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1965 War – Did Pakistan Really Win? Let’s Find Out

By
Ramsha Hussain

September 5, 2018

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Courtesy: Peace Pak

We are celebrating 53rd Defence Day with the slogan of “Humain Pyar Hai Pakistan Se!” The 1965 war also known as the Indo-Pak war is still controversial. 1965 war was the second war over the status of Jammu and Kashmir between India and Pakistan. The outcome of the war and victory status is still the topic of discussion. India stated that they won the war while Pakistan’s claims are strikingly different. Here are some facts that will improve your insight about the 1965 wars! So let’s begin this journey in the history.


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Courtesy: Global Village Space


Facts And Figures Because Facts Don’t Lie!


  1. India had the infantry of 700,000, 720 tanks and 700+ aircraft. Pakistan had 260,000 infantry, 756 tanks and 280 aircraft .
  2. 8200 Indian soldiers were killed or captured whereas Pakistan’s loss was 5259 men.
  3. India lost 110 aircraft while Pakistan lost 43 aircraft.
  4. Pakistan defended when war came to its international boundary. It made Pakistan believe that it can defend itself the country 6 times more populous and occupy 7th largest area in the world.
  5. The war was well played on ground and air field! The initial achievement of Indian Army include Battle of Asal Uttar and Phillora, but don’t underestimate the Battle of Chawinda, still known as “The Graveyard of Indian Tanks”.
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Courtesy: Dawn


The Tea That Was Never Served!

Indian Army planned to drink in Lahore Gymkhana! Gen. J N Choudhary of India said. “Tomorrow we will drink in Lahore Gymkhana.” The Times of India’s editorial wrote,

“We will capture Lahore today, Sialkot tomorrow & cut Pakistan’s Railway network up to Rawalpindi in two parts putting hard conditions for Pakistan to choose Kashmir or Indian captured parts of West Punjab.”


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Courtesy: Story Of Pakistan


Land, Water And Sky Was On Fire!

The war was not merely fought on land, with the usual rivalry, the bar of standards was high. Pakistan Army, Navy and Airforce participated in the war. The statement is also true for India, and Pakistan defeated India on all three fronts. So we can say it was the hat-trick of Indian defeat!


1965 war - Pakistan Airforce


Courtesy: Geo TV



International Media Claimed That Pakistan Army Held Their Own

An interesting opinion was provided by Donald Seaman for Daily Express. On 24th September, 1965 he stated that,

“Outnumbered three-to-one, they beat the Indians to a standstill, and were about to mount a counter attack in the last six hours before the ceasefire when they were stopped on political grounds.”

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Courtesy: Haq’s Musings

Battle of Chawinda – The Largest Tank Battle since WWII

Chawinda is known as the “Graveyard of Indian Tanks”. 1965 war is also known as the largest tank battle since World War II. The nearest city to Chawinda is Sialkot and the Indian Army was planning to set it as a base. Afterall they had 230 tanks while Pakistan had merely 132 tanks! Well they were not able to boast about it. They lost 120 tank in Chawinda hence the place is known as the graveyard of Indian Tanks!


1965 war

Courtesy: Dost Pakistan

What we lacked in technology, we compensated with raw passion to bleed for our country, soldiers such as M. M. Alam and Maqbool Hussain made the victory possible. We defeated the force double in numbers and their soldiers were captured in the open field. As the post WW II was all about air-warfare, even though it was not a clean sweep, it was a successive achievement and the credit goes to Pakistan Air Force. Pakistan was victorious on ground, in the sea, and in skies too!


Ramsha Hussain
Ramsha Hussain
 
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Major General Agha Muhammad Yahya Khan, GOC of a division, explains a situation to Field Marshal Muhammad Ayub Khan during one of his visits to the forward areas. Also in the picture are Army C-in-C General Muhammad Musa (extreme left) and C-in-C Pakistan Air Force Air Marshal M. Nur Khan (third from right).
 
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1965 War – Did Pakistan Really Win? Let’s Find Out

By
Ramsha Hussain

September 5, 2018

View attachment 733544

Courtesy: Peace Pak

We are celebrating 53rd Defence Day with the slogan of “Humain Pyar Hai Pakistan Se!” The 1965 war also known as the Indo-Pak war is still controversial. 1965 war was the second war over the status of Jammu and Kashmir between India and Pakistan. The outcome of the war and victory status is still the topic of discussion. India stated that they won the war while Pakistan’s claims are strikingly different. Here are some facts that will improve your insight about the 1965 wars! So let’s begin this journey in the history.


