14,000 FATA youth to join Pakistan army

[syedali73]

Try to first investigate both sides of story before making up yr mind

You are expecting too much from an ignorant and thankless Afghan.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

I agree with your assessment , PDF might be a relative Paradise compared to Bharat-Rakhsak or some thing like that but there is always room for improvement. My suggestions were not aimed in defense of wrong-doers of India, its about justice.

Dude, who the F cares abt justice in this world anymore tell me? If it was upto me i wouldnt have been accepting their membership in the first place so there is no roam left of them being insulted here or get unjust here.I wouldnt have allowed myself in that position in which i had to be unjust with them.

Simple and straight forward.

You are expecting too much from an ignorant and thankless Afghan.

lol if u think his attitude reflects afghans then yr mistaken. They are at the bottom of the totem pole. He is way way more enlightened then them. Trust me on this.

 

[SQ8]

I agree with your assessment , PDF might be a relative Paradise compared to Bharat-Rakhsak or some thing like that but there is always room for improvement. My suggestions were not aimed in defense of wrong-doers of India, its about justice.

And yet somehow, that "small Pathan mind" bit did not bother you? Would it bother you had it come from some Karachi guy?

 

[syedali73]

lol if u think his attitude reflects afghans then yr mistaken. They are at the bottom of the totem pole. He is way way more enlightened then them. Trust me on this.

Being informed and enlighten are two different things. Thanks to the shelter, food, and education provided to him by Pakistan, he is relatively better informed than his brethren but at the core, he is just as racist and bigot and thankless as are his totally uneducated and illiterate brethren. What you say of those so-called western -educated Afghans who are running the show in Kabul?

 

[Samandri]

And yet somehow, that "small Pathan mind" bit did not bother you? Would it bother you had it come from some Karachi guy?

After conversation with you, i have felt and decided to either let go of it or report the post. I have also decided to stop generalizing about the entire community, i am dissolving my ignore list. From now on i would respond to members individually and accordingly. I will tolerate islandering of my community, but would not welcome disruptive and meaningless rude talk which leads to disruption of debate.. For example just now i also ignored meneanctosciety's post on other thread in which he is saying that Pakistan has yet to teach lesson to FATA-iens for their treachery and treason.. Umair Nawaz's most of the post had some thing worthy to response, so i ignored his first line.......But @DESERT FIGHTER on this thread is consistently being rude and impolite, is putting words into my mouth , i have reported him.

 

[SQ8]

After conversation with you, i have felt and decided to either let go of it or report the post. I have also decided to stop generalizing about the entire community, i am dissolving my ignore list. From now on i would respond to members individually and accordingly. I will tolerate islandering of my community, but would not welcome disruptive and meaningless rude talk which leads to disruption of debate.. For example just now i also ignored meneanctosciety's post on other thread in which he is saying that Pakistan has yet to teach lesson to FATA-iens for their treachery and treason.. Umair Nawaz's most of the post had some thing worthy to response, so i ignored his first line.......But @DESERT FIGHTER on this thread is consistently being rude and impolite, is putting words into my mouth , i have reported him.

Then let us handle it, we are not always perfect due to various reasons of time and manpower, but reporting is what helps.. and believe in "AGREE TO DISAGREE". Different opinions are tolerated here but there are always lines that are not be crossed which are different for different people. Whatever your allegiance on the qaum is, it is never justifiable to start or let yourself be engaged in racism. That is NOT what our religion teaches us and you are aware of that.. and that in my view is still(regardless of my various posts deriding the failed understanding and implementation concept of Ummah today) the most important allegiance.

 

[Aramagedon]

Then let us handle it, we are not always perfect due to various reasons of time and manpower, but reporting is what helps.. and believe in "AGREE TO DISAGREE". Different opinions are tolerated here but there are always lines that are not be crossed which are different for different people. Whatever your allegiance on the qaum is, it is never justifiable to start or let yourself be engaged in racism. That is NOT what our religion teaches us and you are aware of that.. and that in my view is still(regardless of my various posts deriding the failed understanding and implementation concept of Ummah today) the most important allegiance.

Mate please tell me where do them. Answer your pm.

 

[SQ8]

Umair, those mind games aside.. that does not justify using that approach. Ive lived among them for my education as well and have encountered similar ultra-nationalists. But they are a dime a dozen and found in all communities within Pakistan.
Sadly, many of them became politicians or tools for them..which is why Pakistan is where it is at today.

Mate please tell me where do them. Answer your pm.

Ya Allah madad!. Patience.. . Please check PM.

