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1,500km Babur II under Development, also SL Babur progress.

So now we can safely say that the first Babur is completely ready, good. I hope Babur 2 is supersonic & yes it is true Pakistan is trying it’s very best to develop its own Nuclear Sub & fast.

Not sure about supersonic...
Even eurofighter's taurus is subsonic.....and thats a hightech missile built only in 2005 by three of the most advanced nations on planet..
So there is something sweet and sticky about 'subsonic' when it comes to cruise missiles.
 
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Y have we started to day dream.................... I will believe the things once i saw then or see a credible news article.......

we may have these things but there is equal chance that we may not have them ......... so believe it whn you see it with ur own eye that will make me joyous...........
 
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So now we can safely say that the first Babur is completely ready, good. I hope Babur 2 is supersonic & yes it is true Pakistan is trying it’s very best to develop its own Nuclear Sub & fast.

It won't be.

Super sonic missiles aren't that good. india imports them from Russia ...it serves their needs well.. But for Pakistan , we don't need super-sonic cruise missiles as of now. We need nuclear-tipped cruise missiles that are stealthy , and can hit cities like Mumbai , Delhi etc ...

1500 km range is a very good range , if true....
 
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It won't be.

Super sonic missiles aren't that good. india imports them from Russia ...it serves their needs well.. But for Pakistan , we don't need super-sonic cruise missiles as of now. We need nuclear-tipped cruise missiles that are stealthy , and can hit cities like Mumbai , Delhi etc ...

1500 km range is a very good range , if true....

I think your a bit confused. It also means a nuclear capable super sonic, long range, stealthy cruise missile.
 
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well news look credible and PAKISTAN is certainly working on strong and viable navy with such capabilities ..
news about development of 1500km range babur is also credible as PAKISTAN is working on it..
hope soon it will be reality ....
 
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Why do you think Pakistan recently created NSFC?
Naval strategic force command?
Pakistan navy in public eyes has no nuclear strategic capabilities,then why create a strategic command which was publicly declared as custodians of Pakistan's sea based second strike capability.
Thats much more than day dreaming.
Pakistan is under inferiority complex so thats why they created the NSFC just to showoff India that they are balancing the power within the region. Other than that it don't have no credibility. Its giving advantage to PN officers to get more paychecks and also fool our nation that our armed forces are doing too much for the nation just to increase their budget spending limits......In the west is an old saying"Seeing is believing" . We shold not just go for claims or just talkings. Truth cannot be hidden it comes itself out. When we will realli see the tests we will happili believe in everything. The technical experts within the world knows the credibility of our forces. The startegic assets takes lot of time, research and $$$ to materialize. Theories just don't work. We never even tested ground to ground cruise missile of 1500Km range and here doing big mouth claim for the underwater cruise missile claim for 1500Km. Anyways its a good try to keep the nation happi on the PDF forum. So many rumours we seen which never came out true and its looks like one of them......its also possible I may be wrong in my assumptions but we shold not be daydreaming all the times. I wish & hope we attain such capability or more than that for PN in near future......:smokin:
 
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chines D-11 with range of 4000km
american Tomahawak with range of 2500km

Tomahawk is max 700 miles.

DH series has around 4000km range.

Okay another quiz question : What is the main ingredient of a cruise missile?
 
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its possible to built on 1500km range or even more them that but this type of long range cruse missiles have been carried by
strategic bombers with have long range to
 
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^^^oh..ok...so PN created strategic force command only to intimidate india and get themselves in more trouble..
That makes sense......not.
Why not. If India can intimidate us by constructing Nuclear subz then why we shold not at least fool them by creating or showing off something even it could be a long range fake cruise missile fired from the fake Nuklear subz.I mean to try to get some psychological advantege for time being or to at least keep our nation daydreaming...:D

@Safriz don't get me wrong that we don't have the capability to achieve what is claimed by Rafi in his post. I mean we do have the caliber and resources to get it achieved but I don't see anybody serious about it at the top level except to get some personal $$$ advantage........:agree:
 
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Okay another quiz question : What is the main ingredient of a cruise missile?

Turbo Engine .....

Now may be make your point?

Pakistan is under inferiority complex so thats why they created the NSFC just to showoff India that they are balancing the power within the region. Other than that it don't have no credibility. Its giving advantage to PN officers to get more paychecks and also fool our nation that our armed forces are doing too much for the nation just to increase their budget spending limits......In the west is an old saying"Seeing is believing" . We shold not just go for claims or just talkings. Truth cannot be hidden it comes itself out. When we will realli see the tests we will happili believe in everything. The technical experts within the world knows the credibility of our forces. The startegic assets takes lot of time, research and $$$ to materialize. Theories just don't work. We never even tested ground to ground cruise missile of 1500Km range and here doing big mouth claim for the underwater cruise missile claim for 1500Km. Anyways its a good try to keep the nation happi on the PDF forum. So many rumours we seen which never came out true and its looks like one of them......its also possible I may be wrong in my assumptions but we shold not be daydreaming all the times. I wish & hope we attain such capability or more than that for PN in near future......:smokin:

Well then it cane be applied to everything...

How can we know that Nasr can carry nukes? Probably Pakistanis are just bluffing to counter indian cold start? What about our Ballistic missile capabilities? What if they all are failures and we are having severe problems to form some sort of deterrence ..but still you know..psychological game...we say that we have deployed nuclear missiles etc... This can go on and on..isn't it?
 
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@ RAfi.
thanks bro!
well, this is for sure that Pakistan is interested in cruise missile technology with extended range. Also we have all heard news and rumors regarding the development of Naval version of missile from Subs and later on for frigates when heavier ships are available.

i have talked to someone concerned and it is confirmed that the work on longer range missile is being done but the official news and tests may come only in 2013/2014.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistan-strategic-forces/185609-babur-cruise-missile-database.html
 
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after india's ABM capability...its only logical for Pakistan to divert resources towards cruise missiles against which india has no defense.
 
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Srry Indians were telling me Akash SAM can take out Babur... But then I saw facts, Akash can only take out targest that are higher in the air than 22 m. Babur flies at 2 m above ground level, practically ground flying... India is sitting duck for Babur, and it's even worse now cuz Babur has multi-tube launcher
 
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