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Unfortunately, we can not dictate to French society or govt how to act and react. Now PMLn and other political parties using them for anarchy. French make fun of Jesus Christ who they follow, then how we expect they respect Holy Prophet PBUH.
When Muslims follow the teaching of the Holy Prophet PBUH, Non-Muslims will start to respect our prophet.
We are responsible for all bad behavior....
But "Holocaust Denial" is a crime in France as well I believe. I say start from there.
 
But "Holocaust Denial" is a crime in France as well I believe. I say start from there.
As I said before, their country their rules. We can't dictate our beliefs on others. Europe doesn't believe in religion. Plus, they don't talk about Holocaust in public, but behind the doors they discuss. Look at the NeoNazi group's emergence in the EU.
 
As I said before, their country their rules. We can't dictate our beliefs on others. Europe doesn't believe in religion. Plus, they don't talk about Holocaust in public, but behind the doors they discuss. Look at the NeoNazi group's emergence in the EU.

Does that mean no one should ever approach them with their concerns? Even anti holocaust legislation was once deemed as an ideal demand of a particular segment of global community
 
Does that mean no one should ever approach them with their concerns? Even anti holocaust legislation was once deemed as an ideal demand of a particular segment of global community
Pakistan reaches out multiple times through the UN and govt to govt contact. The only solution is to break the relations and face repercussions in the UN and FATF. Basically, what's going on inside France is not our business.
It is quite an intellectual discussion, where people need to study the foreign policy of Holy Prophet PBUH during his era. Which is beyond TLP leadership comprehension.
Next tell TLP to burn down Mirage, Kamra, MBDA project, Agusta B etc etc ... plus.. we earned French votes in UN resolutions.
There always a peaceful way to resolve issues.
 
policy makers' shortsightedness and use of religion going to haunt us,
and sadly it will be end of us.
 
The only solution is to break the relations and face repercussions in the UN and FATF.


Oh so weve come down to the levek of taking a christian club as our "Raziq" but at what cost ? This yellow black list doesnt concern a common pakistani one bit as hes already paying through indirect taxation for the soodi qarzays meant for maintaining the lifestyle of our oxford breed
 
So cat is finally out of the box ? when uneducated masses, take their Mullah as Allah then these things are bound to happen, they are not acting on Prophet SAW or Allah's command but the command of their Arrested Leader, this alone speak how much of a holy cow this thug group is, they are just using this France case to show Power Projection, showing Govt that we are boss and we can shut Pakistan, kidnap and kill Police on sight, all we have to do is to bring those snakes from our Madarsa out.

IK was hell bent on appeasing these monsters and try to talk to them and their brother TTP, now look they are out in open, even in the height of Prosecution Prophet never ordered to kidnap anyone or destroy properties of innocent, only the person who was blasphemous were punished that too when they constantly doing it within the realm of State, TLP needs to be dealt with Iron Fist, their leaders needs to be put in jail for 10-20 years of jail , every mosque and Madarsa they run should be either shut or regulated by Govt, and religious politics needs to be shut down or it will burn Pakistan to the ground, people will have no choice but to look towards west for help, and make no mistake they will come, Pakistan needs to understand religion can not be used as blackmailing to state, all if not most of those so call Muhajid will rush in lines to get Green cards or American backing if they were offered, they would love a fashion show in Paris if given opportunities and yet they are literally destroying the entire Pakistan just Because France made some insulting cartoon, and even then Pakistan launch its protest, there are several Islamic countries and no a single one of them actually doing the same as Pakistani's are, KSA where Prophet Muhammad SAW actually born and lived and are resting has take the same route, Turkey , Iran , Egypt , Iraq , Yemen , Qatar , Malaysia , Indonesia , Morocco and no a single country has resort to butchering their own LEA and kidnapping them.

Now as France and West would be enjoying these situations in Pakistan, soon they will once again made more cartoons publish them and then the Entire EU will stand behind those cartoons, and a Poor Pakistan can not even take any action because taking action or kicking their ambassador mean the EU will leave and there goes our Trade and they will also kick every Pakistani diplomat out. TLP has done more damage in a day then those cartoons would have ever did, Prophets respect and honor is preserved in our hearts, we wont show the world how great he was by killing our own people, burning our own countries , in fact we can not honor him or protect his name, Allah took it upon himself he is praised by Allah, Angels and every creation every second of existence and here we are thinking we can do anything that will change anything, no amount of Cartoon or insult will do nothing to change the fact that what he means to every Muslims, but our own people burning , killing and destroying our own countries will sure show to the world that how dumb, stupid and idiot barbaric we are ... I bet, that France , India and entire EU and their Ministers would be laughing and enjoying drinks watching the news coming from Pakistan, if they even give a dime for Pakistan.
 
Are they holding real weapons like AK 47s etc? Yaar please try to have a dialogue with them, if they are uneducated, try to educate them on matters related Islam. They are our people yaar, I must say illiterate ones but still they are our people man please try to fix it with dialogue.
Decades of indoctrination cannot be reversed in days. It probably won't be reversed anytime soon either, otherwise ethnonationalists will take mullah's place and disintegrate the country.
 
