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    Foreign Secretary Jaishankar visits China ahead of NSG plenary in Seoul

    The biggest thing India can offer to China is support on SCS, officially Indian and Chinese position at UN align as both India and China are against FONOPS in territorial waters but India has been playing a double game by temporary backing the US. This is a huge concern for China as outside of...
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    What Pakistan is exporting to world?

    durrani is a genius! masterclass performance..
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    Confirmed Pics of T-129 in different altitudes & climates in Pakistan

    Sure but can Pakistan buy them en masse? I think you guys made a good play utilizing CSF credit to buy them when you could thus utilizing fund before Congress closed that avenue for military purchase. In such a scenario US would be happy selling engines, Some sale is better than no sale. At...
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    Confirmed Pics of T-129 in different altitudes & climates in Pakistan

    Don't think it is a problem though when we are selling you guys top shelf choppers ourselves
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    Indigenous HTT - 40 makes inaugural flight.

    Fair enough. I assumed there would be some kind of engineer holding pool
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    Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions [Thread 2]

    become a treaty ally Treaties are only worth as much as the enforcing entity. The fact remains US is alone capable of that enforcement
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    Indigenous HTT - 40 makes inaugural flight.

    Perhaps I wasn't clear, I meant both being Govt agencies and drawing scientists from the same pool of Govt Engineers and scientists
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    Indigenous HTT - 40 makes inaugural flight.

    Don't they have access to similar if not same pool of HR?
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    Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions [Thread 2]

    India is using US fear of China? While on planet earth - China is next door to India and US is continents away. Worst case scenario for US- We leaves you guys to fend for yourself. Worst case scenario for India - combined Sino-Pak invasion kicking Indian butt! and there is nothing India can do...
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    ASELSAN has sold 16 E/O ASELPODs to Pakistan for $25 million

    No it's not but you guys buying Chinese avionics given them legitimacy and gives you a leverage which you can cash in later. My argument is not made from a technical stand point but political. So while you are right in wanting the best, there is also an argument to be made for a long game.
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    Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions [Thread 2]

    Did we? All India has, it has thanks to US. Without US there would be no nuclear waiver at NSG, No MTCR. All the UNSC and NSG hopes would not even have been born. Where was India before it's rapprochement with US? Dependent on aid and a minor league player even below Pakistan in almost all of...
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    ASELSAN has sold 16 E/O ASELPODs to Pakistan for $25 million

    IMHO this is a short term tactic rather than a strategy. China is likely to achieve parity with Europe in coming years when it comes to critical defense tech. It would have been better to go for Chinese pods even if they are sub-optimal and work with them to improve the product so as to gain...
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    Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions [Thread 2]

    Have a look at how many major defence deals we have closed with India in past 10 years and how many France has closed. That's the problem with Europe, you guys are too stubborn and lack that final push and leverage. US on the other hand as huge portfolio of economic, political and defense levers...
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    Arguments of choosing JF-17 Thunder over JAS-39 Gripen

    Yeah, true. The break is yours. There is nothing really much to talk about as Manticore said I dont believe the JF-17 or for that matter any Chinese origin Jet brochure. I will look forward with great interest when JF17 enters into competitive bidding by third parties. Chances are low, as till...
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    Arguments of choosing JF-17 Thunder over JAS-39 Gripen

    I wouldn't put it so harshly but pilots are like mothers, they think their jets are the best. So their word cant be taken at face value.
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    Arguments of choosing JF-17 Thunder over JAS-39 Gripen

    Thanks for providing the source. With all due respect to manticore, the source as i suspected is not based on technical on -field evaluation but quotes and such. I can't really fault it as JF-17 has never been involved in competitive bidding process where a neutral party evaluates each claim...
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    Arguments of choosing JF-17 Thunder over JAS-39 Gripen

    Three things 1. What does the Chart prove? 2. Source of the chart? 3. Article has speculation and quotes? Lot of people make optimistic plans. Seldom do they pan out according to schedule.
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    Arguments of choosing JF-17 Thunder over JAS-39 Gripen

    This! This is the correct and sensible answer. JF-17 is the right choice due to 100 other reasons but you can't diss off other products just because you have chosen JF-17.
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    DRDO ERA MK2 & Anti thermal, anti laser smoke grenade

    any progress on Future Main BattleTank procurement? All this is a holding action. Will be indeed interesting to see if India again goes back to it's D(R/O)DO or this time gulps down it's pride and lets new players come in 2/3 configuration
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    Arguments of choosing JF-17 Thunder over JAS-39 Gripen

    Well anyplace else you would be laughed out of the room but here baseless assertions will get you brownie points. As for facts - Show me block 3 prototype? DO you seriously believe that a jet which has not closed it's avionics, propulsion and structure validation can enter serial production in...
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