10 things Pakistanis hate to hear

[VCheng]

very cynical and wrong, as the rest just follow, what certain classes/types who happen to be in power bring upon the rest...

All the information available indicates that I am neither cynical nor wrong when I come to that conclusion.

 

[Desert Fox]

So what system would work in Pakistan in your opinion?

Dictatorship/Authoritarianism. Pakistan has only economically and socially progressed under such forms of gov.t

 

[VCheng]

Dictatorship/Authoritarianism. Pakistan has only economically and socially progressed under such forms of gov.t

That is a delusion of the highest order.

 

[Desert Fox]

That is a delusion of the highest order.

I think the biggest delusion is that Democracy will work for Pakistan because its "the latest modern trend".

We can all see the fruits of democracy in Pakistan today with Politicians only concerned about stuffing their own pockets.

 

[VCheng]

I think the biggest delusion is that Democracy will work for Pakistan because its "the latest modern trend".

We can all see the fruits of democracy in Pakistan today with Politicians only concerned about stuffing their own pockets.

As if the periods of military rule did not leave its own horrific messes.

 

[Desert Fox]

As if the periods of military rule did not leave its own horrific messes.

Of course they did. Never claimed they were perfect. However, one has to look at the lesser of the two evils.

 

[VCheng]

Of course they did. Never claimed they were perfect. However, one has to look at the lesser of the two evils.

Military rule is the greatest evil to befall Pakistan, of that there is no doubt.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I can give you a better 10 List

What Pakistanis hate to hear

1. Doctor bana hai ya , Engineer ? Make your choice now and you are in grade 2
2. Bus ane wali hai , line main lag Ja-in
3. You have to pay tax on this item you are bringing into country
4. Make up , is too much , take it easy on the eye shade aunty
5. Music , sunna haram hai
6. Make sure your jeans are above your ankle
7. Don't mess with him he has got connections
8. Need to pay police tax
9. Dulhan Bhag gai
10. Your application to USA has been deined, $%$%$%$% my application ... what ..%$% @@


Bonus 3:
11. The india Pakistan cricket series just got cancelled
12. There will be no dinner served on the US airplane flight only (Crackers and penuts)
13. The water you just drank was not from the purchased water bottle, was from Tap water ....

 

[Desert Fox]

Military rule is the greatest evil to befall Pakistan, of that there is no doubt.

Most Pakistanis would disagree.

 

[Hell hound]

Mine is even better.

Some people have also called me KAFIR in different debates!!

atleast u are being called kafir some people called me munafiq

 

[Leader]

All the information available indicates that I am neither cynical nor wrong when I come to that conclusion.

I dont follow your model of generalization, I rather look into details and have a enhanced view of things.

 

[VCheng]

I dont follow your model of generalization, I rather look into details and have a enhanced view of things.

Details such as Imran Khan, hailed as a messiah not that long ago, pushing for street protests to dislodge an elected government, just like many hooligans before him? Interesting how the details line up to destroy the political system when it suits the "angels". No institutional roots are laid down, which suits them just fine.

 

[Leader]

Details such as Imran Khan, hailed as a messiah not that long ago, pushing for street protests to dislodge an elected government, just like many hooligans before him? Interesting how the details line up to destroy the political system when it suits the "angels". No institutional roots are laid down, which suits them just fine.

this rhetoric is not relevant at all.

 

[VCheng]

this rhetoric is not relevant at all.

It is directly relevant, as an example of each demagogue leading their own group into tussles for power, to the detriment of the nation. Nobody, leader or follower, wishes to follow due process, and this truth Pakistanis do not wish to hear.

 

[Multani]

Some points are definitely more debatable than others:

10 things Pakistanis hate to hear – The Express Tribune Blog

One of the biggest disadvantages of living in a nation as homogeneous as ours is that it is very seldom that you get to hear alternative narratives on history, religion, culture and society in general. People who try and present narratives that are different from the main stream are labelled as agents, heretics or even worse, traitors.

