2010-2012 Saudi Shopping Spree: F-15s, Helicopters & More

[lem34]

They can try sanctioning us and in return we will sanction their Oil supply. We did it once and we can do it again. And everyone see how he keeps trying to insult me to aggravate me to insult him back. And then dare claim that I am the one who can not do discussions. I will let you all be the judges here.

But on other threads your compatriots claim that you do what the Americans want cos you are scared Mossa. Dont you remember you said if Americans did not support Palestinians in UN you would do this and that???

I would never dream of insulting you my dear Muslim brother. Why are you getting so upset?

 

[Mosamania]

But on other threads your compatriots claim that you do what the Americans want cos you are scared Mossa. Dont you remember you said if Americans did not support Palestinians in UN you would do this and that???

I would never dream of insulting you my dear Muslim brother. Why are you getting so upset?

And so far the Palestinian issue hasn't come up in the UN as of yet now did it?? And it wasn't me who said it, it was the former head of intelligence in KSA that did and I merely quoted him.

And please stop trying to insult everyone's intelligence here everyone knows who and what you are.

 

[lem34]

And so far the Palestinian issue hasn't come up in the UN as of yet now did it?? And it wasn't me who said it, it was the former head of intelligence in KSA that did and I merely quoted him.

So do you now admit that KSA leadership is poor. After all if the head of intelligence is not very intelligent that doesn't speak well of others. Anyway I think Sauds should have been more careful who they purchased from and make sure they could use these weapons against anyone who threatens Sauds without needing American assistance and or approval?

 

[fd24]

And please stop trying to insult everyone's intelligence here everyone knows who and what you are.

Mosa - do me a favor - you are the one thats brought toilets up into this nice thread - so please dont bring it down to that level.

On topic - Saud seem to have spent a lot of $$$ on buying such equipment - lets hope they are allowed to use this equipment if they ever need to. Lets hope their usage isnt linked to the suppliers permission - if you catch my drift....

 

[Mosamania]

So do you now admit that KSA leadership is poor. After all if the head of intelligence is not very intelligent that doesn't speak well of others. Anyway I think Sauds should have been more careful who they purchased from and make sure they could use these weapons against anyone who threatens Sauds without needing American assistance and or approval?

Mosa - do me a favor - you are the one thats brought toilets up into this nice thread - so please dont bring it down to that level.

On topic - Saud seem to have spent a lot of $$$ on buying such equipment - lets hope they are allowed to use this equipment if they ever need to. Lets hope their usage isnt linked to the suppliers permission - if you catch my drift....

Oh look Bevis and Butthead together again.

Okay answer me my questions three if we can't use them against Israel why:
1- Under the SSPA initial F-15 contract US has said for security purposes they will not be stationed in Tabuk. However once the contract was over we have our strongest fleet stationed there.
2- Why do they fear so much for Israel that in the past they would only give downgraded stuff?? If it can't be used all together then that doesn't make sense.
3- Why does Israel try to block Saudi deals constantly?? Why are Jewish lobbies always go against any Saudi related thing wherever it is be it America or Europe??

Please do answer me these questions?? If you say "But you agreed to the terms and you bought the downgraded equipment durrrr" I say look again. Now not a single thing is "Downgraded" our recent F-15SA deal also came with "No strings attached". Our Typhoons are even going to be more advanced than the British ones. So I ask you again what do you make out of all of this??

Military company lobbies appear to be far stronger than AIPAC and such.

 

[lem34]

Military company lobbies appear to be far stronger than AIPAC and such.

My dear Mossa that statement simply is not true

2- Why do they fear so much for Israel that in the past they would only give downgraded stuff?? If it can't be used all together then that doesn't make sense.
3- Why does Israel try to block Saudi deals constantly?? Why are Jewish lobbies always go against any Saudi related thing wherever it is be it America or Europe??

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It would appear that your Israeli allies were consulted before weapons were sold to your country:

The deal has been put together in quiet consultations with Israel, which has sought assurances that it will retain its technological edge over Saudi forces, even as Saudi Arabia improves its ability to face down a shared rival

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/18/world/18arms.html

 

[Mosamania]

My dear Mossa that statement simply is not true

Actually it is. Money is the strongest thing in this world. It makes the world go round and round. And this is how it is.

I am very close to the higher ups in this country and I know what I am talking about better than anyone here ever will.

 

[lem34]

Actually it is. Money is the strongest thing in this world. It makes the world go round and round. And this is how it is.

I am very close to the higher ups in this country and I know what I am talking about better than anyone here ever will.

I thought you were in London?? Anyway look at post 111.

How close to the higher ups

 

[King Solomon]

Oh look Bevis and Butthead together again.

Firstly, refrain from calling names. It is always you and your uncivilized associates who resorts to such cheap tactics. Maintain civility.

Okay answer me my questions three if we can't use them against Israel why:
1- Under the SSPA initial F-15 contract US has said for security purposes they will not be stationed in Tabuk. However once the contract was over we have our strongest fleet stationed there.
2- Why do they fear so much for Israel that in the past they would only give downgraded stuff?? If it can't be used all together then that doesn't make sense.
3- Why does Israel try to block Saudi deals constantly?? Why are Jewish lobbies always go against any Saudi related thing wherever it is be it America or Europe??

