Featured 4 Indian nationals added to terrorist list in Pakistan - 2020

[KhanBaba2]

Difficult to prove in my opinion. Most of the evidence would be confessions from low-level operatives of the TTP, that would be looked at with doubts.

The reason India was successful was because of the open admission of Hafiz Saeed and his ilk and the public attempts to recruit people.

In cases where India has attempted to provide evidence, much of it has been questionable as well. If you recall, often the modus operandi of such evidence was always an "ID card" of a terrorist organization and a "diary" that contained juicy details that required the imagination of a fiction writer.

That depends on whether it is a trial by media or a trial by court. In court you need real evidence.

You can check the judgement at https://nia.gov.in/writereaddata/Portal/CasesPdfDoc/2016-12-19---_judgement_of_court-2.pdf for the dilsukhnagar twin blast case. https://nia.gov.in/case-detail.htm?93

 

[xeuss]

That depends on whether it is a trial by media or a trial by court. In court you need real evidence.

You can check the judgement at https://nia.gov.in/writereaddata/Portal/CasesPdfDoc/2016-12-19---_judgement_of_court-2.pdf for the dilsukhnagar twin blast case. https://nia.gov.in/case-detail.htm?93

My point was specific to the cases of "foreign" aided terrorists. Their crimes have been relatively easy to prove. The conspiracy charge that this was inspired and aided by a foreign intelligence agency has been difficult.

I do not dispute your assertion that courts require a higher standard of proof. Thankfully, some courts have dismissed the fictitious allegations of the investigating agencies, albeit at a much delayed schedule, robbing many of their prime years.

As an addendum, police in India still largely rely on confessions as a basis of evidence. Not that other countries fare far better, but it is a disturbing statistic (slightly off topic, I know)

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I bet you! all will be rejected at the end.

Because UN is not Pakistan! you need to provide solid proof against these charges.

NOte: Fake proof's do not accepted by UN

Have you agreed to implement the UNSC Resolutions that India has been so flagrantly violating for decades?

Please don't go around touting the UN when you and your country can't be bothered to implement a UNSC requirement of a plebiscite (that India committed to multiple times and has been violating since) to resolve a 70 plus year old dispute that Pakistan and India have fought multiple wars over.

The hypocrisy and malevolent mindset on display is nauseating.

 

[El Sidd]

Parliament shall be moved to provide legal coverage to take out these terrorists on any soil on earth and space.

This should be included in Raddul Fassad

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Have you agreed to implement the UNSC Resolutions that India has been so flagrantly violating for decades?

Please don't go around touting the UN when you and your country can't be bothered to implement a UNSC requirement of a plebiscite (that India committed to multiple times and has been violating since) to resolve a 70 plus year old dispute that Pakistan and India have fought multiple wars over.

The hypocrisy and malevolent mindset on display is nauseating.

Indian "moderates" have this uncanny knack of picking and choosing which UN offices and statements to take note of, just as they pick and choose which parts of Ladakh are ACTUALLY parts of Ladakh, just as they pick and choose which past malevolent actions of India towards Pakistan constitute interference in Pakistani sovereign affairs and which ones don't...you get the idea. They're fussy eaters.

 

[Lord Of Gondor]

Excuse me, why the misleading title? Where is the evidence of "framing"? How does extracting him disprove his connections to terrorism? Contrarily in fact, evacuation of a person wanted by law enforcement agencies circumstantially implies that they have something to hide.

The title is on point.
Wanted by Pak LEA. If they had evidence, which they have zero, they would have a red corner notice.
All your circumstantial "evidence" will not change that.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

The title is on point.
Wanted by Pak LEA. If they had evidence, which they have zero, they would have a red corner notice.
All your circumstantial "evidence" will not change that.

So if he is not guilty of some form of terror support or espionage against Pakistan, then Pakistan automatically becomes guilty of "framing" him?

You may wish to hold the same standard of evidence up to judge yourself by as you expect others to be judged by.

Your title and choice of words are mere hubris, based on your prejudice, not evidence.

 

[Ace of Spades]

Indian "moderates"

Intellectually dishonest would be more appropriate word.

 

[Lord Of Gondor]

So if he is not guilty of some form of terror support or espionage against Pakistan, then Pakistan automatically becomes guilty of "framing" him?

