Greece vs Turkiye Military Power : Tactical and Strategic Advantages

[Akritas]

I don't understand about the so called 4th generation warfare. Because from the day of forgotten era, all war are always about war and politic, combatants and civilian.

What distinguishes 4GW from earlier generations is that typically at least one side is something other than a military force organized and operating under the control of a national government, and one that often transcends national boundaries.

 

[MMM-E]

Turkiye has the best Attack Helicopter Fleet to compare with France , Germany , İsrael and Greece



Turkiye : 83 T-129 and 10 AH-1W Super Cobra
France : 68 TIGER
Germany : 51 TIGRE
İsrael : 47 AH-64 Apache
Greece : 29 AH-64 Apache

Turkiye : 93
Greece : 29

Turkish Army T-129 Attack Helicopters

 

[Foinikas]

Israel fought against 1.000 trash Hezbol militia which has no even air force and Israel had heavy losses in 34 days

So suddenly,YPG/PKK are super-soldiers and not bands of Kurdish terrorists?

You bragged about fighting ISIS in Al Bab. But you didn't mention that SDF and SAA were also fighting against them at the same time.

For a super-power Turkiye,it took you more than 3 months to conquer a town like Al Bab.

Turkish Army has the best experience in the World to fight against 4th generation hybrid warfare , urban warfare and guerilla tactics

Oh because NATO armies and Pakistan haven't been fighting against guerillas and hybrid warfare for 20 years,huh?

Turkiye : 83 T-129 and 10 AH-1W Super Cobra

 

[MMM-E]

For a super-power Turkiye,it took you more than 3 months to conquer a town like Al Bab.

and For a super-power USA+France+150.000 İraqi Army + Kurdish Pesmerge it took them more than 18 months to take Mosul


Outsiders with no ethics can't understand Turkish sensivity towards civilian life
We will never leave thousands of innocent deads behind us just like Assad, Russia or Usa


-- Turkish Army used only around 6.000 soldiers in Idlib
USA-France used 150.000 İraqi Army + Kurdish Pesmerge in Mosul

-- Turkiye did not use Fighter Jets and UCAVs in Idlib
American and French Fighter Jets bombed Mosul day and night

-- No civilian loses in Al Bab
10.000+ civilian loses in Mosul


even Turkiye has started military operation against ISIS after 30 days USA backed military coup attempt

only Turkish Army can do it in the world , because great real conflict experience since 1990

in 2006 Israeli Army sucked against 1.000 Hezbolah militia ....

 

[Foinikas]

and For a super-power USA+France+150.000 İraqi Army + Kurdish Pesmerge it took them more than 18 months to take Mosul

You must be of truly limited mental capacity.

You have said this exact same phrase like 2-3 times before and I told you back then: You compare Al Bab with Mosul? That's like comparing Izmir with a village in southeast Turkey.

-- No civilian loses in Al Bab
10.000+ civilian loses in Mosul

Yeah,because they all fled as soon as they heard the Turks were coming.

-- Turkish Army used only around 6.000 soldiers in Idlib
USA-France used 150.000 İraqi Army + Kurdish Pesmerge in Mosul

No they didn't.

And these were total forces around the city,in the province,not all of them fighting inside the city.

And we're talking about Mosul,not a town like Al Bab.

Outsiders with no ethics can't understand Turkish sensivity towards civilian life
We will never leave thousands of innocent deads behind us just like Assad, Russia or Usa

Just lol. Seriously....lol.

 

[MMM-E]

You bragged about fighting ISIS in Al Bab. But you didn't mention that SDF and SAA were also fighting against them at the same time.

in Al Bab , only Turkish Army fought against ISIS in Al Bab

Turkish Army always tried not to kill civilians in Operation ES in Al Bab.
still Turkish Army killed over 3000 ISIS terrorists and Turkish Army lost only 72 soldiers

even Turkish Army lost only 5 soldiers with gunshot ..
Turkish Army lost 67 soldiers with ISIS suicide bomb attacks and unknow Air strikes and Artillery attacks by Iran and Syrian Regime

 

[Foinikas]

in Al Bab , only Turkish Army fought against ISIS in Al Bab

Turkish Army always tried not to kill civilians in Operation ES in Al Bab.

https://www.syriahr.com/en/61502/

SOHR reported that 72 civilians were killed in Turkish airstrikes during the day, with another 23 killed on the next day.[112][113]

 

[MMM-E]

You must be of truly limited mental capacity.

You have said this exact same phrase like 2-3 times before and I told you back then: You compare Al Bab with Mosul? That's like comparing Izmir with a village in southeast Turkey.