View attachment 733543

Courtesy: Global Village Space


Facts And Figures Because Facts Don’t Lie!


  1. India had the infantry of 700,000, 720 tanks and 700+ aircraft. Pakistan had 260,000 infantry, 756 tanks and 280 aircraft .
  2. 8200 Indian soldiers were killed or captured whereas Pakistan’s loss was 5259 men.
  3. India lost 110 aircraft while Pakistan lost 43 aircraft.
  4. Pakistan defended when war came to its international boundary. It made Pakistan believe that it can defend itself the country 6 times more populous and occupy 7th largest area in the world.
  5. The war was well played on ground and air field! The initial achievement of Indian Army include Battle of Asal Uttar and Phillora, but don’t underestimate the Battle of Chawinda, still known as “The Graveyard of Indian Tanks”.
View attachment 733542

Courtesy: Dawn


The Tea That Was Never Served!

Indian Army planned to drink in Lahore Gymkhana! Gen. J N Choudhary of India said. “Tomorrow we will drink in Lahore Gymkhana.” The Times of India’s editorial wrote,






1965 War



Courtesy: Story Of Pakistan


Land, Water And Sky Was On Fire!

The war was not merely fought on land, with the usual rivalry, the bar of standards was high. Pakistan Army, Navy and Airforce participated in the war. The statement is also true for India, and Pakistan defeated India on all three fronts. So we can say it was the hat-trick of Indian defeat!


1965 war - Pakistan Airforce


Courtesy: Geo TV



International Media Claimed That Pakistan Army Held Their Own

An interesting opinion was provided by Donald Seaman for Daily Express. On 24th September, 1965 he stated that,



View attachment 733541

Courtesy: Haq’s Musings

Battle of Chawinda – The Largest Tank Battle since WWII

Chawinda is known as the “Graveyard of Indian Tanks”. 1965 war is also known as the largest tank battle since World War II. The nearest city to Chawinda is Sialkot and the Indian Army was planning to set it as a base. Afterall they had 230 tanks while Pakistan had merely 132 tanks! Well they were not able to boast about it. They lost 120 tank in Chawinda hence the place is known as the graveyard of Indian Tanks!


1965 war

Courtesy: Dost Pakistan

What we lacked in technology, we compensated with raw passion to bleed for our country, soldiers such as M. M. Alam and Maqbool Hussain made the victory possible. We defeated the force double in numbers and their soldiers were captured in the open field. As the post WW II was all about air-warfare, even though it was not a clean sweep, it was a successive achievement and the credit goes to Pakistan Air Force. Pakistan was victorious on ground, in the sea, and in skies too!


Ramsha Hussain
Ramsha Hussain


We learned a lot from 1965 war yes we defended Pakistan and achieved the objective but we shall not forget that Sialkot sector and other sectors were left unattended thinking india will not invade from there..

Second one was giving away a clear victory so that general sahbs friend can be famous as a victor but sadly General sahbs friend f*cked the whole operation up.. 😑
Those were the days when our media spoke the language of national interest and not lifafas
 
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For such a large military, India sure did have a shockingly low amount of tanks compared to 700,000 infantry.
 
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Pakistan started the war in hopes of conquering Kashmir once and for all, but then their generals played politics in the middle, gave India enough time to prepare a counter-attack elsewhere. Our claim of victory comes from the fact that the invaders (PA) didn't achieve their objective and negotiated their way out with no change along LOC. The operation Giblitar failed to achieve its objective in all except one of the ten sectors it infiltrated, except in Rajouri all other places Kashmiri locals provided critical Intel to Indian forces about the presence of PA regulars.

If counting the losses and casualties was how you decide winners in war, the World war would've been won by the Axis powers.
 
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Had only operation gibralter gone smoothe half of kashmir would be in our hands and would have caused troop imbalance.
Kashmiris informed Indian Army about presence of Pakistani soldiers in IOK. Then Op Grand Slam was launched and after that Indian invaded Pakistan but failed miserably even after deploying its Army, AIr Force and Navy against Pakistan.
 
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Well Pakistan had a goal of capturing Kashmir and couldn't achieve it right?, so it's either Pakistan lost or basically no one won. We were only retaliating to Pakistani aggression.
 
