13 CRPF men including 2 officers killed in Chhattisgarh Maoist ambush

[Burhan Wani]

ISI is behind you too..

 

[bipi@342]

As hapless troops battled Maoists, not one IAF copter took off in aid


Even as members of the ill-fated battalions 223, 206 of the Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) and the state police battled the Maoists near the Kasalnar village close to Chintagufa in Chhattisgarh's troubled Sukma district, in what is the biggest internal security setback for the Narendra Modi administration, lack of coordination coupled with the remoteness of the location ensured that not a single helicopter sortie could be conducted for the troops either to provide reinforcements or to evacuate those in need.
As a result, the 13 dead and as many injured have been left to brave it out in the jungle, not too far from where they were ambushed. It was confirmed that the first helicopter flight will take off only the next day morning. Meanwhile, it was informed that the effort was to somehow get the injured and the dead bodies to the safety of camps.

The Indian Air Force (IAF) deploys eight Mi17 helicopters towards what it terms as Operation Triveni, a dedicated logistical effort in support of the force battling the rebels.

According to information pieced together, the firing on the troops began close to 11am and lasted for over four hours. All along the senior authorities claimed they were in touch with the troops and were organising support. However, the IAF was not informed till very late. Till about 5pm, force personnel were trying to get the choppers airborne but failed to. "We were trying to ensure that at least the injured and dead bodies are brought to Jagdalpur town but it did not materialise," said an officer.

"By the time the IAF was told, it was already close to 5pm and the sun had nearly set. Flying in such circumstances is impossible," said a source from the Ministry of Defence (MoD). This inability flies in the face of claims made by successive IAF chiefs of how the choppers deployed have night flying capability. Speaking at this year's annual Indian Air Force (IAF) day press conference, Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha spoke about the 'night flying capability' of the helicopters deployed in the anti-Maoist offensive. His predecessor too had highlighted the acquired capability.

"Night flying means helicopter can fly from point A to B, not a terrain like a jungle. There needs to be illumination, reference points and so on. Even sanitising needs to be ensured which it was jointly agreed was not feasible," said an IAF spokesperson.

Troops engaged in the effort and the IAF have often had a troubled relationship with both sides accusing the other of inadequate response every time a situation emerges. While the air force has repeatedly highlighted the need to sanitise the area where the chopper has to land, it believes that force often fail in doing so. "As a result, we have been fired upon and even our personnel have been injured. Maoists are known to target us and some precautions need to be taken," a MoD official stated. On the other hand, the forces feel the IAF follows a risk-averse policy. "BSF choppers have often landed in difficult circumstances," complained a CRPF officer

 

[bipi@342]

I really feel Ashamed,the Indiffernce shown by the forces towards each other, costing valuable lives.

 

[jaatram]

RIP to the soldiers ... as for people grinning about this unfortunate incident, hold your horses as we reserve our jokes.

 

[Rafi]

RIP - the forests will make any CI very difficult and the fact that the locals support them.

 

[bipi@342]

RIP - the forests will make any CI very difficult and the fact that the locals support them.

encounter happening deep inside the jungle,so there is no locals

 

[harpoon]

As hapless troops battled Maoists, not one IAF copter took off in aid


Even as members of the ill-fated battalions 223, 206 of the Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) and the state police battled the Maoists near the Kasalnar village close to Chintagufa in Chhattisgarh's troubled Sukma district, in what is the biggest internal security setback for the Narendra Modi administration, lack of coordination coupled with the remoteness of the location ensured that not a single helicopter sortie could be conducted for the troops either to provide reinforcements or to evacuate those in need.
As a result, the 13 dead and as many injured have been left to brave it out in the jungle, not too far from where they were ambushed. It was confirmed that the first helicopter flight will take off only the next day morning. Meanwhile, it was informed that the effort was to somehow get the injured and the dead bodies to the safety of camps.

The Indian Air Force (IAF) deploys eight Mi17 helicopters towards what it terms as Operation Triveni, a dedicated logistical effort in support of the force battling the rebels.

According to information pieced together, the firing on the troops began close to 11am and lasted for over four hours. All along the senior authorities claimed they were in touch with the troops and were organising support. However, the IAF was not informed till very late. Till about 5pm, force personnel were trying to get the choppers airborne but failed to. "We were trying to ensure that at least the injured and dead bodies are brought to Jagdalpur town but it did not materialise," said an officer.

"By the time the IAF was told, it was already close to 5pm and the sun had nearly set. Flying in such circumstances is impossible," said a source from the Ministry of Defence (MoD). This inability flies in the face of claims made by successive IAF chiefs of how the choppers deployed have night flying capability. Speaking at this year's annual Indian Air Force (IAF) day press conference, Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha spoke about the 'night flying capability' of the helicopters deployed in the anti-Maoist offensive. His predecessor too had highlighted the acquired capability.

"Night flying means helicopter can fly from point A to B, not a terrain like a jungle. There needs to be illumination, reference points and so on. Even sanitising needs to be ensured which it was jointly agreed was not feasible," said an IAF spokesperson.

