation were one and the same." The story is poignantly titled, 'Science Validates Vedic History'.

Inevitably, the advent of a BJP majority government in the general elections of 2014 has given new energy -- and funding-to the self-gratifying urges of Hindutvist history.

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The charge has been led by the Union minister for culture Mahesh Sharma, who has prioritised the project of 'rewriting Indian history', whether by appointing a pliant obscurantist as head of the Indian Council of Historical Research or promoting the 'research' of para-scientific outfits such as I-SERVE (Institute of Scientific Research on Vedas) and a former customs officer who uses hobby astronomy software to establish that "thus Shri Ram was born on 10th January in 5114 BC...around 12 to 1 noontime [in Ayodhya]".

In March this year a Reuters report revealed details of a meeting of a 'history committee' convened by Sharma at the office of the Director General of the Archaeological Survey of India in January 2017. Its task, according to the committee chairman K.N. Dixit, was "to present a report that will help the government rewrite certain aspects of ancient history".
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I will give a detailed response later but few points to note.

  • As far as looking at this from the Pakistani perspective all I see is a internal dispute between two camps of Indian's to the detriment of us. What they are saying is that Indus civilization including as far west as Mehr Garh/Mundigak are either North Indian [note Indian] or South Indian [note Indian]. Meaning they are Indian. How you name things and the science of that - nomenclature often exposes the agenda and or bias of the authors. So it is here.

  • Don't forget at the timescale we are talking about there was no India. Or Pakistan. Or Iran. Or Afghanistan. The choice of using 'India' as opposed to 'South Asia' is itself reflective of the agenda which is being driven by Indians. In fact the sites in India are peripheral to Indus but because Indian government driven by Hindutwas is pouring money into this whole mission to connect and manufacture their history under the brand "India" or "Hindu" we are getting a distorted picture.

  • Meaning can you imagine Sudanese government pouring in billions to spread the narrative about the Nile sites in their country that brings in outside interest. Further this is done under the "Africa" label. Eventually the tag "Africa" is used for everything. Eventually a split happens between "North Africa and South Africa" because they find one sampple with SAA genes. The same is going on here. And the Egyptians are left out of thier own civilization.

It's one big politically driven drama by Hindutwas with history being used to gloss "Ancient India". Fcuk em all of them.


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I will give a detailed response later but few points to note.

  • As far as looking at this from the Pakistani perspective all I see is a internal dispute between two camps of Indian's to the detriment of us. What they are saying is that Indus civilization including as far west as Mehr Garh/Mundigak are either North Indian [note Indian] or South Indian [note Indian]. Meaning they are Indian. How you name things and the science of that - nomenclature often exposes the agenda and or bias of the authors. So it is here.

  • Don't forget at the timescale we are talking about there was no India. Or Pakistan. Or Iran. Or Afghanistan. The choice of using 'India' as opposed to 'South Asia' is itself reflective of the agenda which is being driven by Indians. In fact the sites in India are peripheral to Indus but because Indian government driven by Hindutwas is pouring money into this whole mission to connect and manufacture their history under the brand "India" or "Hindu" we are getting a distorted picture.

  • Meaning can you imagine Sudanese government pouring in billions to spread the narrative about the Nile sites in their country that brings in outside interest. Further this is done under the "Africa" label. Eventually the tag "Africa" is used for everything. Eventually a split happens between "North Africa and South Africa" because they find one sampple with SAA genes. The same is going on here.

It's one big politically driven drama with history being used to gloss "Ancient India". Fcuk em.
1000% right..you deserve a positive rating..
 
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