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2014 is not 1962 - Indian Much Better Prepared for Chinese Challenge

Why everyone think China and India will have a war? We may be peer competitors but I dont think we are arch rivals. It just the constant media sensational all the possibilities.

Yes i know(having visited china and India, the Chinese are more focus on their eternal nemensis Japan and dont really care much/know much about India, meanwhile the opposite seems to be true for India), So China's main arch rival/ennemy(it has been the case for a century now) is Nippon. Seems the Indians want that title instead.:cheesy::D

On topic, there won't be any war per se between china and India, maybe little standstill/posturing in their disputed border, but no wars. Asians should just get over with history and move on, they seem to have a hard time forgetting/forgiving about the past, be it India, pakistan, china, south korea, vietnam, cambodia/laos against Vietnam, etc if they continue this way, then Asia im afraid will keep on being divided/weak as a block(just as its the case today). So the media/governement officials who fan this news/bullshit stuffs for their own political reasons/benefits should cut the crap about historical events and stop whinning like babies IMO, its about time.:coffee:
 
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Yes i know(having visited china and India, the Chinese are more focus on their eternal nemensis Japan and dont really care much/know much about India, meanwhile the opposite seems to be true for India), So Chinas main arch rival/ennemy(it has been the case for a century now) is Nippon. Seems the Indians want that title instead.:cheesy::D

On topic, there wont be any war per se between china and India, maybe little standstill/posturing in their disputed border, but no wars. Asians should just get over with history and move on, they seem to have a hard time forgetting/forgiving about the past, be it India, pakistan, china, south korea, vietnam, cambodia/laos against Vietnam, etc if they continue this way, then Asia im aafraid being divided/weak as a block. So cut the media/governemnt officials who fan this news/stuffs should cut the crap about historical events and stop whinning like babies IMO, its about time.:coffee:

China and india may make up in 10-12 years,,issue is sortable but pakistan!!??

Religion man,,religion:crazy:(both sides have diff)
Biggest i pediment between pakistan and india
 
The elephant will show the dragon it's muscle this time!

Not like the retreats from Chumar in 2013 and 2014 :lol:
 
These fools and their big mouth......
These guys needs to shut up and focus on their work.
 
Really?wasn't india GDP more than China back than?wasn't china a very isolated country back than?

Not today,tomorrow,decade or centuries but it should be put into the mind of the indians that the best they can defeat is not even someone of maldive size.


yet we did break you into two halves.....hehehe

India China should not fight as It will hurt both economies
 
I don't think people realize this or not but 2014 not being 1962 applies more to China than India; China can win a war much....much better today against every one of its neighbors if it goes to war than it could in '62.

True in an open field.
But over himalayas attacking first if the enemy has forfified properly will lead to huge irreparable casualties.Hence difficult.

But if chinese want to win ,,they will hands down simply because we cannot afford war for long time,,,same as india vs pakistan.

Difference----No himalayas between india and pakistan.
 
True in an open field.
But over himalayas attacking first if the enemy has forfified properly will lead to huge irreparable casualties.Hence difficult.

But if chinese want to win ,,they will hands down simply because we cannot afford war for long time,,,same as india vs pakistan.

Difference----No himalayas between india and pakistan.

Why would they need to attack you from across the Himalayas ? :unsure:

They can simply fortify themselves over there to repulse any attack from the Himalayas while attacking you guys from a position of their choosing from elsewhere !

Maybe via Aksai Chin or the Arunachel Pradesh or elsewhere wherever military acumen dictates it as such; you're assuming that they'd play by your rules....why should they ?

Besides even within the Himalayas they can attack and win because they can bear overwhelming force at a position of their choosing.
 
Why would they need to attack you from across the Himalayas ? :unsure:

They can simply fortify themselves over there to repulse any attack from the Himalayas while attacking you guys from a position of their choosing from elsewhere !

Maybe via Aksai Chin or the Arunachel Pradesh or elsewhere wherever military acumen dictates it as such; you're assuming that they'd play by your rules....why should they ?

Besides even within the Himalayas they can attack and win because they can bear overwhelming force at a position of their choosing.

Nope,we have good deployment in those areas,,point being its not like india-pakistan with majority except kashmir as plains.Had it been like that we would be 1000 times more worried.
 
Nope,we have good deployment in those areas,,point being its not like india-pakistan with majority except kashmir as plains.Had it been like that we would be 1000 times more worried.

