3 killed in Chicago by a white man with gun. Multiple injured and one killed in Denver as well.

[gambit]

TI spoke about domestic crimes done in a country and US invading and 'liberating' people.....?

And you are wrong in even trying to conflate the two. There is no tie, not even in the abstract.

 

[Amaa'n]

Then what do you mean when you used the word 'constitution'?


How does this make you know what you are talking about when it comes to the US?

The constitution of the country I reside in, that could a midde eastern state or SEA or SA, how does it concern you? Somehow living in US makes you an authority on global affairs?

 

[BHarwana]

Lol...This just goes to show that you -- like the other guy -- are not serious. In the US, you cannot simply ban guns because the right to possess guns is secured in the US Constitution. So before you can ban guns, you must FIRST amend the US Constitution.


In your example, the consequence would be that of extradition. I was thinking in the line of Sept 11, 2001.

I think in USA to ban guns is very easy. Few people just have to raise their hands in the parliament and chaoo guns are banned.

 

[gambit]

banning gun? LOL

Most crime happen with illegal weapon (yes that include guns that belong to your family member and you use it illegally) Banning gun do nothing, it's like people trying to rob bank and because they would use car to escape the scene, maybe we should ban car ownership so people cannot escape after a heist..

In Pakistan, there is the blasphemy law that created a lot of headaches. Maybe we should ban all religions.

 

[jhungary]

Tbh we are not even discussing the adventuresvof US here on the thread anyway but since you did bring it up nd evendid the ffort of defending it then let me just say it out, I had mentioned Middle East and Northern Africa....(MENA), nkt once I mentioned Afganistan or brought the issue of expedion......I spoke about domestic crimes done in a country and US invading and 'liberating' people.....?
No matter what you say or how you put it, the fact remains fact......you guys have double standards like we all do and we all have our way of perceiving things and we are no diiferent......so there is no need for a senior member like you to jump over nother member like that.....forum is to discuss, lets keep it civilized......

First of all, I did not jump anyone, I simply point out how he treated a piece of news as one thing, another piece of news as another.

I do not even believe this incident is terrorist related, so I don't know why you bring it up in the first place.

And yes, all crime have its consequence, and as I said, domestic crime does not equate to there are no international consequence. and in this case, we go to Afghanistan to hunt OBL, and that is the case we are talking about. He is NOT the first one, (at least Escobar preceded him) and he is not going to be the last one. And that is the domestic policy of the United States, you can call it whatever you want, but it would be the same in every country, just that do you have the resource to follow thru an operation.

 

[Amaa'n]

Well, just because it is a domestic crime, it does not mean the consequence stay domestic.

Also, he try to relate all domestic crime without the defined prescription of requirement is unfounded, a Murder charge is different than a Manslaughter charge, the basic concept of difference is Malice, which mean if we appear to have malice on one crime over the other, then one would be charge with Murder and the other will be manslaughter, and thus, the consequence are different, even tho both are domestic crime.

We are not evening discussing the law here anyway.....and trust me you do not need to explain hose terms to me....I just hopped in here just to show you guys the mirror.....thats all.....

 

[gambit]

The constitution of the country I reside in, that could a midde eastern state or SEA or SA, how does it concern you?

Then perhaps you should have been more specific in WHICH constitution were you referencing.

Somehow living in US makes you an authority on global affairs?

Somehow living in Pakistan make you an authority in domestic US issues?

 

[jhungary]

In Pakistan, there is the blasphemy law that created a lot of headaches. Maybe we should ban all religions.

You know what, you know the common denominator of all crime?

That there is a person or person(s) who are behind it and committing those crime, and the absolutely right thing to do is to ban people, no people = no crime. It's that simple.

 

[gambit]

I think in USA to ban guns is very easy. Few people just have to raise their hands in the parliament and chaoo guns are banned.

This is why you should stay out of domestic US issues. The US does not have a parliament.

 

[Amaa'n]

First of all, I did not jump anyone, I simply point out how he treated a piece of news as one thing, another piece of news as another.

I do not even believe this incident is terrorist related, so I don't know why you bring it up in the first place.

And yes, all crime have its consequence, and as I said, domestic crime does not equate to there are no international consequence. and in this case, we go to Afghanistan to hunt OBL, and that is the case we are talking about. He is NOT the first one, (at least Escobar preceded him) and he is not going to be the last one. And that is the domestic policy of the United States, you can call it whatever you want, but it would be the same in every country, just that do you have the resource to follow thru an operation.

And here we all thought you guys were better, turns out you guys are just likeus, Thugs in uniform with no pride but hypocrisy.....I didnt think this crime is terrorism either..my issue is how one is brushed underthe carpet while other gets an audience at international level.....each country has her own sovereignity to defend......your lea fail to defend its citizens here from a domestic crime as well as terrorism...... ....and you guys go and invade the third country.....when the shooters are US citizens in bith cases......

 

[jhungary]

We are not evening discussing the law here anyway.....and trust me you do not need to explain hose terms to me....I just hopped in here just to show you guys the mirror.....thats all.....

What mirror?

You are mixing the issue here.

On one side, you talked about Domestic Crime and another side, you talked about Foreign Policy.

And in this case, this is a pure and simple murder, you can call it a terrorist incident but that does not mean it have to be treated as one, hence I don't know why and how you can related your point of "Invading and Liberating" a foreign country just because a dude kill 3 dude in a hospital.

 

[gambit]

And here we all thought you guys were better,...

But we are better. Why do you think so many -- including Pakistanis -- want to come to US?

 

[jhungary]

And here we all thought you guys were better, turns out you guys are just likeus, Thugs in uniform with no pride but hypocrisy.....I didnt think this crime is terrorism either..my issue is how one is brushed underthe carpet while other gets an audience at international level.....each country has her own sovereignity to defend......your lea fail to defend its citizens here from a domestic crime as well as terrorism...... ....and you guys go and invade the third country.....when the shooters are US citizens in bith cases......

that is because the root cause of that incident is in Afghanistan and Iraq.

I can do whatever I can within US, but as long as order coming from overseas, I will always be in a reactive state.

But then how that related to the crime talked in this thread? That is what I want to know. You can go around and around and talked to me about a lot of stuff, at the end of the day, this thread is about a poster posted a single gunman kill 3 guys in a local hospital. I come here and point this out, and you come here and talk about "Afghanistan" and Foreign Invasion? How does that make sense?

 

[BHarwana]

This is why you should stay out of domestic US issues. The US does not have a parliament.

Then raise hands in Senate and congress and chaoooo guns are banned.

For you logic to keep me away because of grammatical mistakes here is a good video for you.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1064600594676150273

 

[gambit]

How does that make sense?

He is only in his 20s. Not been around like you and I.