 

[Samandri]

. That is NOT what our religion teaches us and you are aware of that.. a.

Agreed.....Wont happen in future, inshallah and even in my personal life, i would correct this negative aspect of me.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Being informed and enlighten are two different things. Thanks to the shelter, food, and education provided to him by Pakistan, he is relatively better informed than his brethren but at the core, he is just as racist and bigot and thankless as are his totally uneducated and illiterate brethren. What you say of those so-called western -educated Afghans who are running the show in Kabul?

I cant care less abt the doucebags running kabul, but i am anxiously waiting for the day when Taliban will hang their bodies like they did with Najeeb when they will again conquer Afghanistan like in the past. That will be their ultimate faith.

But im only concern abt Pathans which are Pakistanis. They must remain in the right path.

 

[SQ8]

Agreed.....Wont happen in future, inshallah and even in my personal life, i would correct this negative aspect of me.

If it is so I would consider it an achievement for me. I myself am prone to feeling anger when hearing remarks, and in this country one hears many more that go beyond ethnicity to religion. There is nothing more that lights a fire when news feeds and facebook trends openly show portraits of the prophet in despicable acts or positions. But one has to adapt and understand that these are not worth the adrenaline and high BP. There are positives to focus on and connections to be made with those willing to listen.
After that the idea of racism will seem bemusing and just banter. Because our societies are still essentially tribal and this is not just confined to the west. Throughout the plains of Punjab and Sindh, even to the posh cities of Lahore and Karachi.. "tribes" form around both ethnicity.. and if not that.. sects.. and if not that.. social class. For that matter, one only has to look at the way children from "uneducated" black families(and white ones for that matter)group together here in the US vs the more educated class.

The same way, the majority of recruits into the US military or rather the Marines and ground fighting force are from the rural areas( linking to your "rugged" or harsher lives theory). However, the fertile plains bit has nothing to do with it, the harsher bit does. Essentially, the military becomes a good career option and the associated dedication and "professionalism" varies from family to family. So as a connection, there are good troops from rural areas and some from Urban areas, the family upbringing being a factor. Again, this discussion is much more rooted in sociology than having anything to do with ethnicity or even terrain as such.

But im only concern abt Pathans which are Pakistanis. They must remain in the right path.

I think the best approach is to now worry about what path they choose as long as it is a path they choose as Pakistanis and that which is best for them and all of us. The day we stop trying to tell each other how to run their affairs is a bossy way and instead try to convince them that we all can offer each other "out of the box" solutions to our singular and collective problems.. we might actually make it as a united country.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

After conversation with you, i have felt and decided to either let go of it or report the post. I have also decided to stop generalizing about the entire community, i am dissolving my ignore list. From now on i would respond to members individually and accordingly. I will tolerate islandering of my community, but would not welcome disruptive and meaningless rude talk which leads to disruption of debate.. For example just now i also ignored meneanctosciety's post on other thread in which he is saying that Pakistan has yet to teach lesson to FATA-iens for their treachery and treason.. Umair Nawaz's most of the post had some thing worthy to response, so i ignored his first line.......But @DESERT FIGHTER on this thread is consistently being rude and impolite, is putting words into my mouth , i have reported him.

Lmao... Which words did I put in your mouth? Even in that thread it was you peddling your nonsense... And yet after getting owned for your racial nonsense ... You turned the whole thing on me ? Ironically its the same thread where you got negative ratings for spreading nonsense...


You see you are no different from other closet racists... I don't agree with Oscar but you are in the same boat... I've seen you whine about urdu speakers etc like a billion times... You are not different than the guys you complain about.

Agreed.....Wont happen in future, inshallah and even in my personal life, i would correct this negative aspect of me.

To be honest I find that really hard to digest... You are hardly a man of your word... You know that and so do I ...
May the Almighty show you the right path.

 

[Samandri]

May the Almighty show you the right path.

Thanks for your Dua.

I've seen you whine about urdu speakers etc like a billion times... You are not different than the guys you complain about.



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Actually this point made me ponder. Why i am calling them bad when i engages in the same game?.......May Allah give me taufeeq to get rid of my hate, anger and narrow-mindedness. Ameen

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Thanks for your Dua.


Actually this point made me ponder. Why i am calling them bad when i engages in the same game?.......May Allah give me taufeeq to get rid of my hate, anger and narrow-mindedness. Ameen

And may Allah show the entire nation the right path and watch over us in dark times and huge us strength to come out stronger.. Ameen.

 

[Sal12]

Is Pakistan increasing the size of its Pak army. Does anyone has any information about it.