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14 dead in shooting at San Bernardino, Calif., center for disabled; 3 suspects on loose

Here is another detail that is raising questions

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It's a bit unusual to see handcuffs on the dead body of an individual whom we were told died under a "hail of bullets" , also the larger pool of blood is on the right side and not directly under the body , was this person handcuffed , repositioned and shot again ?
 
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Body was definitely repositioned....
Whats with hand cuffs??.
Was he injured than arrested and than died?
Than why so much blood on right side of body?
 
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My take is he collapsed where pool of blood is he was turned face handcuffed but he died before they can stop bleeding
 
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A majority of the events have involved financing of terrorist operations overseas. Thus far, only a handful of attempts at terrorist attacks within the US have been foiled. There are no thousands of jihadis in secret prisons, both being figments of your imagination here. There are known sympathizers and pockets of extremists, but that is not confined to Islam either. The FBI tracks hundreds of such organizations and individuals.



This tumor is so widely metastatic that it will not easy to cut out so simply this time.


LOL..American muslims aren't some special one's to be exempt and stay away from radicalization. .The agencies are quite active resulting in not many terrorist incidents.

"While it’s true fewer American Muslims are joining ISIS abroad, hold the applause. More are staying at home and plotting terrorist attacks here."
900 ‘homegrown’ ISIS cases being investigated in US: FBI | New York Post


Over 60 isis affiliated terrorist attacks prevented by FBI last year alone.

Three days after four marines and a sailor were killed by a gunman with Middle Eastern roots and a father who was once on the terrorism watch list, the chairman of the House homeland security committee heralded US successes against “over 60” would-be terrorist attacks by “Isis followers” in the last year.
US missed Chattanooga attack but foiled 'over 60' Isis-linked plots: security chair | US news | The Guardian

The less number of terrorist attacks in the US is credited to the pro active work of the US's agencies and not for the lack of jihadis.
 
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When extremist Pakistanis are barred from doing terrorism in Pakistan, they start doing it in America
 
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LOL..American muslims aren't some special one's to be exempt and stay away from radicalization. .The agencies are quite active resulting in not many terrorist incidents.

"While it’s true fewer American Muslims are joining ISIS abroad, hold the applause. More are staying at home and plotting terrorist attacks here."
900 ‘homegrown’ ISIS cases being investigated in US: FBI | New York Post


Over 60 isis affiliated terrorist attacks prevented by FBI last year alone.



The less number of terrorist attacks in the US is credited to the pro active work of the US's agencies and not for the lack of jihadis.

The LEOs are doing a splendid job in preventing attacks. Of course, this is an ongoing effort and can never be 100% successful, but it is being made as secure as it possibly can be, with continuous improvements in light of new information.
 
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Here's some more info on the TERRORISTS.


Female attacker from DG Khan praised Da’ish chief

By Tariq Ismaeel / Agencies
Published: December 5, 201


DG KHAN / WASHINGTON / SAN BERNARDINO:
Investigators believe that the female shooter involved in Wednesday’s deadly rampage in California, had pledged allegiance to Da’ish (Islamic State) group leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in a Facebook post on an alias account.

One US official familiar with the investigation said Tashfeen Malik, 27, had posted on a Facebook account under a different name just as the attack was going on. The officials did not explain how they knew Malik was responsible for the post, CNN reported.

Malik and her American-born husband, Syed Rizwan Farook, had burst into a year-end party in San Bernardino, California on Wednesday afternoon and opened fire on a roomful of Farook’s co-workers, killing 14 and wounding 21.

David Bowdich, assistant director of the FBI’s Los Angeles office, announced at a press conference on Friday morning that they were investigating the mass shooting as an “act of terrorism” after details of Malik’s deleted Facebook post came to light.

A US official told the Associated Press on the condition of anonymity that Malik had expressed “admiration” for Baghdadi in the Facebook post. A Facebook executive said that the post was made at the same time the first calls to police were made about the attack.

Meanwhile, Malik’s relatives in her native district of Layyah said that they have been questioned by Pakistani security officials in connection with the attack.

