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Underestimating.... why should I underestimate.... I showed for my arguments with proper proof... and explanation not some ridiculous and stupid reason that the Al Khalid has to be better since it came later than T-80UD or the ERA must be Nozh since some time back you had a deal with Ukraine...

1. Ukraine developed Nozh because the Russian did not give ToT on K-5.... and stopped the supply to Ukraine. 2. Anything from Ukraine comes at a price... why would Pakistani official did pay a handsome amont for K-5 when they could get more advanced Nozh... or rather why waste time on Al...

:lol: If you are willing to spread information spread the truth and not false rumors.... your behaviour is showing your frustration.

Have you seen what is inside K-5 only Russians know that....Americans and Nato also know since they got their hands onto one tank. Not the Chinese and surely not the Pakistanis.... some people will here would argue that Chinese are close ally and :blah: :blah: however the fact is that Chinese...

1. Air gap is good in a manner small gaps are left and armor thickness is huge.... not like one huge gap on Al Khalid module. 2. Air gaps in armor as mentioned in first point makes shaped charge and HESH round useless... but KE and tandem charge warheads are effective the gap only increases...

Why don't you people read some text and pdf on ERA and its categorisation. Whatever ERA you use on Al Khalid Aorak1/2 are 1st gen ERA one is thin other is supposed to be heavy K-1 class.... no where close to 2nd gen K-5... and Nozh/Knife/duplet/triplet is 3rd gen along with Relikit and...

You talk like a school boy. You have no idea bout some how your assumption that Al Khalid is better than T-80UD rests on the fact that Al Khalid was introduced later [like JF-17 introduced later than F-16 makes J-17 better and you might bring in some PAF official claiming such in whatever...

And Why wouldn't you be sure. Type 85 Main Battle Tank Infact the 1st T-72 aquired by China from Iran was from Iran-Iraq war and in late 80s by the time Type 85 already had export orders and was rolling out of factories. The Chinese abandoned the design in favour of a new one when they...

http://www.fofanov.armor.kiev.ua/Tanks/MBT/t-80u_armor.html Other than that right at the end of composite armor contains thick HHA plates on both sides. 1.Armor T-80U/UD wins hands down. Here I would like to point out we did not consider K-5 era on T-80U/UD. 2.Fire power is more for...

Enlighten us on the rating you put there and how is Al Khalid a better MBT as compared with T-80UD. In terms of 1.Protection 2.Fire power 3.Mobility

1.BM Oplot and Al Khalid are from same time period doesn't mean they have similar level in protection or armor or any thing else. Type 85 is a modification of Soviet T-54 with weilded turret... while T-72 is a completely new design... even the turret size don't come close and you are talking...

Long time since last I don't recall the name... the destroyers will have smaller version of the one used on Aircraft carrier. This would work in conjuction with star Elta as FCR... making the coverage in different frequency band almost impossible to jam.

This is nothing. Go and read about SPY radar on Ageis...:lol:

The main search and track radar on the carrier will be L-band with range in exess of 800km to 1000km. The STAR radar on the destroyers alone would pick and track targets at 400km or so.

Actually most air-defense missile in IN do have the capabilty to kill this anti-ship missile in air.... don't be fooled by the speed... ability to make sudden and quick maneuvers... in strike mode.. is what matters in modern warfare. This missile would be like invincible in 80s... not today.

And one thought about the quality..... the mod coundn't resist trolling and thretening others for life. I wonder whats it like there in Pakistan... for the policing agencies.

Now that you've asked.... 1st thing this thread should be put into hall of fame here for being amongst the biggest fail. Science and religious views don't go together.... If some one is trying to bring in science ... He's like saying o God/Allah see I have finally found something to verify...

1. How did you conclude 550mm protection against shaped charge. 2.KE round has little effect of composite structure...... the intresting part would be the angle at which it strikes the armor... which is usually 60 degree hence the actual force on armor is cosine of the original value.

T-72M1M Ajeya main armor (60-70degree front arc) 450-550mm vs KE plus ERA heavy 1st gen... added upto 100-150mm extra protection. The best KE round in service with PA nazia DU 450-500mm penetration at 2km... only used on T-80UD and Al Khalid. Jingoism has its place but you can be...

Which is the sad part... a good soldier doesn't rest away banking on his last weapon.. he keeps polishing all his tools each ready to score their best shot... so that the last weapon is never used.