Here I have made a list of ten things that average Pakistanis just don’t want to hear.

1. America and Israel cannot be blamed for all the miseries of the Muslim world in general and Pakistan in particular. For a country that was hand in gloves with the Americans just until the early nineties, our youth has an amazing tendency to blame all national problems on American polices. Right winged politicians are always busy in concocting this feel good account that we are perfect, peace loving people who are being pushed to the brink of collapse by Zionist and Kaffirs (infidels).

2. We live in an amazing country in which supposedly educated people like Aamir Liaquat preach in their honey laden voice that Islam is the most peaceful religion in the world and then go on making hate speeches against Ahmadis. If you really want people to respect Islam, remove discriminatory and archaic laws like the blasphemy and Hudood Ordinance. Learned scholars like Ghamidi have elaborated numerous times that blasphemy law has no relevance in true Islamic jurisprudence (of course now he is hiding in Malaysia, scared for his life ─ a fantastic indicator of how we deal with diverse opinions).

3. Minorities are persecuted in the bastion of Islam that our mullahs have created. Somehow, we as a nation are steadfast in the belief that the state of Pakistan is benevolent towards its minorities. Talk about the persecution that these minorities face starting from the constitution to the school textbooks and people will label you as anti Pakistan.

4. Women can date and marry according to their own will and this includes your female relatives (the last part infuriates them like anything). Somehow the 20-something on a date does not believe that his sister has the same rights as him. And this logic extends to family elders as well because in their patriarchal minds, killing their daughter would not shame the family name in the same way as if the same daughter went out on a date or married according to her choice.

5. The army is as much to blame, if not more, as the politicians for the ills of the country. Although recent years have seen a slight change in the national mindset with the army getting a bit of stick as well but still, for a common man, the army is all about national honour and so on and so forth.

6. Honour definitely comes after nutrition on the list of necessities. We are a nation so obsessed with national honour and pride that we are blinded to the simple fact that countries dependent on foreign aid for their economic survival cannot show much spine despite their nuclear arsenal and Zaid Hamids.

7. Hate Zardari all you want but we are a corrupt nation to our core. Somehow in the perfect world created by Ansar Abbasi and Shahid Masood, we are so happy to externalise all of our flaws onto a single person and party, that we never want to face up to the bitter reality. We were corrupt a long time before Zardari and we will be corrupt a long time after him.

8. Our culture and traditions have much more in common with India, especially the northern India, than to the puritanical strain of Islam that has influenced us deeply for the last three decades. For some strange reason people are much happier in telling how their ancestors were Arabs rather than admitting that their forefathers never left the subcontinent and converted to Islam from some local religion. The ‘Allah Hafizians’ take particular exception to this.

9. Every individual and institution that talks about plurality, regional peace, women rights and secularism is not funded by the United States and does not have an ulterior motive. People like Marvi Sirmed and Dr Hoodbhoy are a classic example of this: despite of their intellectual soundness and rational arguments they are conspicuous punching bags for the defenders of national honour who incessantly label them as foreign spies and agents.

10. Theocracy is nothing but a tyrannical rule of the clergy and the only system of governance for modern nation states is democracy, superiority of constitution and dichotomy of power amongst various pillars of the state. This again irritates the ‘Allah Hafizians’, Napoleon Guls and Ali Azmats who want to rid the world of democratic evils and establish an international caliphate.

P.S. You think I am kidding? Wait till you see the comments…

ghamdi is not an islamic scholar. He is self learnt. His famly is Sufi, unlike him. He went against his family. He has no authentic Islamic credentials or continuity from a recognized Islamic religious institution. His claim is that he belongs to the Farahi School, but that school Is actualy Salafi / Ahle Hadith. Even by their standards ghamdi is not an Islamic scholar to be recognized having not graduated from an Islamic institution belonging to that school.

These are facts.