Troops engaged in the effort and the IAF have often had a troubled relationship with both sides accusing the other of inadequate response every time a situation emerges. While the air force has repeatedly highlighted the need to sanitise the area where the chopper has to land, it believes that force often fail in doing so. "As a result, we have been fired upon and even our personnel have been injured. Maoists are known to target us and some precautions need to be taken," a MoD official stated. On the other hand, the forces feel the IAF follows a risk-averse policy. "BSF choppers have often landed in difficult circumstances," complained a CRPF officer

Well then the authorities should look into deploying AF personnals to the front line and see the firefight firsthand so that next time the call comes they will fireup their choppers rather than come up with BS excuses.

 

[bipi@342]

Well then the authorities should look into deploying AF personnals to the front line and see the firefight firsthand so that next time the call comes they will fireup their choppers rather than come up with BS excuses.

as a policy we will not deploy armed forces in battle against maoist,only used IAF for cevac and logistics purpose

 

[harpoon]

as a policy we will not deploy armed forces in battle against maoist,only used IAF for cevac and logistics purpose

Even then if BSF helicopters can land sure can IAF. I believe the IAF is insensitive to the plight of ordinary jawans.... and thats why they come up with BS excuses. Anyways the policy of not using armed forces against Maoists should change.

 

[Major Shaitan Singh]

Yday's ambush's huge ramification. Maoists stole 10 AK47s, 1 Light Machine Gun, 1 SLR, 1 VHF set, binoculars & BP jackets from CRPF

 

[Parul]

Rest in peace to dead!

 

[bipi@342]

Even then if BSF helicopters can land sure can IAF. I believe the IAF is insensitive to the plight of ordinary jawans.... and thats why they come up with BS excuses. Anyways the policy of not using armed forces against Maoists should change.

absolutely correct, i think IAF was insensitive about jawans

 

[bipi@342]

Drone pulled out mid-air while Sukma ops were on, CRPF complains to MHA


On Monday afternoon, learning about the death of their men was not the only horror facing the top brass of the Central Reserve Police Force(CRPF). Despite their best efforts at convincing, the spy agency National Technological Research Organisation (NTRO) insisted and succeeded in pulling out its surveillance Unmanned Aerial Vehicle(UAV) deployed over Sukma at the time the operation was on.
This ditching, being viewed very seriously as hampering the force when it needed all possible efforts has propelled the CRPF top brass to complain formally to its parent body, the Ministry of Home Affair (MHA). A senior IPS officer posted in the CRPF, confirming the development, said, "We are not going to take this lying down anymore. The MHA has been, in a very strongly worded manner, informed about this. It is now up to them."

According to information accessed, the operations directorate of the CRPF placed an advanced 'indent' (read requisition) for UAV deployment over Sukma from 8am to 5pm for Monday, December 1. It was learnt that this was done keeping in mind the Maoist build up and the operations which were on for a fortnight. From Sukma, the Israeli-made Heron UAV was to fly to Jharkhand to provide an assessment of the Maoist presence since the state was to go for polls on Tuesday. Only then was it to return to its base at the Begumpet airport.

"The UAV arrived over Sukma only by noon. By around 1:30pm, it was gone. The NTRO's point was that the fuel supply was nearly exhausted and it needed to fly more than 90 minutes to reach Hyderabad," said a source. What bewildered the CRPF top brass was the sudden change of plan. "Given what was happening, we told NTRO to cancel flying to Jharkhand and maintain presence over Sukma. What we got in return baffled us. If you have been informed of a job as critical as this, how can you just walk away," a source stated.

The UAV, despite its limited visual penetration of the thick foliage over jungles of Bastar is of immense help to the security forces since it beams live images of the location over which it flies. In a limited way, the UAV also helps forces to track, detect and react to any possible build up of the insurgents.

The NTRO's UAV is operated by personnel from the Indian Air Force (IAF) who are on deputation to the spy agency. The spy agency is facing a crisis of pilots and observers and one set of pilots and observers can't work for over four hours and NTRO has barely two set of people at the best of times. As a result of this, the Heron UAV which can actually operate for over 18 hours, effectively is not utilized beyond eight hours at the most. What makes the matters worse is that the NTRO only flies one UAV at a time and that too for a limited duration owing to the manpower crunch. Its pay, mandated by the government rules, also is too meagre for it to be able to attract fresh recruitment. When reached for a comment, Air Vice Marshal Arvind Verma, chief of UAV operations of NTRO heard the entire issue and said, "You should speak to the right authority. I can not comment." When asked who should be reached, he did not reply.

It is not for the first time that the CRPF and NTRO have had a run in. In the past, former Home Secretary and now BJP MP RK Singh had put it in writing the need to stop relying on NTRO and developing own fleet of UAVs. Apart from that, for years now, the ground forces have pleaded the NTRO to shift out of Hyderabad and operate from Jagdalpur or Bhillai or any other air strip in the vicinity but NTRO has refrained. "Imagine the constraints that the NTRO already faces. In that by insisting on operating out of Hyderabad, you end up wasting considerable flying time in merely reaching over places in Bastar or Jharkhand. You have barely reached and it is time to head back, exactly what happened in the Sukma operation," explained a source.

While the CRPF reports to the MHA and the police to their respective state goverments, the NTRO comes under the cabinet secretariat and by extension, under Prime Minister's Office (PMO).

 

[alibaz]

RIP soldiers.

 

[harpoon]

absolutely correct, i think IAF was insensitive about jawans

Its time that Govt seriously considers putting all rotary aircrafts under Army or Ground forces control.