20 Facts That Afghans as a Nation Need to Understand & Accept

[Areesh]

1. Nobody gives a sh!t in this world whether you are a 5000 years old country or not

2. Nobody shares your grandiose claims of being a "graveyard of empires"

3. Pakistan is a reality and not an artificial state unlike your delusional dreams

4. Pakistan is here to stay

5. Durand line is international border as per everyone in this world and you would have to
accept that

6. There is no "100 years expiry" clause in the original durand line agreement

7. Nope you can't claim more than half of Pakistani territory as your own and then expect Pakistan to not interfere in your country

8. Nope you also can't support all kinds of miscreants and terrorists against Pakistan and then expect Pakistan to not interfere in your country

9. Nope. Supporting Baloch separatists isn't a very wise idea for your country

10. Blaming all the ills of your country on foreign powers isn't going to help you

11. You can't beat Taliban militarily

12. Taliban are a part of your country and society and you would have to accept that

13. You need to stop jumping between calling Taliban "ISI proxy" and "own Afghan brothers"

14. Start accepting various ethnic groups in your country and start giving them their due share

15. Stop blaming others for your failure and start building your country and its institutions on your own

16. Learn to live in a nation state under laws

17. Nope India can't do sh!t to help you beat Pakistan or Taliban or ISI or Pakistan army

18. You would always rely more on Pakistan than India or anyone else

19. Control religious extremism on your own. Nobody from outside can help you with that

20. In short cut the nationalist adrenaline that you have got after Trump's recent statement of wiping out Afghanistan and start accepting facts and then formulate your national policy as per those facts and realities

 

[Bengal71]

More than telling off the Afghans it sounds like you are reassuring yourselves.

 

[Areesh]

More than telling off the Afghans it sounds like you are reassuring yourselves.

The victors don't need to reassure themselves

 

[Longhorn]

The victors don't need to reassure themselves

Something I've just remembered hearing from Trump but seems to have gone unnoticed is that he said said something along the lines of Afghanistan would have to accept the Durand Line as the international border as it is by everyone else. I'm not too up on the subject but I think the Afghans have a problem with accepting the Durand Line.
Does anyone know anything of this, and if so is this something the Pak government has brought into the equation and is insisting happens as part of the overall peace process. If this were to happen, it would go a long way to removing a big impediment to relations between the two countries.

 

[ps3linux]

Few other facts

There was no Afghanistan before 1709 Hotak Empire, it was part of Safvid empire.

Before the advent of brigands like Sabuktageen and his son Mehmood Ghaznavi, upto Kabul its was part of Indian Kabul Shahi Raj. Before that it was a shithole, like today, such a shithole that Abbassid Caliph Haroon ur Rasheed exiled traitorous tribes of syria here.

Our part of the world was always full of riches, we were the food basket and still the food basket for these thankless subhumans.

They had nothing, that is why their prime profession have always been animal herding and brigands. They were such a pest of brigands that Raja Gaj had to conquer them and lay the foundations of Ghazni to keep them under his thumb, his descendants were called the Kabul Shahi or Hindu Shahi.

Low life homo sapiens have resided there for over 5000 years but human levels intellect was never observed there. They have always been thankless, traitorous, brother murderers. No one has ever killed more afghans than the afghans themselves. BTW the best among them are not typical afghans they are the descendants of the lost tribe. Some of the tribes are linked to the tribes in Pakistan but not all of them. Before Raja Gaj conquered them and laid the foundations of his kingdom they had no culture, just scattered ignorant tribes full of filthy sub-humans.

As for durand line, they have tried it many time in the past not the Pak Army of today but the brave tribes of Pakistan beat the shit out of them every time and they ran back to their holes like cowards. With the Pak Army of today they can whine like britches but cannot get an inch of Pakistan.

Editing the post Areesh had made a priceless contribution about afghan treachery in this thread a must read for all who want to explore the depth of Afghan treachery towards Pakistan.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/afgh...ghanistans-treachery-against-pakistan.542595/

 

[TMA]

Few other facts

There was no Afghanistan before 1709 Hotak Empire, it was part of Safvid empire.

Before the advent of brigands like Sabuktageen and his son Mehmood Ghaznavi, upto Kabul its was part of Indian Kabul Shahi Raj. Before that it was a shithole, like today, such a shithole that Abbassid Caliph Haroon ur Rasheed exiled traitorous tribes of syria here.

They had nothing, that is why their prime profession have always been animal herding and brigands. Ignorant fools.

low life homo sapiens have resided there for over 5000 years but human levels intellect was never observed there. They have always been thankless, traitorous, brother murderers. No one has ever killed more afghans than the afghans themselves. BTW the best among them are not typical afghans they are the descendants of the lost tribe. Some of the tribes are linked to the tribes in Pakistan but all of them.

As for durand line, they have tried it many time in the past not the Pak Army of today but the brave tribes of Pakistan beat the shit out of them every time and they ran back to their nests like cowards. With the Pak Army of today they can whine like britches but cannot get a inch of Pakistan.

Those elites in Afghanistan who hold anti-Pakistan views don't care about Afghanistan coming into being with the Hotak Dynasty. They are arrogant people who believe that Daal Khor and Gul-Khan are subhumans....

 

[ps3linux]

Those elites in Afghanistan who hold anti-Pakistan views don't care about Afghanistan coming into being with the Hotak Dynasty. They are arrogant people who believe that Daal Khor and Gul-Khan are subhumans....

Yes same Daal Khor and Gul Khan's have placed tanks at impossible places adjacent to Kunar, Nangarhar and Badakhshan to control inflow of pests.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/02/28/afghans-are-cheering-for-an-indian-win/

This article should serve as eye opener for those who are still in the dilemma of brotherly/neighborly love.

 

[Imran Khan]

one simple fact - be civilized

 

[Taimoor Khan]

21- Learn to live with the ground reality, that until American boots are there on the soil, they are a foreign occupied country. Talk of honour, pride , show of arrogance is laughable when you are a subject of foreign power.

 

[Bengal71]

The victors don't need to reassure themselves

you are victor against afghans?

 

[El Sidd]

@Khafee

Reverse the positive rating.

Thanks.

 

[B.K.N]

Thanks

What you think about these suggestions

 

[El Sidd]

What you think about these suggestions

Fair enough suggestions/opinion.

Should have used appropriate language.

 

[Khafee]

@Khafee

Reverse the positive rating.

Thanks.

Irrespective of the language, very valid points. The bottom line needs to be out there.

 

[Areesh]

you are victor against afghans?

Yes