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India is not stupid as pakistan to not realize that we are 4 times smaller than china if economy is concerned.So no,we dont want china as an enemy. On the other hand its in chinese interests not to court india as potentially india is the future competitor of china maybe 30 years down the line.No...

They are, also LOAN nozzles are used unlike the pakfa. They have the money,resources and talent to compete and beat anyone except USA at th moment.Its a sad reality but anyways we are discussing use of our limited budget here.

U are missing the point here.I am mere speculating about allocation of the resources. If u want an aesa in a jaguar and are spending huge bucks for it,u want it in a point defence fighter like mk1 then its criminal and stupid to delay that on big frontline fighters like mki and...

Stop quoting me with stupid statements.

So chinese have no aesa? Ignorant statement........sad really.Infact its laughable what u just said. Its no secret what INSAS is,no point in defending it.It was good in early 2000's maybe just like Bars PESA,not anymore.If u like to be an ostrich,u sure can though.

Sure.

Brahmos is not for air to air superiority.Its for deep missions. There is no comparison on importance of brahmos-a negating the need for a better radar in a jet.Its nothing but a poor planning. The RFI for MMRCA was specific that an aesa should be there,same goes for the mk1a and mk2.The...

Oh and what makes u think that?? Please elaborate. Looks like he found his typical audience :rofl: No 4.5 gen plane has anything over rafale........not even close. I would say too well maybe for his own good.

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What is so thoughtful in this? We are equipping even jaguars and mk1a with aesas and mki continues with a 20 years old PESA design? They are supposed to be frontline of the force,what a joke.That should have been a priority rather than paltry 36 rafales ordered.Same is the condition with...

Nonsense. Avionics mean shit when u are detected from 150 km.And vs SU-57 or J-20 it will be. Be my guest and compare these 3 yourself..... The internal weapons bay means a lot here,with full or partial load the rcs of rafale will be 20-30 more times than any 5 th generation.How do u expect...

MKI already has a lot of western systems but radars in russian jets are russian as of now.I guess the russians want the upgrade contract too for the obvious reasons otherwise if the developer wants,any radar can be fitted. Engine....no for obvious reasons as the size has to be maintained etc

Dont quote people who have 0 defence knowledge. Maybe tejas is shit....argue and prove with facts rather than making silly assumptions.

Nope....its already obsolete vs any 5 th generation considering the price point. Almost all chinese and even pakistani fighters will be sporting aesas in next 5-10 years so stealth will be very crucial at that point. I have no problem with rafale if we had more money,we simply don't.The premise...

I couldnt care less if they survive or not. They need to just concentrate on tejas.They havent put on any notable avionic in tejas itself which is a 4 th gen jet apart from some rwr's etc.We couldnt make a pulse doppler radar(sad) and we couldnt even make the radome for the imported radar(el/m...

The MOD has no money for anything,trust me.Too much has been spent and will be spent on rafale.Rafale for all its glory(its really good,no doubt) is just too costly for india in the world of stealth. No matter what fanboys keep on saying,when u pit it vs a j-20/f-35/su-57 it wont survive,there...

Yeah and will also have avionics that are older by a decade,RCS more than 3-4 times ,an engine that has 1/3 of the life span compared to m-88,no modern maws/rwr's.So i dont really understand this shitty comparison. Defence journos are so ignorant that they just analyze the cost,i have not read 1...

All the mki's,not just the new ones need serious engine and radar upgrade.The avionics are 10 years past their date already atleast. The engine is bad,we can try for 117s of su-35 but the size is larger and fit wont be possible without the structural modifications. As for the radar,russians have...

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