Okay ! :(
 
Yes i know(having visited china and India, the Chinese are more focus on their eternal nemensis Japan and dont really care much/know much about India, meanwhile the opposite seems to be true for India), So Chinas main arch rival/ennemy(it has been the case for a century now) is Nippon. Seems the Indians want that title instead.:cheesy::D

On topic, there wont be any war per se between china and India, maybe little standstill/posturing in their disputed border, but no wars. Asians should just get over with history and move on, they seem to have a hard time forgetting/forgiving about the past, be it India, pakistan, china, south korea, vietnam, cambodia/laos against Vietnam, etc if they continue this way, then Asia im aafraid being divided/weak as a block. So cut the media/governemnt officials who fan this news/stuffs should cut the crap about historical events and stop whinning like babies IMO, its about time.:coffee:

How could Indians never understand it? Or it's perhaps one of India's grand strategies in international politics. 8-)
 
Of course India is.
Some posts that we are likely to see -

1. India to become superpower - India to become superpower by 2012: Kalam - Economic Times

2. India does not have toilets

3. China adds India's GDP every 2-3 years

4. India's GDP reduced from 5.7 to 5.3%

5. India's Muslim population will be 50% and there may be Partition 2.0

6. Terrorist PM is elected, so Muslims will create new country

7. China is going to fix India's Forward Policy

8. Nehru attacked China when China was amidst a famine

9. China is stronger than ever before

10. Hope Pakistan does not miss the chance like Ayub did in 1962....etc etc

how you genius have managed to forget IQ issue is making most people disappointed. :hitwall:


2014 IS NOT 1962: INDIA MUCH BETTER PREPARED FOR CHINESE CHALLENGE – ANALYSIS

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Chinese President Xi Jinping and Prime Minister Narendra Modi. Photo: PTI

China, emerging as one of the most powerful global players in recent years, is pursuing its geostrategic interests with enormous military and economic might.

Being in the immediate vicinity, India has to bear the brunt of its muscle-flexing over incursions and territorial claims, which occurs with a vexing regularity, besides erection of temporary structures on our soil.

China watchers, strategic experts and peaceniks have usually been counselling India to keep a low profile for fear of antagonizing the mighty neighbour. The common refrain is that India is no match militarily and would be worsted in any conflict, often against the backdrop of the humiliating defeat in 1962, almost 52 years to the day. But could one ignore ground realities in assessing potential threats and eventualities.

It may be true that well trained and heavily armed People’s Liberation Army (PLA) overran Indian positions in Ladakh and parts of what is now Arunachal Pradesh, formerly North-East Frontier Agency (NEFA), in a bid to teach the country a “lesson”. In spite of the overwhelming Chinese superiority in numbers, equipment and logistics, scattered pockets of Indian soldiers, armed only with vintage Lee Enfield rifles, some sub-machine guns and mortars, held off the enemy as long as they could, fighting until the last round and the last man.

It speaks eloquently about the motivation and performance levels of our outnumbered infantrymen. Bereft of supplies, artillery or air support and let down by the political leadership of the day, they died defending their regimental pride and the nation’s honour, in sub-zero temperatures, with the odds being stacked heavily against them. The lessons were not lost on the army, which got its act together and proved its mettle in the 1965 and 1971 wars with Pakistan.

But as public memory is short, it needs to be jiggled to place matters in the correct perspective. The brief Sino-Indian border engagement of 1962 is not the only instance when the two armies clashed, though it has skewed our perception since. Five years later, in a virtual replay of the circumstances that sparked the border war at Nathu La, China questioned the legitimacy of the McMahon Line for the second time and took to sabre rattling to show its displeasure.

The military leadership, still smarting under the past humiliation and much better prepared this time, resolutely refused to back down in the face of repeated PLA provocations, a familiar tactic to unnerve potential enemies. Unlike the earlier Himalayan debacle, every act of firing or assault on Indian positions invited a befitting response. These border skirmishes escalated into a full scale battle at Nathu La and Cho La in Sikkim, that raged between Sep 7 and 13, 1967, including exchange of intense artillery fire.

The Indian side, for once, led by young subalterns and majors inflicted heavy casualties on the enemy, killing as many as 300 of its troops and wounding 450 others, while sustaining a loss of only 88 men and 163 injured, according to an estimate. It shattered the myth of invincibility built around the PLA, and forced its retreat from Sikkim. The battle resonated with acts of individual courage and heroism on the part of the officers and men.

Compared to the Indian Army, which is arguably the world’s most battle hardened military, the PLA is relatively inexperienced, with limited exposure to wars over the last 50 years, save for the one with Vietnam in 1979, from where it retreated in ignominy, besides some border skirmishes with India. Indian Army’ professionalism and mastery of the entire spectrum of conflicts, ranging from decades of counter-insurgency and guerrilla style operations to four wars with Pakistan, including Kargil, in a diversity of terrains and climatic conditions, remains unsurpassed.

