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Well, what I'm trying to say is that I think it is changing. The way US is treating Iran has changed and I guess it is also affecting that of Israel. The deterrence has a lot to do with this. You don't need to wage a war to show your muscles. If your enemies are trying to avoid a conflict with you, that is an approval of your deterrence. And that is a good thing for everyone on Iran side.

I don't see recent attack as attack on Iran. It was primarily to provoke Hezbollah. I do agree that Israel doesn't treat attack on Lebanon in same way it attacks Gaza. It does realize there is potential for consequences in attacking Lebanon. And that is deterrence on Hezbollah's part. I agree you don't need to wage war. But at same time we shouldn't see things in odd ways. They avoid conflict now because two sides are already in conflict and drying up each others resources. However having Resistance banner is difficult task. Which we have to own up to. And lately we haven't been. If this course will maintain itself it is better to divert more resources to Palestinian Resistance as Hezbollah has more than enough weapons. Palestinians would be achieving something against the occupier. And let's be honest with ourselves, the Resistance axis(at this moment) isn't. And it's causing them to lose public support.
 
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Wait so why all of this "Death to Israel" crap from the ayatollats? Don't Iran want to fight Israel? Palestinians are occupied and the are telling you to come and bring Sulaimani and his Persian Lions quickly and fight the Israelis their borders are open. Even your leader said that only war can free Palestine.

Iranian Parliament Speaker: 'Only War Can Free Palestine'
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Iranian Legislator: 'Only War Can Free Palestine' - Middle East - News - Arutz Sheva

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On Al Quds Day, Iran’s Military Leaders Vow to Rout Out ‘Zionists’: ‘We Will Chase You House by House’
On Al Quds Day, Iran's Military Leaders Vow to Rout Out 'Zionists': 'We Will Chase You House by House, Take Revenge for Every Drop of Our Martyrs's Blood' | Jewish & Israel News Algemeiner.com

Who is "We" are these the Palestinians you are giving rpgs and 5kg rockets?

Body, I'm not a decision maker. I'm an Iranian explaining my understanding of all of the news that I'm reading. I may be right or wrong. The change that I mentioned is not going to happen over night. So you will hear those "Death to ..." and threats from both sides until a comprehensive resolution is reached.

Iran wants to gain voting right for Palestinians either through having Israel recognizing them as first class civilians (which is highly unlikely) or by helping them form their own sovereign nation and the world recognizing that. That is what Iran is pushing for. I personally think a political solution would be much better than an all out war to achieve that.
 
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Body, I'm not a decision maker. I'm an Iranian explaining my understanding of all of the news that I'm reading. I may be right or wrong. The change that I mentioned is not going to happen over night. So you will hear those "Death to ..." and threats from both sides until a comprehensive resolution is reached.

Iran wants to gain voting right for Palestinians either through having Israel recognizing them as first class civilians (which is highly unlikely) or by helping them form their own sovereign nation and the world recognizing that. That is what Iran is pushing for. I personally think a political solution would be much better than an all out war to achieve that.

Like everything in Iran the average Iranians decisions in the ground doesn't mater. I'm telling you what your leaders are saying for the past decades. It will be very hypocritical of them after all that noise of 'death to ......' that your leaders don't actually fulfill those promises. I understand your logic but we are speaking about Iran here a country ruled by the mad mullas that's wants to rule the region with their wilaya vaqih.

Are you going to tell me the mad mullas of Iran were doing Taqiyaa when they were shouting "Death to ....." . That does not fair well for the Image of Iran in the Axis of Resistance.
 
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Like everything in Iran the average Iranians decisions in the ground doesn't mater. I'm telling you what your leaders are saying for the past decades. It will be very hypocritical of them after all that noise of 'death to ......' that your leaders don't actually fulfill those promises. I understand your logic but we are speaking about Iran here a country ruled by the mad mullas that's wants to rule the region with their wilaya vaqih.

Are you going to tell me the mad mullas of Iran were doing Taqiyaa when they were shouting "Death to ....." . That does not fair well for the Image of Iran in the Axis of Resistance.

Armin is like average reformist Iranians who don't know anything about politics. Khomeini had regional aspirations since the moment he step foot in Iran, and Khamenei has inherited it as well. Mullah regime does not give a damn about Iranians. Average Palestinian or Lebanese live 2 orders of magnitude better than average Iranians, and 20 orders of magnitude better than people living in south east of Iran, but Iran is the one who pours money into Pali/Lebanese pockets. Without chanting Anti-American, Anti-Jewish rants, no Arab would give a **** about Iran. So, for becoming "Vali Faqih of All Muslims of the World", the title that Khamenei calls himself, he needs to chant these non-senses louder than anyone else in the world.
 
