1965 war

[Baltistan scouts]

If we assume in 65 we had 300,00 active personal in 65 as @Baltistan scouts suggest that if we had to send 150,000 personal to concurs/invade India from north through IOK there much less chance to survive in extreme altitude and expose to the elements etc etc, so we could be literally throw those 150,000 troops into death zone and we had difficulty to fight India with let suppose 300,000 troops at our border what happened when these 150,000 troops would left for IOK, Pakistan could be doom in 65 if this stupid idea had ever taken place,stupid idea by @Baltistan scouts

It is not extreme altitude in poonch or rajouri as i suggested i m from that part of the world u are off your rocker if you think we would lose 150000 troops there .300000 troops were the standing army no reserves are included or paramilitaries .how would the indian troops deal with the conditions would they be immune from everything as well .also you keep talkin about punjab border you forget that indian troops would have to withdraw once ceasefire takes place to original ib position that is not the case along loc

 

[Signalian]

Keep it simple. Pakistan failed in its objective to acquire Kashmir or make it an independent country. India successfully defended Kashmir. That's it.

India attacked Pakistan on the night of 5th/6th september and India failed to conquer Pakistan after 17 days of war.

Simple.

It's not Hamzas character to replay to such posts, neither I have something against Indians, no I do underestimate the Indian Military, but your post is absolutely an invitation, which must be countered and conquered.

Still, the earth will rotate and the whole humanity has not killed itself from this Planet, the resolve for Kashmir will be finished by each and every Pakistani, till our last blood, and last breath, if not me then my daughters and sons, will bring back the equality, we will choke the Indian tyranny in occupied Kashmir with pure hands!


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Sir,

Its a pity when a stronger and powerful army fails and gets beaten after 17 days, willingly signing a truce.

 

[TheGreatMaratha]

India attacked Pakistan on the night of 5th/6th september and India failed to conquer Pakistan after 17 days of war.

Simple.



Sir,

Its a pity when a stronger and powerful army fails and gets beaten after 17 days, willingly signing a truce.

Which war are you talking about? Just to let you know, all the 4 wars had been started by Pakistan.

 

[War Historian]

In 1947 your country occupied Jammu and Kashmir illegally, and start killing the Muslims in Jammu region. And when they reach Kashmir valley they face the WW 2 retired personals then they realise and call for more troops from india mainland. So Pakistan also interfer in this matter to save millions of muslims.pakistan govt was not ready to see the fate of J&K Muslims cleansing like in east punjab. So they fought a war without proper weapons but they still got 1/3 valley. Then nehru run to UNO and cry for a ceasefire. Pakistan got agree on UN call for ceasefire.but nehru change his stance after tightening his grip over J&K.
In April 1965 your country attack on Pakistani region of Runn of Kuch then we reply you with handsome amount of firing. And your brave PM Shastari run to UK for mediation. Then UK came and ask both parties to go back original positions and UN made a commission for boundary relocation. Then your brave army attack on a village in Gujrat Pakistan they fire mortars that occasion. Then our army respond you and took Chamb and Jorriyan in just few days. And start marching towards the valley. It was clearly seen that with in few weeks Pakistan will took the valley from indians. Suddenly your country voilate and cross the international boundary and attack the Lahore city with an aim to do breakfast in Shalimar garden Lahore. But that bloody 13 miles never ends for indian forces after that you attack Sialkot with 500 MBT where you loss the second largest tank war after the world war 2. And after that Shastari again go to UNO for help.after 17 days war it ends.
In 1971 you attack our eastern province on the name of bengali help but that was an act of aggression.you only won thay war with the help of bengali traitors.
In 1999 war was only for a part of disputed territory of kargil and surrounding areas. We give you a great resistance and in the end your pm ask for the mediation to US president who put pressure on Pakistan. So which war you r talking that we start... don't damage the historical fact .thanks

Which war are you talking about? Just to let you know, all the 4 wars had been started by Pakistan.

 

[TheGreatMaratha]

In 1947 your country occupied Jammu and Kashmir illegally, and start killing the Muslims in Jammu region. And when they reach Kashmir valley they face the WW 2 retired personals then they realise and call for more troops from india mainland. So Pakistan also interfer in this matter to save millions of muslims.pakistan govt was not ready to see the fate of J&K Muslims cleansing like in east punjab. So they fought a war without proper weapons but they still got 1/3 valley. Then nehru run to UNO and cry for a ceasefire. Pakistan got agree on UN call for ceasefire.but nehru change his stance after tightening his grip over J&K.
In April 1965 your country attack on Pakistani region of Runn of Kuch then we reply you with handsome amount of firing. And your brave PM Shastari run to UK for mediation. Then UK came and ask both parties to go back original positions and UN made a commission for boundary relocation. Then your brave army attack on a village in Gujrat Pakistan they fire mortars that occasion. Then our army respond you and took Chamb and Jorriyan in just few days. And start marching towards the valley. It was clearly seen that with in few weeks Pakistan will took the valley from indians. Suddenly your country voilate and cross the international boundary and attack the Lahore city with an aim to do breakfast in Shalimar garden Lahore. But that bloody 13 miles never ends for indian forces after that you attack Sialkot with 500 MBT where you loss the second largest tank war after the world war 2. And after that Shastari again go to UNO for help.after 17 days war it ends.
In 1971 you attack our eastern province on the name of bengali help but that was an act of aggression.you only won thay war with the help of bengali traitors.
In 1999 war was only for a part of disputed territory of kargil and surrounding areas. We give you a great resistance and in the end your pm ask for the mediation to US president who put pressure on Pakistan. So which war you r talking that we start... don't damage the historical fact .thanks

