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You mean this I think: And you are a liberal one. Were has gone that leader pic from your avatar? Zoroastrian ?

Personally I classify him a very democratic man. I wish all my nation has that highness. But be sure mate, he will do his duty if generosity does not lead to a satisfying result. Everybody is familiar with his decisiveness.

Thanks @WebMaster for choosing Era as mod. Without him this thread was nothing more than a sludge.

In my opinion, currently, every time Erdogan sees himself a little isolated in political arena, he uses the tactic of "we are in danger of coup" to re-achieve nation backup!

A solution which comes from a pure wisdom! how to change the west plan. helal olsun kardesim. This will change the risk to opportunity, apparently!

We concluded before this that secularism is needed but it is not enough. There are lots of successful secular states. Turkey founded by Ataturk, military was a must to save the secular state (although in some cases it was unjustifiably cruel) until the growth of awareness in the nation (do not...

We are here to discuss the cons, too. Tell us why do you think secularism is radical? We are eager to know about any possible weaknesses of secularism.

The abstract of the post by @S00R3NA's: If S00R3NA as a respected religious Iranian tells this then it is more valid now. and in my opinion the "Instrumental use of religion" is the biggest enemy of Islam, not west. I think we should face a fact. West is powerful. To the extent their...

Thanks S00R3NA, you are one of those I wait for his ideas. A religious one but a patriot. I know you are talking about majority of shia, but in a larger scope, is it possible that all the nation believe a single ideology? This should be the way a patriot thinks, proves your highness. I do...

Sanction is the direct result of miss-calculating the strength of so called "enemies" and utilizing a wrong foreign policy. Now has resulted in a state which is one of the most isolated countries in the world. The question is not why the economy is weak. The question is why should we face the...

We need this type of discussions here. realistic one I mean. Apparently regime counts on the fact that nation will never enters a harsh response and they have closed every path that leads to a soft change. Dangerous solution, isn't it? On both possible occasion it will cost a lot for the...

I think a better example is North Korea. So we reach a new conclusion. while secularism is vital it is not enough. We should demand a "liberal secularism". The future of Iran will be very dark, if, instead of accepting and solving our problems, we cover them with extravagance religious...

True, in fact on the bases of the performance of some secular countries, secularism is projected as anti-religion in Iran. These two concepts ie. secularism and anti-religion-ism are not inevitably associated. That was what I tried to say on post #363 but apparently I have made a wrong statement.

There are countries among blue colored part which their government is non-religious but they are not that free to be called as secular.

"Not having beliefs in anything" could be a believe for itself!

It is the duty of the secular state to remain neutral in order to secure equal rights in the country. What are the beliefs of nihilistic atheists?

People oppose religion as they find it intolerable, but it is very interesting they react in an intolerable manner as the same. The aim of secularism is to save society from allergic responses, regardless of personal ideas.

Because it may violate equality of other beliefs in public services. Are not all of these ideologies? Secularism will provide everyone the opportunity to have his/her ideology for free. And violating others freedom is illegal in a secular state.

Europe is secular but no one, there, is banned to do his/her religious practice if he wants. people are free to have any ideology they want. I mean anti religious governments not atheism which itself is kind of ideology. Secularism defines a minimum rights for humankind regardless of his...

keeping state and religion separated is to provide equal rights for every ideology. Anti-religion action means interfering in personal beliefs of people. As I said the only ideology which is not allowed in secular society is the one that do not tolerate others.