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Like everything in Iran the average Iranians decisions in the ground doesn't mater. I'm telling you what your leaders are saying for the past decades. It will be very hypocritical of them after all that noise of 'death to ......' that your leaders don't actually fulfill those promises. I understand your logic but we are speaking about Iran here a country ruled by the mad mullas that's wants to rule the region with their wilaya vaqih.

Are you going to tell me the mad mullas of Iran were doing Taqiyaa when they were shouting "Death to ....." . That does not fair well for the Image of Iran in the Axis of Resistance.
In politics, nothing is written in the stone. China and US were in a much worse situation and even fought a war. Now they have learned to get along and it is serving both of them fairly good.

Thinking of Iran's leadership as mad is your preference not mine. Mad was Saddam who ruined his country with his irrational decision making. Iran's leadership started at a disadvantage comparing to Iraq 30 years ago and now it has steered through all the hardship pretty well.
 
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Iran and Russia just signed a defense cooperation today, including S300 and S400 surface to air missile systems. It looks like this is the tie breaker, and Israel has just panicked when they said they did not mean to hurt the Iranian general (RIP).

"A step was taken in the direction of cooperation on the economy and arms technology, at least for such defensive systems such as the S-300 and S-400. Probably we will deliver them," RIA quoted Colonel General Leonid Ivashov as saying.


Russia may send S-300 missile system to Iran - media
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By Thomas Grove
January 20, 2015
 
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Several reported stabbed on bus in Tel Aviv, Israel
Published time: January 21, 2015 05:57

Several Israelis have reportedly been wounded in a stabbing attack on a Tel Aviv bus on Wednesday morning. The assailant was shot by Israeli police, Haaretz reported.

Five people were stabbed by a passenger on a Dan Line 40 bus on Begin Road in Tel Aviv near the Maariv Bridge, according to Ynetnews website. Two of the victims are in critical condition, while the other three are satisfactory. They were taken to the Ichilov Medical Center.

According to Magen David Adom emergency services, the two injured, who are in a fair condition, were evacuated to Tel Aviv's Ichilov Hospital, and one of the passengers was taken to Tel Hashomer Hospital
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Several reported stabbed on bus in Tel Aviv, Israel — RT News
 
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Analysis: Dangerous fog
 clouds Syria strike

Some questions for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon.

By Amos Harel 01:42 21.01.15

The Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee devoted itself to an important issue on Tuesday: the Israel Defense Forces’ decision to stop stationing soldiers in communities near the Gaza Strip. But if these Knesset members aren’t too busy with the election campaign, perhaps they should also make some time in the near future to discuss what is beginning to look like a major security crisis: the open threats by Iran and Hezbollah to take revenge for Sunday’s assassination of senior officials from both Hezbollah and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, which they attribute to Israel.

Officially, Israel refuses to confirm or deny its responsibility. But Israel Hayom, the newspaper closest to the government, wrote on Monday that “our forces attacked a group of high-level terrorists on the Syrian Golan Heights.” The MKs could rely on this report to pose a series of questions to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon:

Was Hezbollah’s Jihad Mughniyeh the intended target, or did the perpetrators intend from the start to also kill an Iranian general traveling in the same convoy? Did Military Intelligence even know the general was there? (In an interview with Israel Radio on Tuesday, former MI chief Amos Yadlin, now Zionist Camp’s candidate for defense minister, said, “There’s a question of whether there wasn’t another way to stop the developing attack, if we knew the Iranian was in the convoy.”)

By the following day, UN observers had already officially reported seeing Israeli drones cross into Syrian territory and open fire.

Did the killing of Mughniyeh – who was apparently considered a rising star in Hezbollah, in part due to his family lineage – outweigh the potential losses should the attack spark an escalation? This is a question that arises with every assassination. In the case of Mughniyeh’s father, Imad, who was assassinated in 2008, the answer is apparently yes, because of the damage it did to Hezbollah’s operational capabilities. The same is true of former Islamic Jihad leader Fathi Shikaki, killed in 1995. A counter-example is the assassination of Hezbollah’s previous leader, Abbas Moussawi, in 1992. Not only did Iran and Hezbollah respond by bombing Israel’s embassy in Argentina a month later, but the assassination gave rise to a more talented successor, Hassan Nasrallah.

According to some foreign media reports, the strike killed 12 operatives, half of them Iranian. Was it intended from the start to kill so many people?

Over the last year, Mughniyeh is known to have commanded terrorist cells that attacked Israel from the Syrian border. Did Sunday’s strike take place while the Hezbollah and Iranian officers were engaged in advanced preparations for another such attack (and thereby thwart it), or were they simply touring the border area, presenting an opportunity that Israel exploited?

