1960 Chinese map depicted Senkakus as Japanese territory

[Minjitta]

1960 Chinese map depicted Senkakus as Japanese territory: Gemba
TOKYO, Oct. 10, Kyodo

Japanese Foreign Minister Koichiro Gemba on Wednesday rebutted Chinese claims to the Japanese-administered Senkaku Islands in the East China Sea, noting that a Chinese map published in 1960 depicted the islet group as Japanese territory.

The territorial dispute, which has intensified since the Japanese government purchased three of the five main islands in the group from a Japanese owner roughly a month ago, has shown no sign of abating as neither side appears willing to shift its position.

At a news conference, Gemba reiterated that China, which calls the group Diaoyu, began asserting its territorial sovereignty over the islands in the 1970s, suggesting that China previously had not viewed the group as part of its territory.

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As further proof, Gemba cited a letter of appreciation sent to a Japanese individual from the then consul of the Republic of China in Nagasaki in 1920 that described the islands as the "Senkaku Islands, Yaeyama District, Okinawa Prefecture."

The Chinese map of the world showed the disputed islands as part of Japan, naming them as the "Senkaku Islands" and the largest of the five main islands as "Uotsuri Island," according to information on the Japanese Foreign Ministry's website.

At the news conference, Gemba also said Tokyo's position over the dispute is unwavering, adding, "We can't concede what we can't concede."

But he expressed readiness to explore "what is possible," noting the importance of calming the tensions between the two countries in a peaceful manner.

China claims that the islands have been part of its territory since ancient times and that Japan "stole" the islands from China in 1895 at the end of the Sino-Japanese War.

==Kyodo
1960 Chinese map depicted Senkakus as Japanese territory: Gemba | Kyodo News

Guess China to prove this map is invalid, other wise things going well for Japan.

 

[Jade]

The end point is China is not going to get Senkakus. Japan is not some banana republic. It is the world's third largest economy with one of the world's most potent armed forces

 

[帅的一匹]

It is called Diaoyu Island, which belongs to china ever and forever. Period

 

[ahfatzia]

I have to laugh at the OP using Japanese sources to post such claims. Does anyone expecting them to show maps that prove China's sovereignty?

Anyway China never have her CMS near the disputed islands before the recent flareups and now she has quite a number of them patrolling within the 12nm of the islands regularly. Banana republic or not Japan will never administer the islands alone again.

 

[JayAtl]

I have to laugh at the OP using Japanese sources to post such claims. Does anyone expecting them to show maps that prove China's sovereignty?

Anyway China never have her CMS near the disputed islands before the recent flareups and now she has quite a number of them patrolling within the 12nm of the islands regularly. Banana republic or not Japan will never administer the islands alone again.

let's see a free country showing proof is laughable but a state run media propaganda rule map's are spot on. let's see who gets the last laugh...

 

[Jade]

I have to laugh at the OP using Japanese sources to post such claims. Does anyone expecting them to show maps that prove China's sovereignty?

Anyway China never have her CMS near the disputed islands before the recent flareups and now she has quite a number of them patrolling within the 12nm of the islands regularly. Banana republic or not Japan will never administer the islands alone again.

We Indians would like China to engage with Japan...good for us.

 

[帅的一匹]

let's see a free country showing proof is laughable but a state run media propaganda rule map's are spot on. let's see who gets the last laugh...

You just force yourself live in denial and always ignore the pros China facts.

 

[ahfatzia]

We Indians would like China to engage with Japan...good for us.

That's not a good attitude for a big and dignify nation to take. Such a country should do all within it power to mediate and seek solutions to all its neighbors disputes.

 

[Jade]

That's not a good attitude for a big and dignify nation to take. Such a country should do all within it power to mediate and seek solutions to all its neighbors disputes.

That is utopia. But you know that world politics does not work that way. Anyway, India would remain neutral in China Japan matters. Both countries are very important for India.

 

[Minjitta]

I have to laugh at the OP using Japanese sources to post such claims. Does anyone expecting them to show maps that prove China's sovereignty?

