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    Expansion of PN to counter Indian Navy

    PN F-22P Zulfiquar class 3 in service. +1 to be commissioned next year. Tariq Class 6 in service F-260 PNS Alamgir 1 in service. How PN plans to counter the increasing force of Indian Navy ? Shivalik Class 3 in service Talwar Class 4 in service + 2 wil be commissioned...
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    PNS Azmat Class - Fast Attack Missile Craft | Updates & Discussions.

    When PN cannot afford the replacement of 32 - 35 year old frigates, you can even talk of a new acquisition. The Cost of SSBN is around 1 Billion $ + High operational cost. Plus add 2-3 Billion $ as R&D cost .....
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    How PAF Should Counter the SU-30 MKI

    Just give me any source which clain tat KLJ-7v2 has a detection range of 130 kms for 5m2 rcs target. And also for ur statement tat KLJ-7 is superior to ZHUK ME. Thats all i need & nothing else. Just 2 Links ..... Can u get it ?
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    How PAF Should Counter the SU-30 MKI

    Let PAF induct atleast 1st J-10 a b c d e or any version. Then we can discuss. & u guys have a plan for only 36 of these fighters. By the time PAF has 36 J-10 ... IAF wil have 270 SU-30mki. The ranges are all correct. Pls point out the mistake so i can correct it.
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    How PAF Should Counter the SU-30 MKI

    You cannot compare Su-30MKI. with JF-17. Both are different class of fighters. If F-16 was so good why did USA even built F-15 ? Heavy fighters are necessary to DOMINATE the opponent. Why is China Manufacturing/Developing J-11 when they already have J-10 ? Single engine fighters are good for...
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    How PAF Should Counter the SU-30 MKI

    Do u think that KLJ-7 V2 is Superior to ZHUK ME on MIG-29M. Zhuk ME is the latest Operational radar on MIG-29. ZHUK ME has as a range or 120 kms for 5m2 RCS. KLJ -7 is based on russian Phazotron N010 Zhuk radar which is a generation below ZHUK ME. Single engine fighters cannot support high...
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    How PAF Should Counter the SU-30 MKI

    N011M Bars has 2 Variants ..... 4 kw & 6 kw. Almost all websites give the figures for the 4 kw variant. Su-30MKI has the 6 kw variant & hence the range slightly differs. This is the reason tat the IAF wil just upgrade & not change the radar in MKI's 1st upgrade. In a training exercise against...
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    How PAF Should Counter the SU-30 MKI

    Sir, Thats wat m saying ..... my numbers are same as those in ur link. 200 is the max tracking range. & my calculations are correct. West uses a standard 3 m2 rcs while describing the range of radar while Russia uses 5 m2 or 10 m2. For Example ZHUK ME on MIG-29 has 120 kms range against 5 m2 RCS...
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    How PAF Should Counter the SU-30 MKI

    The 3rd para of my post. "Let us assume the RCS of LOADED [Air Combat] JF-17 is 2 m2 RCS & tat of SU-30MKI is 10 m2 RCS. N011M Bars can TRACK earlier block F-16 at 160 - 165 kms & Block 52 at 140 kms. RCS of block 52/60 is estimated at 1.5 m2." 140 - 160 kms is the Tracking Range. N011M...
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    How PAF Should Counter the SU-30 MKI

    85 % of 120 is 102 kms ..... that is the tracking range of JF-17 for 5 m2 RCS. For 10 m2 RCS The Detection Range of KLJ-7 will be around 135 - 140 kms. KLJ-7 is not a high power radar. So as the Target range increases, The tracking range % gets reduced due to loss of power & disturbance in...
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    How PAF Should Counter the SU-30 MKI

    Even 130 kms wont make any difference ..... you have to accept that N011M Bars outclasses ur KLJ-7 v1 or v2 easily & it was inducted in 2003 where as u are now inducting v2 ..... more then 9 years later & even then it is much inferior to N011M Bars & Su-30MKI combination. JF-17 was never...
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    How PAF Should Counter the SU-30 MKI

    UNBIASED ANALYSIS KLJ - 7 Radar On JF-17 Has a DETECTION range of 120 kms for 5 m2 RCS Target [Claimed by Senior Members but officially it is between 90 - 100 kms]. TRACKING range is 80 - 85 % detection range. Therefore @ 85% the tracking range of KLJ-7 for 5 m2 RCS is 102 kms. The pilot has to...
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    From Russia With Love? China vs. India Carrier Showdown

    PLA(N) has a lot to learn about AC operations.
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    India starts work on second indigenous aircraft carrier

    We should allow private shipyards in construction of warships...... There is more scope of innovation & new designs.
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    India to revive military base in Farkhor, Tajikistan

    Can we use this base in war time ? does the agreement provide India complete control of the base ?
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    India wants Narendra Modi & not Rahul Gandhi as PM

    Rahul has always proved himself as incompetent leader .....
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    PNS Azmat Class - Fast Attack Missile Craft | Updates & Discussions.

    The youngest of tariq class frigates is 32 years old & oldest is 35 years. Does PN have any REPLACEMENT plans for 6 TARIQ class frigates ?
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