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    Lessons in hate and violence-undercover in a mainstream UK Muslim School

    Excellent point Roy Gaurav, I completely forgot about the creation of the EDL. YouTube - Muslim Extremists Abuse Royal Anglian Troops After Afghanistan Return, Barking- London 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN6TZ6HpheA&feature=related
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    Lessons in hate and violence-undercover in a mainstream UK Muslim School

    As am I. Based on what I've seen, it seems rather unlikely. Here they are preaching hatred against the host population on their very own turf and you wonder why people are reacting? The way I see it, Christian extremists have been sidelined to laughable proportions. Hindu extremists...
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    Lessons in hate and violence-undercover in a mainstream UK Muslim School

    Based on false intelligence. They had it coming. Its interesting how people start complaining when one responds to a terrorist like a terrorist isn't it? I'm not trying to get into a debate about Israel and Palestine, but purely from a strategic point of view, Israel has an iron grip on Gaza...
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    Lessons in hate and violence-undercover in a mainstream UK Muslim School

    Lol, strangely enough there have been such incidents in China, and boy did they set an example. (Hint: They were Uighur)
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    Lessons in hate and violence-undercover in a mainstream UK Muslim School

    So let me guess, this is an isolated incident that's being blown out of proportion? Temujin, you'd posted links to a similar documentary sometime ago, do you think you could put those up again?
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    Lessons in hate and violence-undercover in a mainstream UK Muslim School

    I'm pretty sure anyone investigating these folks will realize rather quickly that Indian Muslims are largely absent from such 'schools'.
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    Lessons in hate and violence-undercover in a mainstream UK Muslim School

    It almost sounds like you think Muslims are being 'victimized' in some fashion. I would really love to see some stats about the ethnicity of the 'students' and their 'professors'.
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    Lessons in hate and violence-undercover in a mainstream UK Muslim School

    Honestly, there's no point in creating threads like these. You'll either be called an 'Islamophobe' or some apologist will regurgitate the same old story about how it's simply an isolated incident that doesn't represent the whole community. Frankly speaking, we shouldn't care. It's not going...
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    TV boss Muzzammil Hassan found guilty of beheading wife

    ^^ I think beheading someone is pretty symbolic of an honor killing and that's exactly how its being interpreted by everyone that's familiar with the case.
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    TV boss Muzzammil Hassan found guilty of beheading wife

    I'm not twisting your words. I said 'I don't think its a problem in India THOUGH'. I never said anything about religion being the cause, I see it as more of a symptom. Also, I don't see how its a problem we share. We don't have anywhere near the sort of religious extremism you'd find in...
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    TV boss Muzzammil Hassan found guilty of beheading wife

    @Santro, we're having a discussion about honor killing so I think religious fundamentalism is on topic.
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    TV boss Muzzammil Hassan found guilty of beheading wife

    I agree. Perhaps I wasn't very clear, but that's sort of what I've been getting at from the start. Many people are indeed wondering whether Islam is compatible with western values, but Indians have nothing to do it. Religious fundamentalism isn't a problem in our society precisely because we've...
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    TV boss Muzzammil Hassan found guilty of beheading wife

    You're taking a while with you're reply so I'll be back in ~2 hours. (Not sarcasm, relax, something came up)
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    TV boss Muzzammil Hassan found guilty of beheading wife

    Deleted. Refer to Sohni Dharti's post.
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    TV boss Muzzammil Hassan found guilty of beheading wife

    His name has Hussein in it, not that it stopped him from winning by a landslide. And this is because they're 'Islamophobic'? There are no real issues, they're just plain ol racist? The whole country, in their largest cities? I see your point, but fortunately there are institutionalized...
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    TV boss Muzzammil Hassan found guilty of beheading wife

    It would've been bigotry if I was trying to blow a simple domestic homicide into something more sinister. He (ironically enough) ran a channel to combat 'negative perceptions' about Islam. He BEHEADED his wife. Try and tell me there isn't a religious angle there.
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    TV boss Muzzammil Hassan found guilty of beheading wife

    @Xeric, Maybe you and SMC are right. I didn't account for the general lack of knowledge regarding world affairs/geography among the American public.
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    TV boss Muzzammil Hassan found guilty of beheading wife

    @SMC My apologies to 'tareymareymarzi', it was you who tried to trivialize terrorism wasn't it? Make no mistake the Pakistani community has been in the limelight for all the wrong reasons recently. Americans, generally speaking, are 'geographically impaired' so I definitely see your point...
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    TV boss Muzzammil Hassan found guilty of beheading wife

    Lol, not all of us live in Edison. Also, I mean this. Faisal Shazad Aafia Siddiqui Farooq Ahmed Waqar Khan Umer Farooq Ahmed Abdullah Minni to name a few... We have bigots/criminals too, everyone does, what we don't have are homegrown terrorists and religious extremists. And...
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    TV boss Muzzammil Hassan found guilty of beheading wife

    Oh don't mention it. Rest assured that everyone else who reads this story (I mean in the states) will focus on precisely that aspect as well. We've had a string of incidents in the last year that are leading many people to believe that Pakistanis in particular are demonstrably incompatible with...
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