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Maybe. But then we'd have to pick sides and we will violate our own "bebas dan aktif" principle in our international relations.

Well Iver is a frigate not a destroyer and @Kalazan thinks that Indonesia might get a destroyer as well for the modernisation of the navy. That's why I was talking about destroyers and not frigates.

Haha bagus dong. I'd love to see Indonesia own a "Sejong the Great" class destroyer, but the question is: That thing has the AEGIS system and AN/SPY-1 radar on it. Would the US even allow us to have that technology? They've already cancelled 4 main tech transfers in the KFX project (AESA...

I've also seen Typhoon fly in the ILA and it seemed like it was almost as maneuverable as Su-35. I've also visited it's german production line in Manching and I have to say: that plane is super high-tech and the production line plus quality control is very strict. Not only it has HMD, it also...

Well, if we don't buy the Su-35, I myself prefer buying the Gripen NG because the package is the best for our developing industry and the plane itself is very good. I've seen the older Gripen C/D at ILA Berlin 2016 during the closed session and it was amazing. Add the ToT deal and the Erieye...

Thanks waz. You're a good person.

I already contacted waz. Hopefully he'll do something about this mess.

Hi waz. Sorry to bother you. I was at the Indonesian Military thread and there 2 new trolls there, named Ion and mejikuhibiu, trying to incite fights with Malays, flaming about Malaysia in an Indonesian thread, and they also keep writing in Indonesian. Would you kindly give them a warning or ban...

You've pulled your final straw

I'm Indonesian but I'd rather see them get banned directly rather than recieving "warnings". They spam this thread with unnecessary bullshit, mocking and trying to incite senseless fights, feeding trolls, and also not writing in english as the rules dictate. Disgraceful.

What forum? I'm not familiar with military forums in the internet.

Why the hell do you guys keep replying to that UMNO dumbass? Just click his profile, ignore, and done. You won't need to read his inflammatory posts ever again. Just. Ignore. Him.

If the US sent infiltrators to China is that bullying? No. That's an act of war because China can retaliate. Malaysia was just given freedom by the UK and we saw them as a puppet. We respect Malaysia now, but the situation in the past was different and nothing can change history. We knew, that...

Malaysia was given independence by the UK and we saw it as just a puppet for the UK. That was not bullying because we actually went against countries that are our equal,if not stronger than us. Remember they had the brits fighting for them directly. They even sent the SAS to Borneo to fight us...

Konfrontasi was not against a weaker country. It was against Malaysia AND the Brits. It was a fair fight. Your situation now on the other hand is just straight up a big country shitting all over the sovereignity of smaller countries because "we are stronger, what can they do?" THAT is bullying.

Problem is SL doesn't have a reason to bother changing the name of the ocean or sea. Their stronger neighbor is not a acting like a kid who's just found out that he's now stronger than his peers and decides to act like a thug, bully everyone around him, and takes anything he wants, because now...

If conflict does happen, with whom do you think most, if not all ASEAN countries would ally themselves with? If push comes to shove, you would be alone fighting the US, ASEAN, Japan, Taiwan, Australia and maybe NATO and South Korea. Russia probably won't even bother helping you because they've...

In SCS case? Not gonna happen. No country will give away their sovereignity for chinese "gifts".

You ARE bullying the smaller ASEAN countries. The smaller countries are just defending their EEZ from your bogus claim. You only started claiming SCS after your military starts to rise after your economic boom. That means, before your military is strong, you know that such claims are crazy. If...

Alone maybe not. But together with other ASEAN countries and maybe US. We do have a chance.