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I haven't read all the pages but I am just going to express my opinion here. I find myself a bit sympathetic to these Doctors. In short, IMHO, demanding fair wages for the work anybody does in a peacefull way is not a crime, it is absolutely fair. The 40K for a Dr in Pakistan in today's...

No, If we are to do it, then should be done in its full swing, so it gets a beautiful shape afterwards.

Breast feeding doesnt has to do anything like cutting a body part. so that is irrelevent here. I said already, most people dont do it for medical reasons, they do it for religious reasons. And some may try it to justify this thing done on religious grounds with any tiny health benefit. BTW...

Breastfeeding doesnt has to do anything with circumcision. It is a moral (or maybe religious) duty of a women to breast feed her child if she can but the state cannot force one women how she feeds her child. The state can intervene if the women is mistreating the child, keeping it hungary, or...

Check with an independent medical specialist if this is true.

The preventive measures should not remove any part of body unless a medical neccassity. If the foreskin needs to be removed because of any infection or anything thing like that, it should be removed. But as a preventive measure, I dont see the point given that there is no imminent risk of...

The funny thing is the intelligent eastners do beg for aid and textile qouta's from these retards, and large population of proud Asians struggles hard to get visas of retarded countries.

So it is okay to cut an organ to reduce the risk of any disease? i.e. Rather advising people to use condoms in unprotected sex or asking them to refrain from unprotected sex, one should cut everybody's penis,,, to prevent lices in hair especially women, everybody (incl. Women) should be skin...

Like not being circumcized will make the child sick whole life? If this were the case, more than 80% of Germany's population would have been sick and should die early. But surprizingly on average they live longer than majority of circumcized asians.. So does it has to do anything with...

No, any ault can change his name. It is possible and it doesnt removes any part of childs body against his will.

Atleast it does not holds in Germany. And those who cannot afford to wash themselves daily, I doubt they will get it done under proper care, unlike barbers in Pakistan who use one knife for whole town without sterilizing it.

Adults circumcision is not objected anywhere. Like in zimbabwe they are doing this:- Zimbabwe Lawmakers Get Circumcised in AIDS Fight :: EDGE on the Net Can somebody do vasectomy of Pakistani lawmakers so that they cannot buy multiple womens? So why do you suggest to cut that? and it...

Actually that is also not an issue since it todays age everybody can wash themselves everyday properly.

That is a medical neccasity. that cord is not an organ or is part of body. It is a pipe to get feed from mother. If they do not remove it, it will automatically dry out at its own but may also can cause infection to the baby.

Yes! Now with this ruling they are active with their anti-sementism card in Germany. Getting injection at birth or getting vaccinated is an medical neccasity that helps the child to stay alive and fight the diseases and doesnt removes any natural part of body.

I think there is no harm if an adult decides to get circumcised by a qualified doctor under proper hygeinic conditions. Doing this to under age boys by barbers should be forbidden, everywhere, including Pakistan. Maybe it is possible somewhat way. But I dont think the skin can be fully...

Well, both above arguments do not hold here. cutting umbilical cord is a medical neccasity and baptising does not do any irreversable damage or changes into a childs body. Once a child is an adult, it can change his belief the way he likes. But he cannot undo his circumcision. Again, I am not...

Actually, they way currently these circumcision s are mostly carried out, is pretty brutal. For example, see this video of some Dr. in India:- This even sounds a bit gentle but in rural Pakistan,, Nayee or barbers do this,, without any anesthesia..... and after cutting they just put ashes...

I havent read all the 13 pages of this thread if this has been pointed out... Circumcision IS NOT declared illegal in Germany,, with current ruling it would b forbidden for parents to decide if they want to chop their under age sons penis on any grounds other than neccasary medical grounds...

Same discussion in a topic in a Germany's local forum: Religious circumcisions are crimes says court - Toytown Germany