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OH PLEASE KID,dont be a FAN BOY.. i have posted above an official LIST.. and NAWAZ is too big of coward thats why he got pressurized by USA when INDIA begged USA to pressurize pakistan...LOL! as for 4,000 read again what i said... MUSHARAF said pakistan had to suffer 470 casualities.. and i...

DID YOU EVEN BOTHER TO WATCH THE WHOLE VIDEO?? lol...you say pakistan did not accept bodies...check what musharaf is saying in the video.. and here is an official list of casualities.. which unfortunately you fan boys exaggerate to 4,000 WHEN TOTAL NUMBER OF STRENGTH NEVER EXCEEDED 5,000 ON...

dont let us now turn this thread into history thread, however just for ur info,last time even ur bharatrakshak was mentioning more kills to PAF, otherwise go and check gen. chuk yeager's autobiograghy,check john flicker's views.. hope you will get...

HMMMM...so you dont think that jf 17's RCS is 1m2 ( clean ) while 3-4m2 ( loaded ) and MKI's RCS is as big as elephant, first lets move to jf 17's RCS, the jf 17's RCS is believed to have been lowest in the current PAF inventory which includes block 52 ( remember block 52 has 1.2m2 RCS in...

hey are you simply quoting vayu sena tripod here? go through very 1st page of this thread,

hi,since you are very new to this forum, we can expect such aweful assumptions from an indian fan boy... true,no airborne radar in PAF is comparable to MKI's PESA radar, but wait,have you really gone through the very 1st page of this thread? i dont think so, MKI has good radar but it has...

dont all of you think HMS is very important part of WVR scenerios now? so why no HMD for either block 1 or block 2?

you mean HMS is ready for block 1 and can be used in the war scenerio right now?

you mean HMS is ready for block 1 and can be used in the war scenerio right now?

guys lets concentrate on jf 17 multirole thread 4, no need for a different thread...!

must give a read to jf 17 information pool thread to update ur knowledge,

so it can be assumed that block 1 is having RAM ( though very very limited )

but sir in najam bhai's book on jf 17 thunder,it was stated that the area along the side of fuselage is coated with RAM...!

can any body tell me here with full responsibility that whether JF 17 has a RAM paint or not? sorry if it has been answered earlier....!

@sameeullah nice to see you here sir,

LOL!!!! now i have realized that you are really a KID, YOU say lock on range is 160 km so SUKHOI will shoot JF 17 at 160 km.. first off,140-160 km range is for F-16 block 15s which have an RCS of 5m2 jf 17 has 3m2 RCS while its fully loaded, now give me a link that says india has R-77M...

are you kidding? so you need a source to believe that MKI has huge RCS? its a well known fact that MKI has 20m2 rcs while its fully loaded, http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/india-russia-close-to-pactnext-generation-fighter/381718/ well,as for ur claim of 140km against 2m2... is...

what ur post actually shows? we know it it has 350-400 km search range, but the range against a fighter sized object i.e 5 meter sqaure is 140 km according to official specs, so considering the MKI's huge RCS,its assumed that JF 17 will detect MKI earlier,

sorry off topic but any one please tell me,is super sukhoi going to have stealth features or will the RCS remain same as of current MKI ?? again sorry for off topic post,

according to kanwa report the KLJ on board block 1 has 130 km against 5m2 after tweaking the range, expect some more from KLJv2 :argh: