104 to 0: The F-15 Eagle Is The Fighter No Air Force Can Beat

[Bilal Khan 777]

Yeah you can achieve this score against poorest nations in respect of tech especially when you send 100000 cruise missiles to destroy first air defense then send your eagles....lolsss
@RescueRanger @MastanKhan @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Bilal Khan 777

A cruise missile is a million USD. Do you math.

 

[Ultima Thule]

A cruise missile is a million USD. Do you math.

He just giving a examples/theories sir

 

[RescueRanger]

who cares?

 

[LeGenD]

I don't understand; why some Pakistani are in the habit of downplaying performance of certain American assets in the battlefield?

Have we produced anything that has 104-0 record in various air-to-air engagements around the world? Did Russia?

Credit where due, guys.

 

[Windjammer]

Has Anyone Ever Shot Down an F-15 in Air Combat?
Part one

WIB AIRWIB HISTORY December 29, 2017 Tom Cooper


According to official releases from Boeing and the U.S. Air Force, the F-15 Eagle has a clear-cut win-to-loss ratio of 104 to zero. But in fact, opposing air forces have claimed, in nearly a dozen cases, to have shot down the iconic, twin-engine fighter.

All the claims have one thing in common. The claimants were never able to provide any evidence for their supposed victories.

The earliest report is mostly unknown to the public. Beginning in 1978, Iraqi sources claimed that an Iraqi air force MiG-23MS from No. 39 Squadron shot down an Israeli F-15 over western Iraq. Former Iraqi air force officers have repeated the claim over the years without ever offering any evidence.

The next supposed F-15 shoot-down, from the spring of 1981, is better-known. Several different versions of the story have circulated over the decades, nearly all of them in Russian media.

In the most frequently cited version, on Feb. 13, 1981, Israeli F-15s ambushed a pair of Syrian MiG-25Ps and shot one down. In revenge, so the story goes, the Syrians set up an ambush on June 29, 1981. The Syrian MiG-25Ps destroyed one F-15 using two R-40/AA-6 Acrid air-to-air missiles fired from the range of 25 miles.

According to various Russian and Syrian narratives, Syrian MiG-25R reconnaissance aircraft were involved in at least one, more likely two or more clashes with Israeli F-15s. Photo via ACIG.info

There are problems with this story. Neither the Syrians nor the Russians have ever provided any evidence, such as radar tapes or wreckage. Another issue is that the Syrian air force never actually received any MiG-25Ps. Syria acquired several batches of Foxbats, including two of MiG-25PDS interceptors, but no MiG-25Ps.

While frequently described as a downgraded export variant of the Foxbat, the MiG-25PDS was actually much better-equipped than the early interceptor variant was. In addition to the powerful Smerch 2A radar of the MiG-25P, it had an infrared search-and-track system under the forward fuselage, radar warning receivers in blisters on the intakes and big chaff and flare dispensers in place of the wing fences.

Any source citing “Syrian MiG-25Ps” is of dubious quality.

Furthermore, the Foxbat the Israelis shot down in February 1981 was a MiG-25R – a reconnaissance variant – flying over Lebanon all by itself. This is of particular importance because, in contrast to the Russian claims, the Syrians claim that a MiG-25PDS flying alone shot down the F-15 in retaliation.

According to the Syrian version of the story, the MiG-25PDS mimicked a MiG-25R on a reconnaissance sortie by flying very high and fast in the direction of Beirut. When eight Israeli F-15s rose to intercept, the Syrian pilot fired two R-40s at their leader — one from around 37 miles, the other from slightly less than 31 miles, well outside the range of AIM-7F Sparrows, the longest-ranged air-to-air missiles in the Israeli arsenal in 1981.


According to the Syrians, the stricken F-15 crashed into the sea off the coast of Tire. The Israeli pilot supposedly ejected. Recalling the same encounter, the Israelis reported that their F-15s shot down on MiG-25 with a Sparrow missile.

In a well-known case from late afternoon of June 9, 1982, a Syrian MiG-21 pilot struck an F-15D with a single R-60/AA-8 Aphid missile. Despite severe damage, the pilot of the big U.S.-made fighter managed to fly it back to Israel for an emergency landing, and his aircraft was subsequently repaired.

There are a few more claims from this era worth considering. On July 3, 1982, eight Syrian MiG-21s clashed with four each Israeli F-15s and either Mirage IIICJs or Kfirs over Beirut. While admitting the loss of four own fighters, the Syrians claimed to have shot down an Eagle, too.

There is not one known Israeli publication mentioning this aerial battle, although this engagement was witnessed by dozens of people on the ground and widely reported by the Lebanese media.

Finally, several Russian publications have cited no fewer than three further claims against Israeli F-15s – all in 1983. Supposedly, Syrian MiG-23MLs shot down two F-15s on Oct. 4 and another on Dec. 4. The Russian sources provided no evidence in support of these claims, not even the names of the Syrian pilots who were involved.

 

[Mugwop]

I believe it all comes down to the pilot not just the fighter aircraft.