India has also ensured complete dominion of Siachen, the world’s highest and harshest battlefield, by developing cutting edge skills and standard operating procedures that help soldiers survive in extremely hostile conditions on the hotly disputed glacier. Indian outposts on those rarefied heights have beaten back a number of Pakistani assaults. However, periodic clamour for demilitarization of a vital strategic and military asset is fraught with unthinkable consequences for India.

The Sumdorong Chu episode in 1986, the third in a series of border skirmishes, demonstrates how firm action by the top brass literally saved the day. General K. Sundarji, the then army chief, responding to repeated acts of Chinese incursions and building a helipad in Sumdorong Chu valley, (Arunachal Pradesh), promptly despatched an entire brigade to “stare down the Chinese”. Sundarji stood his ground and even offered to resign, when then prime minister Rajiv Gandhi, fearing a clash with the PLA, insisted on a pullback. But the Chinese withdrawal vindicated the general’s stance.

China also invaded Vietnam in February 1979, provoked by the latter’s intervention in Cambodia to end Pol Pot’s reign of brutality and genocide. Employing massive “human wave” tactics, backed by artillery support and armoured columns, the PLA advanced some 20 km into its territory. Far from diverting its Cambodia-based army regulars, Vietnam rallied its second rung yet battle-tested border guards and local militias.

These cadres, fresh from a prolonged conflict with the US, fought with a ferocity that inflicted heavy casualties on the PLA, stunning the world. The brutal war, lasting only a few weeks, left 20,000 Chinese dead and an equal number injured. The PLA’s overwhelming firepower and numbers crumbled in the face of the spirited Vietnamese counter-attack. Vietnam also suffered almost as many dead and some 100,000 civilian casualties. The Indian Army reportedly sent a team to Vietnam to study the operational tactics with which it repelled the aggressors.

As a last resort, India can deploy the Special Frontier Force (SFF). Raised in the aftermath of 1962 war, the formation is tailor made for hit-and-run guerrilla operations. Officered and manned by the Indian Army and Tibetan conscripts, it came into the limelight during Operation Bluestar. SFF bands operating behind enemy lines can tie up and neutralise entire PLA brigades and divisions. It would not be a simple walkover for China. 2014 is not 1962!

Source:- 2014 Is Not 1962: India Much Better Prepared For Chinese Challenge - Analysis - Eurasia Review


So india is ready, huh? :rofl:

China will soon launch 22 Mars, 14 Neptunes and 35 Jupiters into the South Tibet region.

This alone will keep Indian DRDO and HAL busy like headless chicken for next half a decade surely :rofl:
 
Why would they need to attack you from across the Himalayas ? :unsure:

They can simply fortify themselves over there to repulse any attack from the Himalayas while attacking you guys from a position of their choosing from elsewhere !

Maybe via Aksai Chin or the Arunachel Pradesh or elsewhere wherever military acumen dictates it as such; you're assuming that they'd play by your rules....why should they ?

Besides even within the Himalayas they can attack and win because they can bear overwhelming force at a position of their choosing.

The himalayan ranges exist in those places as well. In fact, "Arunachal Pradesh" literally means the land where dawn lights up the mountains. (AP is where the sun first shines on India every day.) This is the extent of the Himalayas:

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Of course they will attack from a point of their choosing, but such points from where attacks can be launched are very few - and in those spots, India has fortified the place with large army and air force presence. In the 1962 war, there is a reason that the Chinese unilaterally withdrew after occupying those parts of AP that they claim as their own - because there is no way they could have held on to it, due to the difficulty of bringing in reinforcements, and the relative ease with which India could do that. No country on earth can move large military formations through the Himalayas.
 
Keep it civil friends.

I just moderated two silly posts on here.
 
Of course India is.
Some posts that we are likely to see -

1. India to become superpower - India to become superpower by 2012: Kalam - Economic Times

2. India does not have toilets

3. China adds India's GDP every 2-3 years

4. India's GDP reduced from 5.7 to 5.3%

5. India's Muslim population will be 50% and there may be Partition 2.0

6. Terrorist PM is elected, so Muslims will create new country

7. China is going to fix India's Forward Policy

8. Nehru attacked China when China was amidst a famine

9. China is stronger than ever before

10. Hope Pakistan does not miss the chance like Ayub did in 1962....etc etc

Lmaooo I think you literally hit every major point, bravo.
 

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