16th December 1971: From East Pakistan to Bangladesh

[third eye]

Somewhere down the line Pak too I feel has realised that seperation from its Eastern wing was the right thing to have happened like India to my mind should realise that partition was the right & logical thing to have happened.

Provided we can move on and accept realities...

 

[Bhairava]

Once the WOT is over, there will be no suicide bombings in Pakistan. There were no suicide bombings in Pakistan pre-9/11.

I doubt if Pakistan will ever go to pre-9/11 days.

 

[raavan]

how many 1971 war related threads do we need to get the point accross.....honestly people get over it

 

[foxbat]

Bangladesh has not prospered. After independence, Sheikh Mujib with his socialist policies totally destroyed the country from top to bottom. All industries, universities, etc. were destroyed due to his and his party's mismanagement and corruption. Of course, after his rapist nephew raped some wife of a army officer Sheikh Mujib, his rapist nephew and all his family was killed in a coup by that officer.

Of course on the positive side we don't have suicide bombs exploding every day, and on that front we're better than Pakistan. But we now import machines from Pakistan, which we used to make ourselves when we were East Pakistan. sad situation.

But economically and on most HDI indicators, BD is performing better than Pakistan today.. Isnt it?

 

[niaz]

Cessation of Bangla Dash was a great shock to me and the wounds are still raw. The reasons are primarily two.

Having being born in 1943 I virtually grew up with Pakistan. I always considered East Pakistani Bengalis as my brothers and compatriots. It felt as if I lost half of my home in 1971 and I still feel a pang of disappointment. Feelings die hard and to this day I have a soft spot for the Bangla Deshis.

Secondly, I was brought up on Two Nation Theory and Muslim brotherhood. The realization that this was no longer the case sent a shock and I had to completely change my thinking process. In way I grew up and realized that having the same religion does not mean that we are the same nation. Language and ethnic considerations can outweigh when it comes to nation building. Alas this still reality has not dawned on many of my countrymen to this day.

 

[monitor]

how many 1971 war related threads do we need to get the point accross.....honestly people get over it

Moderator look seriously in to this matter, please make a sub section in Military history section for All the 1971 matter.Thanks

 

[Syed Naved]

Cessation of Bangla Dash was a great shock to me and the wounds are still raw. The reasons are primarily two.

Having being born in 1943 I virtually grew up with Pakistan. I always considered East Pakistani Bengalis as my brothers and compatriots. It felt as if I lost half of my home in 1971 and I still feel a pang of disappointment. Feelings die hard and to this day I have a soft spot for the Bangla Deshis.

Secondly, I was brought up on Two Nation Theory and Muslim brotherhood. The realization that this was no longer the case sent a shock and I had to completely change my thinking process. In way I grew up and realized that having the same religion does not mean that we are the same nation. Language and ethnic considerations can outweigh when it comes to nation building. Alas this still reality has not dawned on many of my countrymen to this day.

Cessation of eastern wing is the most painful thing of history.if today two wing were united ,thn pakistan hi hota sab se powerful,united islamic country both in size and power. alas ! that it took place !! and for that indian conspiracy,politicians ediotic roll & some traitor like mujib is responsible..but still we can maintain warm brotherly relation by forgettin the past

 

[Luffy 500]

Cessation of eastern wing is the most painful thing of history.if today two wing were united ,thn pakistan hi hota sab se powerful,united islamic country both in size and power. alas ! that it took place !! and for that indian conspiracy,politicians ediotic roll & some traitor like mujib is responsible..but still we can maintain warm brotherly relation by forgettin the past

I don't think we can maintain a good relation as long as Indian stooge hasina is in power. She & her Awami league stands in the way of Bangladeshi's prosperity. Our country is going through a very volatile phase right now.

 

[Uchiha]

I doubt if Pakistan will ever go to pre-9/11 days.

*America/NATO
(becuase we dont give a damn, just caught in the crossfire)

 

[PlanetSoldier]

you emotional fool ,learn to wide your heart.Its my decission what will i say or not,and yes pakistan devided peoples like you.one can go against martial law,govt ,administration not against country.thats why you have no right to teach me any lesson.

Sir Syed Naved, the true Arabian horse breed in Bangla, you missed to add something in your longer aristocratic chain history of your family background that is "the noble role of your family" during 71. Would you mind telling that freely to us or we automatically assume that your family members were those bunch of shits who should have been kicked out of this land but for Sheikh Mujib's wrong decision still living happily in Bangla ?