Until now, Israel has taken care to remain relatively uninvolved in the Syrian civil war, intervening (according to foreign reports) only when it thought red lines were being crossed – for instance, to prevent transfers of advanced weaponry from Syria to Hezbollah. Did it consider the possibility that such a deadly strike on Hezbollah operatives (and in the end, also on at least one senior Iranian officer) could lead to escalation along the border? Just last Thursday, Nasrallah declared that the “resistance” considers itself entitled to respond to any Israeli aggression, whether in Lebanon or in Syria.

About a year ago, Nasrallah announced a new policy in the north, under which Hezbollah would attack Israeli targets in response to any Israeli action against either Hezbollah or Syria. In September, after a Hezbollah sapper was killed when a booby-trapped intelligence-gathering device exploded in south Lebanon, the Shi’ite militia responded by setting off two bombs in the Har Dov area. The bombs wounded two IDF soldiers, but the army said they just missed killing many more. Did the diplomatic-security cabinet meet after that incident to discuss the change in Hezbollah’s mode of responding – i.e., its willingness to risk killing soldiers and thereby sparking an escalation – and the consequent need to reconsider Israeli policy in the north?

How prepared is the Israeli home front if a war breaks out, given Hezbollah’s threat to launch tens of thousands of missiles and rockets at Israeli cities? Should preliminary preparations be made, despite the assessment that Hezbollah doesn’t want a full-scale war right now? How good are the IDF’s plans for fighting Hezbollah?

Ever since Sunday’s assassinations, the ruling Likud party’s political rivals have been hinting that the decision was motivated in part by political considerations. Such claims are always hard to prove. There’s no hermetic seal between policy and politics, and no leader can completely keep political considerations from leaking into his thoughts, especially during a campaign. Some straight talk from Netanyahu and Ya’alon could help dispel such claims.

The questions above are extremely relevant, because if Iran and Hezbollah carry out their threats, a new security situation will be created here that is liable to overshadow the campaign. Given this, Israel’s insistence on hiding behind a fictitious screen of ambiguity accomplishes nothing.

Haaretz.Com
 
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these commanders were guiding the front lines against Al-Nusra (branch of Al-Qaeda) terrorist group. once again Israel proved to be the main source and supporter of terrorism in the middle east. a cancer tumor which must be removed.
 
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Israel didn't target Iranian general in strike

An Iranian general killed in an Israeli air strike in Syria was not its intended target, and Israel believed it was attacking only low-ranking guerrillas, a senior security source said on Tuesday.

The remarks by the Israeli source, who declined to be identified because Israel has not officially confirmed it carried out the strike, appeared aimed at containing any escalation with Iran or the Lebanese Hezbollah guerrilla group.

Iranian Revolutionary Guard General Mohammed Allahdadi was killed with a Hezbollah commander and the son of the group's late military leader, Imad Moughniyeh, in Sunday's attack on a Hezbollah convoy near the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights.

Hezbollah, which is backed by Iran and fought a 34-day war withIsrael in 2006, said six of its members died in the strike.

Tehran has vowed to strike back. "These martyrdoms proved the need to stick with jihad. The Zionists must await ruinous thunderbolts," Revolutionary Guards' chief General Mohammad Ali Jafari was quoted on Tuesday as saying by the Fars news agency.

Asked if Israel expected Iranian or Hezbollah retaliation, the source said: "They are almost certain to respond. We are anticipating that, but I think it's a fair assumption that a major escalation is not in the interest of either side."

Troops and civilians in northern Israel are on heightened alert and Israel has deployed an Iron Dome rocket interceptor unit near the Syrian border.

"We did not expect the outcome in terms of the stature of those killed - certainly not the Iranian general," the source said. "We thought we were hitting an enemy field unit that was on its way to carry out an attack on us at the frontier fence.

"We got the alert, we spotted the vehicle, identified it was an enemy vehicle and took the shot. We saw this as a limited tactical operation."

In an Israeli television interview, Defense Minister Moshe Yaalon stopped short of claiming responsibility for Sunday's air strike while describing those killed as "bad guys, all of them".

"We are not fearing, but nevertheless we should be ready for, any act or any action and even for any escalation," Yaalon told the English-language station i24 News.

Israel has struck inside Syria several times since the start of the Syrian civil war, mostly destroying weaponry such as missiles that Israeli officials said were destined for Hezbollah, Israel's longtime foe in neighboring Lebanon.

Hezbollah has been fighting alongside President Bashar Assad's forces in the four-year-old Syrian conflict.

Israel didn't target Iranian general in strike: source| Reuters

this all BS they just launched the media campaign of un justifying our right to retaliate . that all .

but that not going to change anything
 
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Interesting information. The other forum is boring without your input :)
 
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