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I am astounded at the title of thread, besharmi ki hudd paar kar li hai humne. 4 terrorists walked into a military camp killed 18 soldiers, and Indians are claiming humiliation of Pakistan.... I am in sheer disbelief.As I Said make a batti of Bhutan or even whole SAARC its a dead dead dead cow we are happy with CPEC and need to put all attention and sources energies on it, and water? stop it
What's the reality?
Russia not with you
China not with you
USA is neutral
Iran interesting in CPEC
Now sleep again keep dreaming fake sardar.
New Recruit
Has any meeting happened with Russia or Iran since Uri attacks? Wait and watch till october, post the visit of Putin, lets talk about it.As I Said make a batti of Bhutan or even whole SAARC its a dead dead dead cow we are happy with CPEC and need to put all attention and sources energies on it, and water? stop it
What's the reality?
Russia not with you
China not with you
USA is neutral
Iran interesting in CPEC
Now sleep again keep dreaming fake sardar.
New Recruit
Hope you are not Sparky from 2010-2011 days.
And India needs to have the ability to pay and exact that price. We will lose posts and you will too, but if this blah blah of economy and size difference has any validity, India should be able exact an advantage in volume of response, and that has to be price to pay for assymentric warfare.
See! Now you start talking sense
tired of useless Push Ups? USA and Russia are no one friends they sell and buy which favored their interests and take them both as your friends we happy with that
in short read the history of SAARC you can find out soon how it's useless to " Push " to force someone. Now sleep again till Uncle Sam and Russian China join SAARC.
Discussing is irrelevant, the impact on those multilateral treaties is what is being talked about.
Well it will be a war of attrition. cost of maintaining & spending ammo on 10 posts might be nothing for pakistan or India but if it is spread across the LOC then it will be definite strain on budget. As you said, funds will be diverted from other critical projects of bread & butter which will lead to discontentment and who manages it with less damage to finance will have the bragging rights on the negotiating table.
Pakistan Humiliated by south Asian countries' boycott of summit
India, Bangladesh, Afghanistan and Bhutan cite regional interference as they pull out of what was set to be a historic meeting
Jon Boone in Islamabad and Michael Safi in Delhi
Wednesday 28 September 2016 14.59 BST Last modified on Wednesday 28 September 2016 16.19 BST
Four south Asian countries are to boycott what was set to be a historic regional summit in Islamadad in November, dealing a humiliating blow to Pakistan and isolating it diplomatically.
India, Bangladesh, Afghanistan and Bhutan all said they would pull out of the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC) meeting following a collapse in relations between Pakistan and India, the subcontinent’s nuclear-armed rivals.
Statements by the region’s foreign ministries echoed India’s criticism on Tuesday night, which blamed “increasing cross-border terrorist attacks and growing interference of the internal affairs of member states” for Delhi’s decision to boycott the conference.
Until recently, the prospect of the Indian prime minister Narendra Modi’s visit to Islamabad had been seen as a potentially highly symbolic step towards reconciliation between Pakistan and India.
The two countries, however, have been engaged interse exchanges following an attack on an Indian army base on 18 September that killed 19 soldiers, which Delhi has blamed on jihadis based in Pakistan. The raid took place in town of Uri near the line of control that divides the contested Himalayan territory of Kashmir.
Four days later, India denounced Pakistan at the UN as the host of the “Ivy League of terrorism”.
Islamabad says India has provided no evidence linking the attack either to militants based in Pakistan or to the country’s intelligence agencies, which have long been accused of complicity with anti-India jihadi groups.
Pakistan’s defence minister has even suggested that India itself carried out the attack to deflect attention from its ongoing struggle to quell popular disturbances in the Indian part of Kashmir.
Indian soldiers patrol near the line of control in Kashmir following the 18 September attack. Photograph: Mukhtar Khan/AP
Tensions have been fuelled by television networks and social media on both sides of the border, with some pundits appearing to relish the prospect of all-out nuclear war.
Some Indian hawks have demanded retaliatory attacks against suspected militant camps in Pakistan, but Modi has sought to punish Islamabad with steps that fall short of military means.
His strategy is, however, far tougher than the relative restraint shown by previous Indian governments during earlier crises, such as that prompted by the four-day assault on Mumbai by Pakistani militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba in 2008.
In recent weeks, Modi has publicly backed separatist rebels in the restive Pakistani province of Balochistan, a move that has infuriated Islamabad. He has also questioned a key cross-border river treaty and vowed to orchestrate Pakistan’s diplomatic isolation.
That promise became reality on Wednesday when it became clear four out of SAARC’s eight members would not attend the summit, which it is Pakistan’s turn to host.
Afghanistan’s foreign ministry, which has long accused Pakistan of supporting the Taliban-led insurgency, was most stinging in its criticism, denouncing “the increased level of violence and fighting as a result of imposed terrorism on Afghanistan”.
Nine months ago, hopes were high for a rapprochement between India and Pakistan following Modi’s surprise visit to Lahore on Christmas day, the first time an Indian leader had set foot in Pakistan since 2004.
Pakistan’s prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, welcomes his Indian counterpart Narendra Modi to Lahore in December 2015. Photograph: PIB/AFP/Getty Images
His Pakistani counterpart, Nawaz Sharif, won a landslide election victory in 2013, determined to end the decades’ long standoff and open up trade.
“But Pakistan has a tremendous capacity to withstand coercion and a mindset that wants eternal confrontation with India that is too deeply entrenched,” he said.
On Monday, Modi ordered water officials to step up efforts to divert a greater share of the three rivers the countries share under the Indus treaty, a 1960 agreement that has survived their subsequent conflicts.
“Blood and water cannot flow together,” Modi said, a rare invocation of India’s power to meddle with the Indus river system, which flows downstream into Pakistan and provides water to 65% of the country’s landmass.
Himanshu Thakkar, the coordinator of the South Asia Network on Dams, Rivers and People, said it would take up to a decade to build dams capable of reducing the flow to Pakistan.
“But it sends a signal, and that signal will have an impact,” he said. “If India builds projects to store water from its entitlement, it will provide a means for India to control water flow to Pakistan, even temporarily.”
On Tuesday, Pakistan complained to the World Bank, which brokered the original treaty, urging it to prevent India from starting construction work on the Neelum and Chenab rivers.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ed-by-south-asian-countries-boycott-of-summit
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I think this is the end of SAARC as we know it.
pata chal gye ke wo kin countries pe depend ke sakta hay aaj has has ke
sara kala raaal ka ikk pasa..................chaloo khosh raan sara kaalaaoh so this is what Modi meant when he said he will isolate Pakistan
his effort bear fruits now Bangladesh, Afghanistan and Bhutan will not attend SAARC meetings
Modi ko apni auqaat
oh my God me to mer gya