I do not know about other countries, but here it is innocent until proven guilty.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Unfortunately ture! Today morning i was having a discussion with family, i told them the situation between Pakistan and India is very tense and there is a possibility of conflict and none of the channels are showing it and this is why i believe we as a nation are not mature enough to handle all this so called freedom of speech. Some laws should be amended to make sure states version makes the prime time news.
I have seen heading from Dawn and GEO calling out terrorists as alleged militants, we have seen the reporting by GEO on Kasab, we have seen dawn leaks and many more shining example from these so called media outlets. In a country like ours state should have some sort of check and control on the news being coming out.

Just look at the headline and the choice of words used by these fktard traitors at DAWN.

As if we don't know whether Pakistan will respond or not. Its only when you go into the story, right at the bottom, they mentioned about the Indian state terrorist.


https://www.dawn.com/news/1564930/q...t-attacks-says-islamabad-will-respond-in-kind

This should have made the headlines with the names of Indian state terrorists and their pictures beaming all over Pakistani media.



How many Pakistanis, even today know the name of Indian state terrorist Angara Appaji, who is responsible for the APS carnage? While in India, every bloody slum dweller will know Hafiz Saeed by name and his face. Sh|tholes, who call themselves "establishment" want to take this case to UN without their own people knowing who is who.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Intellectually dishonest would be more appropriate word.

The word "moderate" has the word "rat" in it, hence I find it more befitting.

I do not know about other countries, but here it is innocent until proven guilty.

Thank you for understanding rhetoric.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

I have first hand experience of this at hands of a Brigadier sahb in Washington enjoying "vacation" in America and Consulate staffers in Chicago.

Our diplomatic and military staff sucks when it comes to PR.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Why not Modi and Ajit Doval, they both self-incriminate themselves for terrorist activities in Pakistan. Pakistan should declare them terrorists at-large and kidnap them during their foreign tours.

Press Release MoFA Pakistan .

In response to media queries, the Spokesperson said that Pakistan had proposed the designation of four Indian nationals in 2019 under the United Nations 1267 Sanctions List, namely VenumadhavDongara, Ajoy Mistry, Gobinda Patnaik, and Angara Appaji.

These individuals were financing, sponsoring and organizing terrorism inside Pakistan by providing financial, technical and material support to terrorist groups including TTP, Jamaat-ul-Ahrar and others.

We are disappointed that Pakistan’s proposal to designate VenumadhavDongara as a terrorist has been objected to. Pakistan hopes that the listing requests of other three Indian nationals will be given due consideration by the UNSC 1267 Sanctions Committee in an objective and transparent manner.

Taking advantage of the prolonged conflict in our neighbourhood, India has fomented terrorism inside Pakistan by providing training, financial and material support to terrorist groups to kill innocent people in Pakistan. These Indian nationals are now residing in India with impunity which vindicates Pakistan’s position that India is a state-sponsor of terrorism.

Islamabad
24 June 2020
270/2020

### ((( They are declared terrorists in Pakistan and are wanted in different terrorism related cases in Pakistan )))

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Have you agreed to implement the UNSC Resolutions that India has been so flagrantly violating for decades?

Please don't go around touting the UN when you and your country can't be bothered to implement a UNSC requirement of a plebiscite (that India committed to multiple times and has been violating since) to resolve a 70 plus year old dispute that Pakistan and India have fought multiple wars over.

The hypocrisy and malevolent mindset on display is nauseating.

Sir ji, if you talk Kashmir and about UN resolution, also only india needs to follow then it will be totally unfair.

As per the UN resolution, it talks about Indian, Pakistan and Chinese held parts of Jammu and Kashmir including GB and aksai chin.

So why should only India needs to follow the UN resolution? Pls ask Chinese to follow the same And Pakistan....

Being a very practical man... I know, its not possible now... But Pakistani people will never understand and accept Because Pakistani politicians are not allowing them to understand. They are keep beating the dead body (UN resolution on Kashmir, ohh let me correct " resolution on Jammu and Kashmir and it does mean all parts of Jammu and Kashmir - India, Pakistan and China") to get the political benefits.

Its BS to even think about it now. It is not possible at any cost... Even war or anything.

 

[KeyBORED Warrior]

Atleast they are not from Phoenix Consultancy.

The real Masood Azhar... Indians have been unable to catch....
@KeyBORED Warrior

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Will the real Masood Azhar please stand up?

This one is a gym instructor and therefore a badass, the indians should be wary.