You have no brain to understand my posts and military knowledge

I am saying again ignorant Foinikas

-- Turkish Army used only around 6.000 soldiers in Idlib
while USA-France used 150.000 İraqi Army + Kurdish Pesmerge in Mosul

--Turkiye did not use Fighter Jets and UCAVs in Idlib
American and French Fighter Jets bombed Mosul day and night

-- No civilian loses in Al Bab
10.000+ civilian loses in Mosul

Yeah,because they all fled as soon as they heard the Turks were coming.

what a stupid post from you as almays


ISIS never let civilians to leave Al Bab
ISIS used civilians as barricade against Turkish Army

https://www.syriahr.com/en/61502/

SOHR reported that 72 civilians were killed in Turkish airstrikes during the day, with another 23 killed on the next day.[112][113]

We dont care about lies from antTurkiye loser clowns and media

Turkiye did not use air strikes .... stop lying


and you stupid clown
SAA and İran backed Terrorists did not fight ISIS in Al Bab, they tried to take Al Bab when Turkish Army killed over 3.000 ISIS Terrorists

even Turkish Army lost soldiers from air strikes and artillery attacks by SAA and İran backed Terrorists

fck off now ignorant sht

 

[Foinikas]

what a stupid post from you as almays


ISIS never let civilians to leave Al Bab
ISIS used civilians as barricade against Turkish Army

On 3 February, UN Secretary-General Stephane Dujjaric estimated that around 30,000 civilians had fled al-Bab, and that 10,000 still remained inside of the city.

We dont care about lies from antTurkiye loser clowns and media

Turkiye did not use air strikes .......... stop lying

You are in denial.

 

[MMM-E]

On 3 February, UN Secretary-General Stephane Dujjaric estimated that around 30,000 civilians had fled al-Bab, and that 10,000 still remained inside of the city.

You are so pathetic and ignorant

when Turkish Army killed thousands of ISIS Terrorists , then civilians have started leaving Al Bab

6 November 2016 - 23 February 2017
and , UN Secretary-General Stephane Dujjaric talked about the last 20 days of conflict ( On 3 February, )

You are in denial.

We dont care about liar losers

Just lol. Seriously....lol.

typical christian and zionist media with full of lies against muslim Turks

losers keep crying

Barbarian savage Greeks tried to kill all Turks to take whole Island between 1964 and 1974

in finally Turkish Army kicked dirty Greek asss in 1974

 

[reflecthofgeismar]

On 3 February, UN Secretary-General Stephane Dujjaric estimated that around 30,000 civilians had fled al-Bab, and that 10,000 still remained inside of the city.


You are in denial.

SOHR 1 man based in GB who is anti-Assad...
If FSA & consorts didn't evacuate and led NEUTRAL (especially pro-Assad) not out of cities = mimimi bad Assad.
We saw useless TFSA militias who couldn't even support, wrong used old Leo2A4 which were not even with 2nd (1985/86) or 3rd gen (1988/89) basic armor built.
The loses were - even the old Leo2A4 aren't good - bc of pathetic turkish "tactics".
I could bet Turks would do the same mistakes but only saved by ukrainian copied APS.

 

[Foinikas]

You are so pathetic and ignorant

I showed you the facts and all you can say is "you are pathetic and ignorant".

A thousand people will tell you something,you will still call them "pathetic" and "ignorant".

Sir,you have problems. Please,please try to seek help from an expert. Seriously.

 

[reflecthofgeismar]

I showed you the facts and all you can say is "you are pathetic and ignorant".

A thousand people will tell you something,you will still call them "pathetic" and "ignorant".

Sir,you have problems. Please,please try to seek help from an expert. Seriously.

Mental Mehmetic Mülütary - Experiments.

 

[Foinikas]

SOHR 1 man based in GB who is anti-Assad...
If FSA & consorts didn't evacuate and led NEUTRAL (especially pro-Assad) not out of cities = mimimi bad Assad.
We saw useless TFSA militias who couldn't even support, wrong used old Leo2A4 which were not even with 2nd (1985/86) or 3rd gen (1988/89) basic armor built.
The loses were - even the old Leo2A4 aren't good - bc of pathetic turkish "tactics".
I could bet Turks would do the same mistakes but only saved by ukrainian copied APS.

I usually don't quote SOHR,but when you have guys saying Leopard 2A4 losses were just a few and denying there were any civilians dead,well then you have to show him something,even from SOHR. Because these weirdos might be Anti-Assad,but they didn't lie about this. Of course,in MMM-E's mind,it was a great operation,no casualties,all rainbows and fun.

 

[MMM-E]

I showed you the facts and all you can say is "you are pathetic and ignorant".

you cried as always .. nothing else


only Turkish Army without airforce can do it without civilian loses ....

Cowardly USA-France Airforces bombed Mosul day in night 18 months and killed over 10.000+ civilians