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actually there is a back order at the lockheed martin plant, and there are still 144 plane ahead of our 36 thye MLU planes will be the stop gap, and can be ready in the next 3 years (2009) but the new planes are expected to be delievered around 2011-2012 (these are the rumours floating around...

what features would convice the PLAAF to get the FC-1 there were report the plane has great vertical maneravbility but normal horizontal maneravbility, therefore it can be used for CAS, and at 12 million each, but able to carry lgm and other advanced a2g weapons, and if modified to have a...

A fair share of the profits the federal government gets for sale of natural resources and the routes for the pipelines, considering baluchistan doesn't really have much in the way of agriculture a negociated development deal should be signed with the provincial government for development (the...

there are two key issue in the baluchistan problem, respect and money how much automnomy and respect baluchistan has, in it's system the second is royalities from gas wealth and other business done like pipelines ------------------- a fair government system in baluchistan should not be...

refueling is a planned future upgrade, and PAF sadat said we plan to get refuelers in the future (but we have to induct the jf-17 first, :rolleyes: )

you forget the refueling capability also the radar being looked at is a british one, the selex, according to some other forums, and the increase in price is under $5 Million on top of the current price of $12 Million, that is still within the acceptable PAF price range

The python 5 has a 50G sustainability, and has an advanced seeker pakistan is going for the a-darter, which is developed with the company that made the python 4/5; therefore the a-darter has a nearly as advanced seeker, and can sustain 40g's so pakistan is getting an advanced wvr missile...

hopefully from vls, to allow for larger ones, with longer ranges, and vls would allow many to be fired, like the in the amur 950

also getting an awacs, as we plan, will allow us to not only see far, but to see object hugging the ground, and will allow sams to pic those up a stelthy shapped weapon moving at on a terrain hugging course, would be hard to detect but wiuth an awacs, it migh tnot be picked up around 400km...

erieye is probably on hold, so that the earthquake rebuilding can go ahead full stream, and the vera is probably being tested with all the aviable systems pakistan has (and probably some brought in from europe and china to test out, to see how it works :?: ) but if the f-117 could be spotted...

and now saudi is thinking of spending $600 million on 150 al-khalid tanks

can some one post it

they hate pakistan having a strong military

Normandy was just the site, chosen for it's many superior characteristics, to get a foot hold in hilter's fortress europe it was relatively close to germany, and was occupied territory, so the people when liberated would be on the allies side, and therfore provide a safe area for the...

I became pragmatic, and decided to drop air refueling :?: :angel: because we can have 30 sites spread out across the country, and the money saved on planes, can go for more fuel (to make up for fuel used in decent and ascent) The question becaome what is pragmatic, for a defensive and...

It's the new Aegis ship Picture A model pakistan should look at as a possib;e future ship design to build with china (modified 054 Frigate with mini aegis radar, and VLS tubes)

I just read an article on the M2 motorway and the refueling points on it The government seems to be going for refuelers, but ground based ones, on the motorway, probabl all along the entire motorway system, but for now just the M2 motorway 600 Million could be better spent this way, build the...

The refuelers can make 200 state of the art as more, as sorties can be increased ---------------- refuelers should be procured alongside, f-16 procurement when 50% of the f-16 procurement is done, then 3 refuelers should be procured, when the f-16 deal is completed then another 3 should be...

@$47 Million each, a fleet of 9 would be real force multipliers, no matter what planes they refuel, they keep them up, and in the fight if needed of course this would be useful in war, as the rest of the air fleet would be useful in war, and almost useless in peacetime i agree there are...

Refuelers would increase sortie rates, and if before one f-16 made two sorties a day, and now does four a day, then that plane is almost like two planes I agree we have more pressing concerns, but we hould do this alongside F-16 Procurement and JF-17 Construction Refuelers Would allow (if this...