Tashfeen hailed from DG Khan

Malik hailed from Taunsa tehsil in DG Khan district of Punjab but had lived much of her life in Saudi Arabia.


Malik was born to Haji Gulzar Ahmed Malik, patron of a prosperous Seraiki-speaking family in Vehoa city, in DG Khan. She has two sisters and two brothers and was related to former provincial minister Ahmed Ali Aulak.

Haji Gulzar had moved from his native city to Layyah for a short while before taking his family to Rawalpindi as he pursued his business. That pursuit took Haji Gulzar to Riyadh in Saudi Arabia almost 25 years ago.

However, with educational opportunities limited for non-residents in Saudi Arabia, Haji Gulzar sent his daughters to Pakistan to complete their higher studies. Following in her older sister’s footsteps, Malik arrived in Pakistan to study pharmacy at the Bahauddin Zakaria University.

Her maternal uncle told The Express Tribune that she came back around five to six years ago. Like her sister, she completed her D-Pharm with a 74.88 percentage.


After completing her studies, Malik returned to Saudi Arabia.

Farook was born in an Urdu-speaking household in Illinois to Syed and Rafia Farook. In 2013 Farook visited Saudi Arabia to perform Hajj.

After he met Malik apparently through an online matrimonial service, Rizwan returned to Saudi Arabia to meet her family.

The two married and moved to the US where they had a six-month-old baby.

One of Malik’s uncles, Javed Rabbani, said her father, Haji Gulzar, had changed during their time in Saudi Arabia. “When relatives visited him, they would come back and tell us how conservative and hard-line he had become,” Rabbani said.

Her maternal uncle disclosed that both Malik and Farook were religiously inclined.


Pakistan condemns attack

The Pakistan embassy in Washington DC on Friday condemned the attack and offered condolences to families of the victims.

“It is hoped that the investigations would lead the authorities to the perpetrators of this act to justice sooner,” it said in a statement.

Meanwhile, security officials have started inquiring about Malik with her relatives in DG Khan questioned.
 
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Malik hailed from Taunsa tehsil in DG Khan district of Punjab but had lived much of her life in Saudi Arabia.


Malik was born to Haji Gulzar Ahmed Malik, patron of a prosperous Seraiki-speaking family in Vehoa city, in DG Khan. She has two sisters and two brothers and was related to former provincial minister Ahmed Ali Aulak.

Haji Gulzar had moved from his native city to Layyah for a short while before taking his family to Rawalpindi as he pursued his business. That pursuit took Haji Gulzar to Riyadh in Saudi Arabia almost 25 years ago.

However, with educational opportunities limited for non-residents in Saudi Arabia, Haji Gulzar sent his daughters to Pakistan to complete their higher studies. Following in her older sister’s footsteps, Malik arrived in Pakistan to study pharmacy at the Bahauddin Zakaria University.

The connections to Pakistan raise deep implications that will have far-reaching effects.
 
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Generalisation is never fine, but we should welcome all criticism. Failure to identify and speak against the problem in it's early stage will land us in the same catch 22 situation Islam is today.

I agree 100%. But isn't it hypocrisy when all the BJP/RSS supporters are bad when 1 guy commits any crime or 1 random fellow sprouts some rubbish from his mouth?

Why doesn't then Owaisi represents all of Congress or UPA (His party was part of Congress till 2012). Or for that matter that Imran Masood guy (Congress MLA) who said we will cut up Modi into pieces?

Boston bombers were Chechen.



The police could not sue you - that would be civil matter. They could charge him with interfering with an investigation, or disturbing a crime scene, or destruction of evidence, or the like - all crimes. But suing him would be out.

You are correct. I meant this one and not Boston

Faisal Shahzad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

PS: My point still stands. Quote me 1 Indian convicted of terrorism outside India in recent memory.....
 
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How exactly is viewing someone working long hours in a garage and receiving 'lots of packages' with suspicion good civic sense?

I work long hours in the garage and receive lots of packages too, but being aware of what goes on in the neighborhood is merely a matter of good civic sense, is it not?
 
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