Please do answer me these questions?? If you say "But you agreed to the terms and you bought the downgraded equipment durrrr" I say look again. Now not a single thing is "Downgraded" our recent F-15SA deal also came with "No strings attached". Our Typhoons are even going to be more advanced than the British ones. So I ask you again what do you make out of all of this??

Military company lobbies appear to be far stronger than AIPAC and such.

Many of these parts are required frequently for maintaining your F 15s. Answer me, where are you gonna get them if sanctioned? Better face up to your reality.

 

[Mosamania]

It would appear that your Israeli allies were consulted before weapons were sold to your country:

The deal has been put together in quiet consultations with Israel, which has sought assurances that it will retain its technological edge over Saudi forces, even as Saudi Arabia improves its ability to face down a shared rival

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/18/world/18arms.html

Which is exactly why the deal dragged on for years. It either came our way or the highway. And eventually it came our way.

And yeah that is why Israelis were "Consulted" because they are very afraid of their "Allies" LOL Amazing Aryan_B logic here everyone you amaze more and more everyday.

It would appear that your Israeli allies were consulted before weapons were sold to your country:

The deal has been put together in quiet consultations with Israel, which has sought assurances that it will retain its technological edge over Saudi forces, even as Saudi Arabia improves its ability to face down a shared rival

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/18/world/18arms.html

Which is exactly why the deal dragged on for years. It either came our way or the highway. And eventually it came our way.

And yeah that is why Israelis were "Consulted" because they are very afraid of their "Allies" LOL Amazing Aryan_B logic here everyone you amaze more and more everyday.

 

[lem34]

Which is exactly why the deal dragged on for years. It either came our way or the highway. And eventually it came our way.

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You just do not get it mate if Israelis had said no you wouldnt have got it lol


Second is the fact that, so far at least, the Israeli government--which has often and understandably sought to block arms transactions with Arab states in the past (and just this weekend objected to a new Russian sale of cruise missiles to Syria), has yet to utter a peep of protest. In fact, sources suggest the Israelis have actually blessed the Saudi purchase, in part because the weapons systems are less sophisticated than what Israel gets access to. For example, the Israelis are currently slated to soon buy state-of-the-art F-35s, while the planes the Saudis will be getting are updated versions of a 34-year-old model.

http://www.theatlantic.com/internat...billion-saudi-arms-deal-its-about-iran/63280/

 

[Mosamania]

Firstly, refrain from calling names. It is always you and your uncivilized associates who resorts to such cheap tactics. Maintain civility.



Many of these parts are required frequently for maintaining your F 15s. Answer me, where are you gonna get them if sanctioned? Better face up to your reality.

You just do not get it mate if Israelis had said no you wouldnt have got it lol

It is you who doesn't get it. Besides I don't expect you to anyways. Since your the leader of the conspiracy theory/Propaganda pack here it is quite idiotic for anyone to assume you to be able to enter into a fruitful discussion. I mean for God's sakes look at what the poor guy's thread was turned into.

Instead of military discussions it was resorted to this $hit. The same old thing again and again.

 

[King Solomon]

It is you who doesn't get it. Besides I don't expect you to anyways. Since your the leader of the conspiracy theory/Propaganda pack here it is quite idiotic for anyone to assume you to be able to enter into a fruitful discussion. I mean for God's sakes look at what the poor guy's thread was turned into.

Instead of military discussions it was resorted to this $hit. The same old thing again and again.

You are truly an uncivilized,mannerless and bigoted person. It is my mistake, I thought you would maintain civility in your discussion. Apparently, your parents did not teach you manners. I must've expected too much from you and your likes. Aidos'.

 

[Mosamania]

People underestimate KSA's twisting arm power. Does anybody remember the American/Israeli attempt to block the Saudi Typhoon deal?? 'How they magically resurrected a 1985 deal out of no where to try and stop the Typhoon deal??

"Robert Wardle, head of the SFO, also stated (in a later High Court challenge, see below) that he had received a direct threat of a cessation of counterterrorist cooperation from the Saudi Arabian ambassador to the UK, in the first of three meetings held to assess the seriousness of the threat: “as he put it to me, British lives on British streets were at risk”.

You are truly an uncivilized,mannerless and bigoted person. It is my mistake, I thought you would maintain civility in your discussion. Apparently, your parents did not teach you manners. I must've expected too much from you and your likes. Aidos'.

Good riddance. Don't let the door hit you in the way out.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

You are truly an uncivilized,mannerless and bigoted person. It is my mistake, I thought you would maintain civility in your discussion. Apparently, your parents did not teach you manners. I must've expected too much from you and your likes. Aidos'.

Does this personal insults parade gives you any gravity?
You haven't ever refuted anyone here in a logical, civilized manner, all you always say in this forum is Israel/Iran and Russia can flatten Amman, Alriad or Turkey in 5 seconds...
You were asking about spare parts of Saudi jets, and Mossa answered you that the are being produced at Alsallam Co, KSA is goung to build 1000 military constructions in the next few years, so don't worry. KSA is going to maintain it's position as the forth strongest airforce in the world for a long time...