Anyway China never have her CMS near the disputed islands before the recent flareups and now she has quite a number of them patrolling within the 12nm of the islands regularly. Banana republic or not Japan will never administer the islands alone again.

It's a Chinese map and it show the Senkakus island belong to Japan that's the burden proof.

 

[OrionHunter]

Oh yeah! That clearly shows it belongs to Japan!

Case closed. Next....

 

[Jade]

It comes from your inferior complexity, really discomposing.

No, it is called geo politics.

Anyway, Japan is one of the largest investor in Chinese economy. With tensions flaring up, Japan will look for alternative investment destinations.

 

[Minjitta]

That is utopia. But you know that world politics does not work that way. Anyway, India would remain neutral in China Japan matters. Both countries are very important for India.

India have take side, because if Big IF China can take Japan then all Asian will fall to China that's include India, China are thr aggressor always always will be, have you heard "One For All, All For One"

 

[ahfatzia]

A Qing dynasty volume with a yellowed title page in bold, black characters from the 1760s about Ryukyuan students sits on display in a glass case at the Imperial College in Beijing on Wednesday. Chinese scholars say that the 18th century book is evidence that the Diaoyu Islands are part of China's territory. Photo: AFP

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In 1893, the Empress Dowager Cixi granted the Diaoyu Islands to Sheng Xuanhuai who was the Chief Minister of the Court of Imperial sacrifices at that time. Being also a businessman in the pharmaceutical sector, he was keen on harvesting the plant “statice arbuscula” on the islands. The Chinese used these herbs to manufacture pills to prevent high blood pressure and relieve pain because of dampness. Being thrilled about the effectiveness of the pills the Dowager Cixi awarded three of the disputed islands to the Chinese pharmacologist.251 This decree carried the imperial seal thereby making it official: “The medical pills submitted by Sheng Xuanhuai have proved to be very effective. The herbs used in making the pills are said to have been collected from the small island of Diaoyutai, beyond the seas of Taiwan. It has come to my knowledge that the said official’s family has maintained for generations pharmacies offering free treatment and herbs to destitute patients. This is really most commendable. The three islands of Diaoyutai, Huangwei Yu, and Chiwei yu are hereby ordered to be awarded to Sheng Xuanhuai as his property for the purpose of collecting medicinal herbs. Seal of Queen Mother Cixi

By virtue of this imperial act the three mentioned islands could have become Chinese “property”. At least the Qing Dynasty recorded officially the existence of the islands.



Until the 1894, the Japanese could not make any progress regarding the incorporation of the islands. In a letter of response to the Director of the Prefecture Administration Bureau of the Ministry of Home Affairs Egi Kazuyuki the Okinawa Prefecture Governor stated that no investigation had been carried out so far on the islands. In his request, Mr. Kazuyuki wondered as well whether there was evidence such as old records or folklore that demonstrate the islands belong to our country. The answer of the Okinawa Prefecture was the following:
“…there exist no old records related to the said islands or any transcribed evidence or folklore and legends demonstrating that the islands belong to our territory”
This secret letter conveys a different idea of what is the official Japanese contention published on the web page of the Japanese Foreign Ministry

* The advent of the Sino-Japanese War was instrumental for the Japanese government regarding the incorporation of the Senkaku Islands. The long awaited “suitable moment” had finally arrived. After the outbreak of the war on August 1rst, 1894, China’s military defeat enabled the Japanese Tenno to impose harsh peace condition upon the struggling Qing Dynasty. China lost its territory in Taiwan and on the Liaodong peninsula.

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The first one is a documented proof and the second one is a third party's opinion. I can show you hundred proofs from the Chinese side if there's a need.

 

[Jade]

India have take side, because if Big IF China can take Japan then all Asian will fall to China that's include India, China are thr aggressor always always will be, have you heard "One For All, All For One"

I guess there is going to no war between China and Japan. Although, there may be tensed relationship between China and Japan unless this issue is resolved.

And, you forget US in the whole equation. US is much bigger Asian player than China ever is.