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Construction will need 10 years, it appears it is best to fill the gap when we can
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These have Destroyer Designation , so automatically they are above frigate ships in term of fire power
More capable then our OHP as these have all their weapons intact
While we are getting new ships , it is 100% correct decision but till they arrive
However we need a interim solution for between now and when the new ships arrive
- They also can house , the anti submarine helicopters as well
A much better option then swift ships we were once negotiating not long ago
These 4 ship give us Anti Air , Anti Submarine , Anti Ship capability in one package
Just thought it was a great option to consider considering the events unfolding around us
The Anti Air & Anti Submarine , role would add more depth in our Navy's Present Need
And yes one day when Type054 arrive then our navy can make decisions how to align the ships
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this makes no sense. Classifications literally mean nothing. There are frigates and corvettes that are better armed than some destroyers. Heck, the SA'AR 6 corvette is better armed than the Milgem Frigates and the 054A/P...
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[emoji41] Construction will need 10 years, it appears it is best to fill the gap when we can
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The weapons on board are superior to many of our ships
Armament:
- Note: Aramaments listed are for latest 051 modernized variant
- 16 anti-ship missiles
- 8 surface-to-air missiles + 16 spare (manual reload)
- 2 twin-barrel 130 mm dual purpose guns
- 4 Type 76A dual-37 mm anti-aircraft guns
- 2 Type 75 anti-submarine rocket systems
- 6 torpedo tubes
- Depth charges
- 38 naval mines
They have Sea to Air Missiles + Anti Aircraft guns
They have Anti Ship missiles (More quantity then our missile boats)
They have anti Submarines Depth Chargers
They got anti ship Torpedo
Plus they can also lay down mines
These are available now , vs waiting till Type054 arrives their is no delivery delay
Indeed some equipments on SAAR6 is better than 054AP. But I don’t agree that it is totally better armed than 054AP. 054AP has better anti-ship fire, better anti-sub warfare capabilities, better endurance, better SAM missile.
I think the refreshing will be done by Engineers
That is not an issue if it was me , I would have already purchased these 4-7 Ships
Loaded it up with HERBA and get some Chinese CWIS solution for protection
Radar we would have made something local over time for these machines
I don't like to have headaches with long delivery timelines my approach is fill gap now and get it done
And Sailors would have been training on the ships
Are the new ships Type 054 / Milgem better? yes they are but this is about "Present" gap
Just because they're obselete does not mean they are of no value ... should maintenance costs be low I don't see any reason why the Pakistani navy shouldn't purchase it when its surface firepower is currently very lowObsolete.
Just because they're obselete does not mean they are of no value ... should maintenance costs be low I don't see any reason why the Pakistani navy shouldn't purchase it when its surface firepower is currently very low
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Well, so, the Barak-8 is pretty up there in terms of SAM, it also carries the C-Dome which uses the Tamir missile which IIRC can also be used against aircraft. It also carries 16 AShM's, probably harpoons. Though no, i completely agree with you, i was just saying how classifications of ships means nothing
Lease these ships Till Type054 arrive in Pakistan
Send a delegation and pick up the 4 units and add them immediately in Pakistan Navy
Ships retired May , 2019**
https://www.defenseworld.net/news/2...oyers_Days_after_Commissioning_2_New_Warships
The destroyer flotilla of the Chinese Navy under the PLA Northern Theater Command held a retirement ceremony for four first-generation missile destroyers.
The decommissioning of the 4 ships at a military port in Lyushun, Liaoning Province, followed the induction of two Type 052D guided missile destroyers in the naval shipyard of Dalian on May 12.
Official media identified the decommissioned ships as the guided-missile destroyers Kaifeng (Hull 109), Dalian (Hull 110), Zunyi (Hull 134) and Guilin (Hull 164) All of the four destroyers had been in service for more than 30 years.