 

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[Md Akmal]

It was actually, your own reative Khaja Nazimuddin who opposed the idea of Independend secular Bengal. He was too conservative, too hatefull towards Hindu. He even opposed the inclusion of Tripura when the queen of Tripura waited 15 days in Dhaka for a positive nod from Mr. Nazimuddin. Later she gone back and joined India.

@ The Queen of Tripura wanted to meet Jinnah. As because it was only Jinnah who could give the final decision.

@ At that critical period the Chief of Army was a British soldiers. Moreso most of the Commanders and decision makers in the army were British.

@ At that time strenght of East Pakistan Army was not even a Brigade. I read in 1947 just after our independence there was only one Punjab Regiment stationed at Eastern Wing. We had one skeleton 20 Division stationed at Old High Court Building. General Ayub Khan has just being posted as a new General Officer Commanding Eastern Wing but in the true sense he has nothing in his hand.

@ Md Ali Jinnah was busy with the tribal force of NWFP in order to infiltrate in Kashmir. Under these circumstance a newly born country with such a megre force cannot take so much of risk. With this one Punjab Regiment of Force supported by Bengal scouts Pakistan could capture Rangamati (CHT) once elements of Congress hosted the Indian flag at Rangamati on 14/15 August 1947.

@ We have a tendency to blame Jinnah and Pakistan for our every deeds. Even after getting our independence we are blaming Pakistan.

 

[PlanetSoldier]

Consider yourself lucky as you are a student of Bangladesh Medical College where students politics is not active otherwise both Chhatradal and Chhatraleague both would have Chopped your hands off. Anyway on your facebook profile you wrote your political view is DAB. This silly guy is a prominent DAB activist and we are gonna meet very soon.....

What is DAB Farhan?

 

[junaid1]

Yahya Khan ,a drunken bastard was responsible for separation of east pakistan .he should burn in hell

Happy for bangalis ,they got their identity .

 

[Md Akmal]

Yahya Khan ,a drunken bastard was responsible for separation of east pakistan .he should burn in hell

Happy for bangalis ,they got their identity .

My Memories of United Pakistan-Part-0ne


@ Why you are blaming him alone, Bhutto was also responsible for a greater extend. As per my assessment Yahya did the following mistake:

1. Ayub did not handed over power to Yahya peacefully rather it was a silent military coup. During that period I was at Rawalpindi near GHQ, Margella Barracks though I was kid.

2. What I realized once Ayub was shot at Peshawar soon People's Party came out on the street. Bengalees in East Pakistan lately realised and they also started agitating against Ayub. I remember, I saw one " Jalush" which started from our college on the "Mal Road" and hit at the Continental Hotel. All the glasses of the hotel were broken. On the way all street light were broken. That was the first "Jalush" I saw for the first time in my life. The slogan was some thing, " Ayub ***** Hai, Hai ". In fact in this particular day we were supposed to take "Tika" (some sort of anti-viral injection). We were the line but suddenly it stopped some senior student came from the college and said not to take the injection as it is being planted to kill all students by Ayub. All medicines of the compounder were broken. Soon , Ayub fell sick and he was sick for a month. During this 30 days he was completely isolated from the media and TV. Soon he went for treatment in UK and after some days he came back fresh. But by this time "Kella Fete". His grip on the administration and Army was lost. During the long agitation many people were killed. During those bad days no second politician(Convention Muslim Leaque) was available to lead the nation. The young cadres of Butto and Mujib were too strong and within a short spun of time everywhere they had a strong grip.

2. So, Yahya captured power and declared Martial Law. He also abrogate the constitution of 1962. He should have restored the constitution of 1956.

3. Yahya immediately sacked some 500 central CSP officers believed to be supporter of Ayub. Probably he also frozen the bank accounts of 22 families(industrial elites).

4. Yahya at once freezes the central fund of Convention Muslim Leaque. During those days ML was divided into 3 groups. Counsil Muslim Leaque, Convention Muslim Leaque and Qaumi Muslim Leaque. Yahya and its intelligence group wanted these Muslim Leaques to remain devited so that they donnot form majority and come to power. He was afraid of ML as they came to power by force. Other pro-Pakistani political parties(rightist) like Pakistan Democratic Party, Nijame Islami, and Jammat-i-Islami were also not united. ( May continue if public wants)