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exactly, we should no more look towards US for platforms that we can get from other reliable sources. if we analyze our position and past experiences witth US, the Mi-17 is no doubt a far better option for us then the black hawk! regards!

all old vedios sir but still worth watching for a second time. really make us proud!!:pakistan:

and these are in addition tothe one SAAB plane initially received for crew training. i mean we have now two oprational Erieye systems, two eyes in sky!! :pakistan: :yahoo:

very right sir, unless we have got enough done in much more important fields like the ones you and Mastan Sb have been pointing too it wont be wise to invest in such projects like engine manufacturing. i will be a huge technological leap to get started with manufacturing of jet engines a home...

oh sorry sir! actually my browser was having some problems and thus only the first pic that you quoted was displayed. i am sorry, i hope you inderstand. i only saw the pic of land rover displayed in IDEAS that you quoted: hope you understand!

this is the Land Rover Pakistan army currently uses. what we are talking about is an Armoured defender jeep and that is bound to be better then this one!

well it is really shamefull to see senior members involve in such childish activities!!!

Bshit!!! actually there was a very intresting news report in reply to this news item being aired by not so well know news channel. it was the Royal News (of Pakistan) that aired a long news report claiming that US is trying to console Pakistan by giving LGB as on the other side of border they...

only way to bring down the price for PAF is to float a joint order by Saudia, Pakistan and turkey... in the way the number may even go as high as somewhere around 150!!! we know Saudia is intrested in buying some 72 pplanes. now if we another 72 atleast will be jointly ordereed by PAF and...

i mean to say that once we have proved our metal is worth enough and have eastablished our name in market there are lot of things that can be floated in the market. pakistan is currently producing some of the worlds finest Tanks, APCs and now also entered Aircrafts!

rightly said sir! infatc i was quite shocked by the posts of Sir AzadPakistani and some other members.... it is not just the dollars comming to us but as you said it is about getting the ball rolling!!! Pakistan is not known in world for its defence exports! example that come to mind is that...

hopefully it wold be launched by a home made rocket it is very unlkely in this short span of time. however if this does happen it would also pave way for pakistans ICBM and that too would be under good cover!!!

wonderfull work brother cabatli! hats off to you, although i think this thread would have been better if in right section of world ilitary affair. yes as some other members have suggested that MBRL and air defence misiles are the areas in which pakistan must seek turkey helps. pakistan and...

but sir considering that what we have in shape of F16z is just blk 15 planes whereas as Mirage V have also undergone ROSE upgrade package. thus i tend to agree that the mirages we have a=in service are better then the F16 operated by PAF, atlaeast in role of strike fighter!! what do you think?

yes sir you are quite right!! atleast one hardpoint should be added immediately to accomodate a targetting POD! in this way the problem will be sorted out to some extent as we can use multiple pylons to fit more them one bomb on one single hardpoint thus it will be fine enough in CAS role!

is there any thing official regarding this or is it just your speculation???i mean i havent heared any thing about it and neither do i think any thing like this will happen as it will involve a complete design changing!!

we may well see Iran following in the steps of PAF with J10 as high end fighter and JF17 as main stay role... all that is required in good marketing! hopefully we will get some orders and this will be helpfull for our forces!! thanks!

well the Yuan class can not be termed as an alternative to U214 deal... but yes it can be a fall back plan or even a future potential buy after the U214 as then they can be modified accordig to experience PN dockyard will get after the agostas and u214z! thanks!

but sir this do not mean that as the frigate projects are costing us good six to ten years so better be contend with patrol boats... i mean, good they are comming for free,, we need thm to patrol our shores but the need for bigger and heavier vessels stays there. missing the opportuinity to...

Good for turkey but we must not spoil our $$ when AK and AK2 can do the job... by the way AK2 is by no means a rumor!!! it well on its way friends!! thanks!