155mm Panter Howitzer

[fatman17]

Good news colleagues,
according to ISPR web-site, Turkey and Pakistan have signed a MoU for the co-production of 155mm Panther Howitzer with a range of 40KM. the keys for the 1st example were handed over to Army School of Artillery recently.

 

[echo 1]

Funny I did not here anything about it do you have a wet-sight or something

 

[EagleEyes]

Chief of Logistics Staff Turkish Armed Forces Lieutenant General Hulusi AKAR and Lieutenant General Ejaz Ahmed Bokshi, Director General Weapon & Equipment and others group photographed on the eve of handing over ceremony of 155 mm Howitzer Panther Gun to Pakistan Army at School of Artillery Nowshera (06-9-2007), Photo ISPR.

Source: ISPR Press Release - 5 Mar 2007

 

[echo 1]

So does that mean that there is a posibility that Pakistan might buy the Panther Howitzer

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Maybe I missed it, but I thought the press release only spoke of a vague "MOU on defence production and cooperation"; nothing specifically about co-producing the howitzer.

 

[EagleEyes]

I think they are evaluating it right now, and if they like it. May be they will get it.

 

[EagleEyes]

As you can see its only in initial stages, even in Turkey.

Objective: Initiated as an R&D Programme of Land Forces Command under the name “Panther” the project is supported by MKEK (ÇelikSan, ÇanSaş, MakSan), together with the 1011th and 1013th Ordnance Main Depot Commands. The 155 mm/52 Cal Towed Howitzer is expected to replace the 203 mm Howitzers and 115 mm M114 Towed Howitzers, as the Corps General Support Artillery System. With 2 prototypes already produced and tested, the project is at the series production stage.

Project Model: Indigenous Development

Prime Contractor: MKEK (ÇelikSan, ÇanSAŞ, MakSan)
155 mm Turkish Towed Howitzer Prototype Production

 

[fatman17]

the army will never provide full details of what programs they are involved in, only "vague" ideas.
since only 2 prototypes were produced and 1 has been handed over to pak army school of artillery and furthermore, the head of the turkish armed forces logistics and procurement comes to pakistan to hand it over means more than just "vague moU" being signed. army needs to increase its inventory of 155mm guns and needs to do it in a cost-effective manner. the us guns in our inventory are good but expensive.

 

[HAIDER]

Turkey unveils towed howitzer with 40km range
LALE SARIIBRAHIMOGLU
JDW Correspondent
Ankara

Turkey's state-owned Machines and Chemical Industry Board (MKEK) has unveiled the prototype of a 155mm/52-cal towed howitzer that has a range of 40km. The Turkish Land Forces Command (TLFC) disclosed last year that it expected to field two locally-produced 155mm/52-cal systems, one towed and one self-propelled, later this decade (Jane's Defence Weekly 13 October). According to TLFC sources, MKEK received assistance from Singapore Technologies Kinetics (previously known as Ordnance Development and Engineering of Singapore) in the development of the new towed weapon.

The Turkish weapon is similar to the Singaporean 155mm/52-cal FH2000 that entered service with the Singapore Armed Forces in the mid-1990s and has since been offered for export. Serial production of the new howitzer will start soon, said MKEK officials. These will replace some of the TFLC's 500-plus 155mm M114 howitzers, which have a range of only 14.6km firing standard high-explosive projectiles. Late last year Turkey unveiled a prototype self-propelled howitzer (SPH), designated SP2000, equipped with a 155mm/39-cal barrel. This built on experience gained by MKEK in the modernisation of elderly US-supplied 105mm M52 and 155mm M44 SPHs. A second SP2000 equipped with a 155mm/52-cal barrel is due for completion this year.

Industry sources suggest that the SP2000 will not meet the army's specifications and that Turkey is seeking foreign assistance with the programme. The TLFC had hoped to acquire the Krauss-Maffei Wegmann 155mm/52-cal PzH 2000 self-propelled artillery system. However, the German government will not allow export of the weapon or subsystems to Turkey. Following preliminary talks between Turkish and Republic of Korean (RoK) officials earlier this year about the scope for defence industry co-operation between the two countries, the TLFC is likely to consider the new Samsung Aerospace Industries 155mm/52-cal K9 Thunder for its SPH requirement (JDW 29 March). The K9 is now in quantity production for the RoK Army.
Turkey unveils towed howitzer with 40km range - Jane's Defence News

 

[fatman17]

u can bet your bottom-dollar the panther will enter pak army service. HIT has already signed agreement to produce 155mm munitions with Rok.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Webby and fatman, Thx for your clarifications.

I guess this is a case of "Akalmand kay liye Isharay Kaafi hain".

 

[voiceofaa]

Good news colleagues,
according to ISPR web-site, Turkey and Pakistan have signed a MoU for the co-production of 155mm Panther Howitzer with a range of 40KM. the keys for the 1st example were handed over to Army School of Artillery recently.

yes i heared this few days back

 

[HAIDER]

T 155 Panter
Country: Türkiye
Producer : MKE

Caliber 155 mm
Weight 18t
Barrel length 52 kal
Length 11,6 m
Height 2,6 m
Width 3,3 m
Elevation -3º +65º
Ammunition weight 43 kg HE
Round speed at firing: 564 m/sec
Maximum range 24 km 40 km (ERFB rounds)
Rate of fire 9 rounds/minute
Engine: 150 hp diesel
Maximum speed 80 km/H
Number of personal 5

Here the data for the singaporean gun:

Specifications
Weight 13,200 kg
Length 12.90 m (firing)
Barrel length 52L (8 m)
Width 9.73 m (firing)
Crew 6
Caliber 155 mm
Breech Semi-automatic Interrupted screw with electronic rammer
Carriage 6 wheeled split trail
Elevation +70/-3
Traverse +30/-30
Rate of fire 6 rounds per minute for 3 minutes
2 rounds per minute for 30 minutes
Effective range 19 km (with M107)
Maximum range 40 km (with ERFB BB round)
Engine Air-cooled turbo charged diesel
75 hp
Speed 10 km/h

 

[kidwaibhai]

this is nice this will update our artillary arsenal because i really think that we were really laking in this department.

 

[IceCold]

Pakistan army has a good experience with the artillary as during the kargil war, indians acknowlege this fact that majority of their losses were due to the artillary used by pakistan where the indians lacked. Upgrading it to 155mm will defenitely boost us up. I think we should sign for a possible induction and manufacturing it in pakistan.