Hehe I don't think there is even any point in even correcting you. I won't waste my time. Please kindly read 'correct' history.

 

[KhanBaba2]

India attacked Pakistan on the night of 5th/6th september and India failed to conquer Pakistan after 17 days of war.

Operation Grand Slam started on 1st September and its objective was to capture Kashmir. Which it failed to do.

 

[War Historian]

You can only hehehe because that your national habbit to attack some one if he respond then start smiling ashamed ask to forgive you.ok go and check why nehru run to the UNO in 1948.and why shastari run to UNO in 1965 even both your PM earlier threat to teach lesson, then why they run to UNO to save the face. That's you old old Chankiya policy.thanks

Hehe I don't think there is even any point in even correcting you. I won't waste my time. Please kindly read 'correct' history.

 

[Signalian]

Operation Grand Slam started on 1st September and its objective was to capture Kashmir. Which it failed to do.

The 1965 war wasnt operation Grandslam, it was India attacking Pakistan. India failed to capture Lahore or Sialkot and eventually signed a truce.

Which war are you talking about? Just to let you know, all the 4 wars had been started by Pakistan.

Not all.

 

[KhanBaba2]

The 1965 war wasnt operation Grandslam, it was India attacking Pakistan. India failed to capture Lahore or Sialkot and eventually signed a truce.


Not all.

So what was operation Grand Slam.

 

[Ultima Thule]

So what was operation Grand Slam.

Its name was operation Giberalter not operation Grand Slam

It is not extreme altitude in poonch or rajouri as i suggested i m from that part of the world u are off your rocker if you think we would lose 150000 troops there .300000 troops were the standing army no reserves are included or paramilitaries .how would the indian troops deal with the conditions would they be immune from everything as well .also you keep talkin about punjab border you forget that indian troops would have to withdraw once ceasefire takes place to original ib position that is not the case along loc

So why we didn't bring those reserve and paramilitary into 65 war please tell me, in 65 PA had shortage of Soldiers and equipment especially in Sindh and Southern Punjab , it is still a difficult terrain to cope with and 15,000 doesn't seem you high altitude even for trained military soldiers, then i have to say sorry for you and last and main thing are this idea weakens/divided the force of PA with no guarantee to capture IOK

 

[KhanBaba2]

Its name was operation Giberalter not operation Grand Slam

Maybe you should use google before replying. Find out about grand slam. If you can't find anything, let me know, I will give you some links.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Maybe you should use google before replying. Find out about grand slam. If you can't find anything, let me know, I will give you some links.

every one knows about its PA operation of IOK in 65 name Operation Giberalter, you need to google yourself

Maybe you should use google before replying. Find out about grand slam. If you can't find anything, let me know, I will give you some links.

Here it is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gibraltar
Operation Gibraltar was the codename given to the strategy of Pakistan to infiltrate Jammu and Kashmir, and instigate the locals in starting a rebellion against Indian sovereignty.

 

[KhanBaba2]

every one knows about its PA operation of IOK in 65 name Operation Giberalter, you need to google yourself


Here it is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gibraltar
Operation Gibraltar was the codename given to the strategy of Pakistan to infiltrate Jammu and Kashmir, and instigate the locals in starting a rebellion against Indian sovereignty.

Operation Gibraltar and Operation Grand Slam are two different operations. I am talking of Operation Grand Slam. I have no idea why you are bringing Operation Gibraltar in the picture.

Gibraltar started in early August and Grand Slam on 1st September.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Operation Gibraltar and Operation Grand Slam are two different operations. I am talking of Operation Grand Slam. I have no idea why you are bringing Operation Gibraltar in the picture.

Gibraltar started in early August and Grand Slam on 1st September.

Operation grand slam was not try to bring rebellion in IOK but operation Grand slam cut the indian supplies in IOK just before 65 war broken out and Major cause of 65 war was Operation Gibliarter not Operation Grand Slam

 

[KhanBaba2]

Operation grand slam was not try to bring rebellion in IOK but operation Grand slam cut the indian supplies in IOK just before 65 war broken out and Major cause of 65 war was Operation Gibliarter not Operation Grand Slam

Operation Gibraltar had been pushed back by third week of August. There was no need to go to war over a failed operation.