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    Pakistan might be considering opting for 18 more F16 Block C/D

    Do you have any evidence of the MANY Pakistanis handed over? Please name just 3 of them. Firstly, that Baradar guy or whoever, is not a pakistani and is not handed over to U.S. but rather he is an afghani and might be handed over to afghanistan. And secondly, would you rather keep these...
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    Pakistan's UAV - Drone developments

    Pak to build drones soon with US help: Mukhtar GUJRAT: Defence Minister Chaudhry Ahmed Mukhtar ruled out the possibility of stopping drone attacks, but added that Pakistan will soon begin manufacturing drone planes with the US assistance. :what: The Defence Minister was talking to media in...
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    Thanks a lot. Its a privilege to be a part of it.

    Thanks a lot. Its a privilege to be a part of it.
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    French JF-17 Deal Could Anger India

    There's a popular saying that " a bird in hand is worth two in the bush". If you read the article, it says the deal has "full french govt. backing".
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    Should Pakistan trade in F16'sfor F22's?

    Sorry, if I see no "thoughts" in there just some childish stuff. Unless this thread meant to win the most useless thread ever? If so, you win hands down. I have a suggestion, and please do not take it as an offense. But do spend some time and through some of the threads as it will give you a...
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    First Squadron of JF-17 Inducted on 18/02/2010

    damn, would love one of those guns ;)
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    First Squadron of JF-17 Inducted on 18/02/2010

    Finances! The first squadron was to be formed in late 2008, but govt. had no finances. So the PAF had to wait till credit facility became available to them by the Chinese govt. The current planes (the first 50) are being bought on seller's credit. People here do not realize how financially...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 3]

    Well, I can tell you that since PAF has made it clear in previous interviews. The first batch planes will not have IFR, at least as of yet. From second batch onwards, they will have it. Also the planes of the first batch might later be fitting with IFR since provision is being made in the...
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    First Squadron of JF-17 Inducted on 18/02/2010

    First Squadron of JF-17 Thunder inducted in PAF ISLAMABAD, Feb 18 (APP): Another major milestone was achieved when the first Squadron of JF-17 Thunder formally joined fighter aircraft fleet of Pakistan Air Force on Thursday. A ceremony for the formal induction of JF-17 Thunder aircraft...
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    Is J10B and FC20 same fighters..

    Please don't spread misinformation about things you have little knowledge of. FC-20 is a JF-17 thunder?...what? The chinese (by this I mean CAC) designation for JF-17 is FC-1 (also known as Xiaolong which means dragon). But that is the designation of CAC, not the chinese airforce, PLAAF...
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    First Squadron of JF-17 Inducted on 18/02/2010

    And the first picture of the ceremony
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 3]

    There's news of Egypt negotiating for a fighter "in cooperation with a foreign party". This was said by Chairman Arab Production, Lt. Gen. Hamdi Wuhaiba, who said "Defense Ministry was convinced that local production of such an aircraft would accommodate the requirements of the armed forces at...
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    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    The first four MLU aircraft are undergoing work in Fort Worth, Texas as of now. The schedule for delivery of these aircraft is December 2011. The rest of the MLU, as we know, will be done at TAI, Turkey. The MLU upgrade kits will include (in addition to STAR structural upgrade): APG-68(V)9...
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    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    Thats a false/misleading statement. PAF will start receiving the blk 52 F-16 from June, but not all 14 of them will arrive in June. Here's the schedule of the F-16s blk 52+ that PAF had purchased: four aircraft will be ready in June 2010; four aircraft in August 2010; five aircraft in october...
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    French Avionics for JF-17

    @Kharian Beast Fair enough if you think I quoted out of context, and do not wish to continue further. As for the rest, I did my homework and do stand by my points but you are entitled to have your opinions on the JF-17. As far as the J-10 project is concerned it has some of the same issues...
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    French Avionics for JF-17

    I have had enough of this. Kharian Beast, I am sorry but I found quite a bit of amateurish stuff and not-so-well thought out ideas in your post, making it look like we live in some utopia. Not only are some of your ideas very vague and biased to support your argument, but you have also...
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    Why did PAF not buy F16/BLOCK 60

    From what I know, there are two things to this - Firstly, while PAF was reviewing the option of going for more F-16s, once the option became available, it was indirectly conveyed (not officially) that getting approval for the block 60 will be harder. For those with some experience, a hint is...
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    A Perspective on Regional Air Power

    A Perspective on Regional Air Power According to media reports India has recently embarked on the most ambitious air power modernisation programme in its entire history. The proposals include the 126 MMRCA for US $10 billion, ten C-17 heavy lift transport aircraft worth $2.4 billion, eight...
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    Pakistan's UAV - Drone developments

    We are already developing UCAVs with help from China and turkey. InshaAllah, we will see the results soon.
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 3]

    Lots of them but just to mention a few here - JF-17 04 with a previously unseen modern glass cockpit - Highly processed information instead of raw data using all digital integrated electronic display - High level of sensor integration - Focused and integrated interference for EW and ECM -...
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