As I said before, their country their rules. We can't dictate our beliefs on others. Europe doesn't believe in religion. Plus, they don't talk about Holocaust in public, but behind the doors they discuss. Look at the NeoNazi group's emergence in the EU.

Sir sorry for your knowledge sake at least West leadership do give importance to religion and even uses religion if and when required please do research regarding American Bush and Pope alliance during Iraq war.
Please also check who is the head of Church of England, please also provide any example showing French president as atheist. On other side French society also includes sufficient number of Muslims from Morroco, Turkish and Asian ethnicity. If they do not respect religious personalities then it is our duty to teach them same. I am amazed by the attitude of fate less Arabs who by appearance look like Muslims but in reality they have soled their spirit, now they are learning vulgarity and Zionist teachings from West/ Israel, at least Pakistan has over whelming majority of people who know the true meaning of being Muslim. They are neither funded by Arabs, Farsi or West yet they are ready to shed their lives in the name of Almighty and his last Prophet Peace Be Upon Him.
I openly condemn brutal acts of Govt though I do not have physical power to stop such acts yet I am satisfied that by definition of Jihad I have raised my voice against brutal Govt and condemn these acts by heart.
 
Dear mates please do check videos about whole scenario from Oriya Maqbool and Imran Khan-reporter. Certainly we should not provide free hand to Indian agents to harm our country.
Thanks to these brutal acts many liberal people in Pakistan like me shall become radical in coming days.
 
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You mean like how the pigs you call a police force and rangers murdered this child, a true patriot?
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Or how they beat our elderly patriots?

Pakistan is run by trash, the government are lying sh*t as are those who run the security establishment. We've all known this, we just pretended not to see.



Yet they were unarmed unless you could sticks in the face of armed police and rangers that indiscrimiantely murdered civilians.

Otherwise please show us all the pictures of armed protestors.



I would hope that the illegal and illogical ban would be reversed by the courts.

The protests getting out of hand are a byproduct of the absolutely illegal arrest of Saad Rizvi.



You lying bastard, here's two pictures right here:

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Oh wait, these were the PTI's supporters.



So they're murdered by a corrupt, treasonous police and government and these patriots are thugs?

Who haven't your rent-a-Generals and politicians sold our nation out to? If it isn't the Chinese it's the Americans or Arab despots.

These men aren't the ones giving away national security secrets or bribed by foreign governments to allow in spies into the country and then allow those traitors to fly out of the country:
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It's not the TLP that created disastrous neo-liberal economic policies that have slowly bankrupted the nation and while the TLP works hard to collect charity to support their social work your government/military use tax dollars and debt to do the same to buy support all the while selling our nation and interests to foreign powers and economic bodies.

Who did these patriots of the TLP sell Pakistan to?

The government loves communists, whores and every piece of shit seeking to indiscriminately kill our troops and people or destroy our state but hates patriots like those in the TLP that have done nothing but support Pakistan, love our nation and are proud citizens who aren't sending their kids abroad to study in the UK or America.

Contrast the treatment a patriot like Saad Rizvi gets at the hands of our government and security establishment vs a Hindu terrorist that sought to murder our children:
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They came unarmed to protest against the unwarranted defamation of our culture and the prophet (pbuh) who represents a religion that is the foundation of our state.

Who did these police fight and murder these innocent patriots for? A French sh*thole that glorifies the murder of Muslims at their museum and now arms Hindu terrorists to murder our people in Pakistan, etc...

I'm done with supporting the trash that would bomb our own villages for the US, displace over a million of our own people and now murder our patriots in Punjab.

You're not helping Pakistan by supporting the torture, illegal arrest and murder of the TLP.

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This is why I stopped supporting Khan and the PTI in 2017.

Khan and the PTI aren't just dumb as sh*t they also have collective amnesia:

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Khan and the PTI were largely a stepping stone for me to greater Islamic Nationalist parties and the TLP was the beginning of one with a vibrant young leader Saad Rizvi instead of the fat, tired and old like Nawaz Sharif, Zardari and Sheikh Rasheed.

However there are other great future leaders coming out like Shaheer Sialvi:
Chat shitt against our military or police in general and yes, anyone will get what's coming to them. By all means, cite specific examples and specific cases of heavy handedness, incompetence or cowardice, but to curse the whole institution is an act of sedition. It's really that simple. So, obfuscate this simple point as much as you like but your attempts to change any genuine patriot's perceptions here are akin to pissing in the wind. It's plain to see who the miscreants are and what their objectives are.
 
Ek tu PDF ki Jahil awaam, IK has never claim that Pakistan has become Riyasat-e-Madina, he said he will try to make it as similar as he could, no one can remodel that Riyasat in 21st century and yet these Jahil awam is using his words, twisting them as per their propaganda and creating a sense of disparity between state and people, @AgNoStiC MuSliM @The Eagle @Foxtrot Alpha @krash why action is not been taken against those who are openly supporting TLP which after the recent violence and kidnapping has proven to be a terrorists Party?
 

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