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A troop of Sherman tanks from the Indian 3ʳᵈ (I) Armoured Squadron, seized by the Pakistani 18ᵗʰ Punjab, on 21/09/65, while recapturing Dali in the Thar Desert, from elements of the 5ᵗʰ Maratha Light Infantry and 17ᵗʰ Madras.

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Pakistan started the war in hopes of conquering Kashmir once and for all, but then their generals played politics in the middle, gave India enough time to prepare a counter-attack elsewhere. Our claim of victory comes from the fact that the invaders (PA) didn't achieve their objective and negotiated their way out with no change along LOC. The operation Giblitar failed to achieve its objective in all except one of the ten sectors it infiltrated, except in Rajouri all other places Kashmiri locals provided critical Intel to Indian forces about the presence of PA regulars.

If counting the losses and casualties was how you decide winners in war, the World war would've been won by the Axis powers.


Yes. The tecnical definition of victory is the 'acheivement of the aim'. If that is acheived then you have won the war, if not you haven't. casualties are irrelevant.
 
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1965 War – Did Pakistan Really Win? Let’s Find Out

By
Ramsha Hussain

September 5, 2018

View attachment 733544

Courtesy: Peace Pak

We are celebrating 53rd Defence Day with the slogan of “Humain Pyar Hai Pakistan Se!” The 1965 war also known as the Indo-Pak war is still controversial. 1965 war was the second war over the status of Jammu and Kashmir between India and Pakistan. The outcome of the war and victory status is still the topic of discussion. India stated that they won the war while Pakistan’s claims are strikingly different. Here are some facts that will improve your insight about the 1965 wars! So let’s begin this journey in the history.


View attachment 733543

Courtesy: Global Village Space


Facts And Figures Because Facts Don’t Lie!


  1. India had the infantry of 700,000, 720 tanks and 700+ aircraft. Pakistan had 260,000 infantry, 756 tanks and 280 aircraft .
  2. 8200 Indian soldiers were killed or captured whereas Pakistan’s loss was 5259 men.
  3. India lost 110 aircraft while Pakistan lost 43 aircraft.
  4. Pakistan defended when war came to its international boundary. It made Pakistan believe that it can defend itself the country 6 times more populous and occupy 7th largest area in the world.
  5. The war was well played on ground and air field! The initial achievement of Indian Army include Battle of Asal Uttar and Phillora, but don’t underestimate the Battle of Chawinda, still known as “The Graveyard of Indian Tanks”.
View attachment 733542

Courtesy: Dawn


The Tea That Was Never Served!

Indian Army planned to drink in Lahore Gymkhana! Gen. J N Choudhary of India said. “Tomorrow we will drink in Lahore Gymkhana.” The Times of India’s editorial wrote,






1965 War



Courtesy: Story Of Pakistan


Land, Water And Sky Was On Fire!

The war was not merely fought on land, with the usual rivalry, the bar of standards was high. Pakistan Army, Navy and Airforce participated in the war. The statement is also true for India, and Pakistan defeated India on all three fronts. So we can say it was the hat-trick of Indian defeat!


1965 war - Pakistan Airforce


Courtesy: Geo TV



International Media Claimed That Pakistan Army Held Their Own

An interesting opinion was provided by Donald Seaman for Daily Express. On 24th September, 1965 he stated that,



View attachment 733541

Courtesy: Haq’s Musings

Battle of Chawinda – The Largest Tank Battle since WWII

Chawinda is known as the “Graveyard of Indian Tanks”. 1965 war is also known as the largest tank battle since World War II. The nearest city to Chawinda is Sialkot and the Indian Army was planning to set it as a base. Afterall they had 230 tanks while Pakistan had merely 132 tanks! Well they were not able to boast about it. They lost 120 tank in Chawinda hence the place is known as the graveyard of Indian Tanks!


1965 war

Courtesy: Dost Pakistan

What we lacked in technology, we compensated with raw passion to bleed for our country, soldiers such as M. M. Alam and Maqbool Hussain made the victory possible. We defeated the force double in numbers and their soldiers were captured in the open field. As the post WW II was all about air-warfare, even though it was not a clean sweep, it was a successive achievement and the credit goes to Pakistan Air Force. Pakistan was victorious on ground, in the sea, and in skies too!


Ramsha Hussain
Ramsha Hussain
Even then it was all about TEA
 
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