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@Foinikas, @Beny Karachun @MMM-E and all others here. And the conception of the tank itself - in general terms - will continue to exist as long as you don't have one-man mechs ala Avatar or Titanfall and equip them with laser Star Wars weapons. Because what simply brings the necessary...

Dude, read the link. :D https://www.rheinmetall-defence.com/en/rheinmetall_defence/systems_and_products/vehicle_systems/armoured_tracked_vehicles/panther_kf51/index.php There are all important infos. BTW, good teamwork, germanized (modified) and in Germany produced Spike missile family and...

@Beny Karachun. Autoloader is a necessity for the 130mm. And yeah, maintance for tracks is easier with a fourth crewman BUT you have higher costs and need larger space. The KF51 takes a modernized powerpack from the Leo2, transmission etc. but the hull and all other stuff is build with most...

1. They don't care (which is bad, I mean there is big corruption in Iran and regular army isn't trusted so much, same goes for most Arab states or even Russia) AND/OR 2. they can't, both don't speaks for Iranian leadership. PS: As a whole, in the end, Iran is in the long term better prepared...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_flying_aces "... 103 German fighter pilots each shot down 100 or more enemy aircraft, for a total of approximately 15,400 victories. ..." https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_Panzer_aces_from_Germany...

Yeah BECAUSE they are anti-Assad they only have reason to put the amount of civs killed by Turks lower. That was why I wrote it. :D After the motto, "MMM-E, Foinikas IS using a more or less PRO turkish source and still there they are admitting dead civilians..." :D And Leopard losses were "low"...

Mental Mehmetic Mülütary - Experiments.

SOHR 1 man based in GB who is anti-Assad... If FSA & consorts didn't evacuate and led NEUTRAL (especially pro-Assad) not out of cities = mimimi bad Assad. :D We saw useless TFSA militias who couldn't even support, wrong used old Leo2A4 which were not even with 2nd (1985/86) or 3rd gen (1988/89)...

Can't trust them, never would as a Greek. :D Remember when Germans gave them letterpress in short time of peace and then they attacked again. :D So, from the standpoint of "Realpolitik" it could be good in the end if Turks attack the islands and Greeks fight and die there (surely Turks too) but...

Sadly not my friend - a "united" Europe. Would that be the case, Turkey would already have lost it's destination for tourists, would be sanctioned to death and wouldn't get directly/indirect help in military development and dual use products. They wouldn't have the components for laser guided...

And that's the problem. Even the Turks are far from that what Mehmetcik Mülütary Master - Erdogan says, they can easily win on certain fronts against Greece and then his value in the political landscape is growing. So sad that we have spineless, corrupt, "liberal" politicans in Europe. If we...

What many on this forum DON'T understay is that IF Iran wasn't that hard sanctioned and could shop (nearly or completely to a certain point) in high tech western countries (like Turkey), it would be Dubai in civilian sector and military much more advanced than any other muslim country. I would...

Do you have something new and constructive to say? MMM-E Mehmetcik Mülütary Master - Erdogan

(M)ehmetcik (M)ülütary (M)aster - (E)rdogan will explain to us all that you are a greek LIAR, you'll see you uneducated TROLL.

Go ahead and modernize your FNSS ACV-15, which is all license built :D Even the new modernized variant is still using foreign cannon and stuff. Still producing the shitty GPV Colonel based Pars? 4x4 variant is to a certain point based on old Fennek 4x4. Still using Caterpillar & Deutz engines...

He is right in the case of the mess - to a certain point. Imo many things need to be upgraded by NOW available stuff and best german made products, there is so much potential. Otherwise, even a scratch on a vehicle = non operable after German standards. Same with tolerances in military equipment...

Listen boy, listen very well. IF Germans want - respective have the same aggressive politics in military sense as Turkey, it would be under top 5 in the world, even without pampering the military as a whole too much. Just some better things here & there, less hippity hoppity influence and clear...

According to the CFE Treaty Adaptation Agreement, Germany "may" have (in active units): 3444 battle tanks (weight >= 16.5 t, cannon >=75mm) 3201 infantry fighting vehicle (personnel transport and cannon >=20mm) 80 combat vehicles with heavy armament (weight >= 6.0t, cannon >=75mm) 2255 artillery...

100 billion but this was nessecary after 30 years of "wE dOn'T wAnT wEaPoNs" or anything military related ... IMO much too small. % of GDP should be 2.5% + 150 billion instead of 100 billion. No useless politic/lobby intervention, only military competent people should decide. Politicans need...

100 billion in 10 yrs or so was it? That's nothing for a so called pöwer cöuntry, that is what Germany spend on 50% of the non-working Turks, Arabs, Africans and fresh 2015 "refugees" in 2 yrs for social welfare. :D Would be better to built a few factories of German companies in Greece (and took...