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  1. Pax Ottomana

    Germany tends lifting EMBARGO

    Yeah, what did you expect mate? Facebook, Twitter and a handful of other networks work hand-in-hand with US and EU governments. It's part of their "total control" system. They use these networks to both gather intelligence on suspects and also to control public opinion. Dieser journalist...
  2. Pax Ottomana

    Germany tends lifting EMBARGO

    Agreed. These back-stabbing mofos support terrorists against us and they dare embargo our defense projects and we're still trying to shop our parts/engines from them? What kind of a bullchit is that? Turkey should no longer buy any defense related products/parts/machinery from Germany and...
  3. Pax Ottomana

    Turkish Air Defence Programs

    I don't know man. Why should it take another 5.5 years to be ready after the 18 month development contract? That seems awfully slow. The development period with Eurosam ends in July 2019. Middle of the next decade is 2025. Something feels a little "off" here.
  4. Pax Ottomana

    GREECE refuses licence for German " Interdisciplinary" Survey Ship Meteor

    So long as Greece harbors and supports terrorists against Turkey, tries to steal what belongs to Cypriot Turks, treats its Muslim/Turkish minority like they don't exist, have delusions like Megali Idea, deny the Turks access to the Aegean with 12 NM territorial waters and does the West's bidding...
  5. Pax Ottomana

    Turkish Air Defence Programs

    https://www.reuters.com/article/france-turkey-defence-eurosam/turkey-awards-missile-system-study-to-franco-italian-group-turkish-firms-idUSL8N1P02NS Okay, so there's this statement: Turkey awarded the 18-month contract to the Franco-Italian Eurosam consortium... And also this statement: The...
  6. Pax Ottomana

    GREECE refuses licence for German " Interdisciplinary" Survey Ship Meteor

    Mate, this @NickGr guy is not an agent or a paid poster. He's just the average dumb but passionate grik who feels some pride because he's sticking up for his failed country and people in a forum where he's vastly outnumbered. Good for him. I say let him! He's adding some color and comic relief...
  7. Pax Ottomana

    Turkish "fighter" needs? What alternatives?

    Nope. We have not ordered 100 F-35s. We said we intended to eventually acquire that many over some years. There's a big difference here. There are only 6 solid orders at this time. With relations with the US deteriorating fast and Turkey intending to use the money on the TFX, I don't ever see...
  8. Pax Ottomana

    Germany tends lifting EMBARGO

    We can carefully do business with them. But never trust the back-stabbing Germans!
  9. Pax Ottomana

    GREECE refuses licence for German " Interdisciplinary" Survey Ship Meteor

    My fellow Turks... This sort of greed, hatred, barbarism and aggression displayed by even Grik civilians who visit this and other forums show exactly why we cannot afford to show any mercy in our next war with them. You saw how they just recently provided aid and asylum to FETO terrorists who...
  10. Pax Ottomana

    GREECE refuses licence for German " Interdisciplinary" Survey Ship Meteor

    There's no such thing as "international law". It there was, nations wouldn't be spending trillions of dollars on defense annually. The reality of the matter is that you take what you can. As for EEZ, it is all about what you can enforce. Long story short, Griks' mouths are writing checks that...
  11. Pax Ottomana

    GREECE occupied 16 Turkish Islands

    When the time is right all the islands of the Aegean Sea will be liberated and returned to their rightful owners, and so will Atina, Selanik and other Turkish-Ottoman cities.
  12. Pax Ottomana

    Macron, Erdogan to talk defense ties

    It is estimated that the terrorist cult of FETO is still about 50% as strong as they were prior to the failed July 15th coup, both financially and politically. That's still quite a serious threat to Turkey and requires extreme caution. We can never underestimate their reach and influence and...
  13. Pax Ottomana

    GREECE refuses licence for German " Interdisciplinary" Survey Ship Meteor

    Turks will never settle for anything less than 50%. And that's us being quite generous... You see, Northern Cyprus is already de facto a territory of Turkey, with de jure annexation remaining only as a formality. As things stand, Turks have access to 100% of the North's resources, which is a lot...
  14. Pax Ottomana

    Macron, Erdogan to talk defense ties

    Thanks man, that was a good read. I'm still unclear as to the extent of their technology Turkey will be able to access. The most key component appears to be the SMART-L (S1850M) radar and to an extent also the Sea Viper combat management system. The missile itself isn't difficult and Turkey is...
  15. Pax Ottomana

    GREECE refuses licence for German " Interdisciplinary" Survey Ship Meteor

    LOL. I have some time for sure, but very little of it can I waste on the hateful former subjects of the Ottoman Empire. We've got things to do. :) @NickGr Okay, whatever you say sunshine... Let's agree to disagree. Clearly neither of us can change our views on each other's countries or history...
  16. Pax Ottomana

    Turkish "fighter" needs? What alternatives?

    It is important for Turkey to acquire the few F-35s we'd already ordered --total of 8 I think, so far-- for several reasons: So that we can train with them so out pilots understand its flight characteristics, capabilities, limitations... So that it can be studied as a whole for back-engineering...
  17. Pax Ottomana

    Turkish "fighter" needs? What alternatives?

    Operational safety of the Turkish F-35s will depend heavily on Turkish-American relations, which has been a roller coaster ride for some time because of US' hostile actions in our geography. Once these planes have been delivered in quantity in exchange for billions of dollars of hard-earned...
  18. Pax Ottomana

    Turkish "fighter" needs? What alternatives?

    F-35s are coming for sure. But I'm not convinced that's necessarily a good thing as these planes are heavily networked and almost constantly connected to Lockheed Martin servers for software updates, bug fixes, feature upgrades, etc through the ALIS system. Turkey won't be inspecting every line...
  19. Pax Ottomana

    GREECE refuses licence for German " Interdisciplinary" Survey Ship Meteor

    @NickGr That's cute. But the fact of the matter is that Greece is barely even a sovereign country. It was "made up" at the weakest point of the Ottoman Empire by Western Powers. Prior to that it hadn't existed for centuries. You bunch have served as our slaves and bitches. Fast forward to today...
  20. Pax Ottomana

    Macron, Erdogan to talk defense ties

    Would you guys agree that the latest cooperation agreement with Eurosam is going to pretty much completely negate the need for Turkey to request the SM-2 from the US? SM-2 160 km 65000 ft Aster-30 120 km 65000 ft
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