 

[DarX]

There is no comparison between Vietnam and Afghanistan. Out of hate for the US, I can understand your post. But, you should at the least have some realistic knowledge about the US capabilities.

How can you say that there is no comparison between Afghanistan and Vietnam? The American involvement in Afghanistan reached 100000 troops at one time, which is similar to Vietnam levels. America tried to use air power in both countries, and failed in both countries. America supported a corrupt and debauched govt in both countries, and failed in both countries. America killed thousands of civilians in both countries, and still failed to control both countries. America tried to push its narrative in both countries, and failed in both countries. It is not our hate which drives all of this. It is American ego which is is the cause of its defeat and humiliation.

It seems to be that even America is unaware of the limits of US capabilities.

 

[Maarkhoor]

A cruise missile is a million USD. Do you math.

Yeah I do math Sir but claiming a 104 versus 0 score is totally unjustified.

 

[Raider 21]

I believe it all comes down to the pilot not just the fighter aircraft.

Mix of both aircraft and pilot capabilities....the ball of the game is to get the bandit die for his or her country.

 

[RescueRanger]

I don't understand; why some Pakistani are in the habit of downplaying performance of certain American assets in the battlefield?

Have we produced anything that has 104-0 record in various air-to-air engagements around the world? Did Russia?

Credit where due, guys.

It's not about downplaying the performance, its about them having superiority over their enemies!

 

[Raider 21]

You can clearly see libyans rooming around the crashed Jet

Even Saddam shot down many US War planes in Iraq war.But Quantity and Severity of Attack can defeat any country.

Just to complete the picture Saddam Baghdad air defence shot down US fighter jets above Baghdad airspace one of the ejected pilot was captured alive by the crowd.

That was live on TV

Allah knows how many more jets were shot down in Iraqi desert.

That was an F-15E Strike Eagle....not the F-15A/B/C/D Eagles.

Saddam's "mighty air force" shot a number of aircraft down but most of them were not driven to fight. A good number of Iraqi AF pilots flew their jets to Iran to avoid any further aerial engagements.

 

[Mugwop]

That was an F-15E Strike Eagle....not the F-15A/B/C/D Eagles.

Saddam's "mighty air force" shot a number of aircraft down but most of them were not driven to fight. A good number of Iraqi AF pilots flew their jets to Iran to avoid any further aerial engagements.

Some of them even buried theirs and refused to fight.

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

Yeah I do math Sir but claiming a 104 versus 0 score is totally unjustified.

i have no idea what is being discussed. Sorry.

 

[LeGenD]

How can you say that there is no comparison between Afghanistan and Vietnam? The American involvement in Afghanistan reached 100000 troops at one time, which is similar to Vietnam levels. America tried to use air power in both countries, and failed in both countries. America supported a corrupt and debauched govt in both countries, and failed in both countries. America killed thousands of civilians in both countries, and still failed to control both countries. America tried to push its narrative in both countries, and failed in both countries. It is not our hate which drives all of this. It is American ego which is is the cause of its defeat and humiliation.

It seems to be that even America is unaware of the limits of US capabilities.

Your comparison is not sound.

In Vietnam, objective was to prevent communist forces from taking over that country but this did not work. On top, US suffered tremendous losses in Vietnam in terms of men and material. Vietcong was armed to the teeth with the best of Soviet weaponry at the time and Vietnamese territory nullified any advantage in military capability of the US. Furthermore, American public perceived Vietnam War as totally irrelevant to American interests and civil unrest in the US had a trickle-down effect on the cohesion of US troops in Vietnam.

Now, you may not believe this but so-called war in Afghanistan is one of the least costly to US in terms of men and material in history; American forces are hardly threatened or pressed in Afghanistan in reality. On top, a [stable] Afghanistan will not only diminish the relevancy of American presence in the region but will also be good for CPEC in the region; therefore, not in the best interests of the US. Towards this end, Taliban is a convenient boogeyman and ISIS-K has been established to fuel conflict. ISIS-K is not only challenging Taliban across Afghanistan but is also responsible for scores of bomb lasts in Kabul and acts of violence against Afghan Shia. All of this is happening under the watch of Americans and they are cultivating a narrative that Pakistan is responsible for mess in Afghanistan.

Give us a f**king break. US can easily straighten Afghanistan, if it wants to, but this is not its objective. I used to believe in American mission in Afghanistan but not anymore. These scumbags are engineering conflicts there and then they blame Pakistan for mess in Afghanistan.

Unfortunately, idiots on our side do not get the memo either. They are boasting about American failure in Afghanistan but utterly failed to comprehend the bigger picture.

Taliban cannot defeat US in the battlefield, realistically and objectively. It is a convenient boogeyman to fuel unrest in the region for as long as US deems it necessary. God help us.

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

Okay, F15 as a strike eagle flies with complete network centric capability, ECM, and BVR rounds. With that yes it has not been shot down. I do recall once a wing came off and the bird still flew back. That said, every aircraft can be shot down. When the KSA will go against a real adversary, a lot of their F15s will be shot down. Please wait for that one.