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I said this earlier in this thread. Few screamed so I gather there is a consensus. In light of this: “Why Antiwar (and a Plan to End Militancy) Action for a Progressive Pakistan” above I will suggest that the following: The army is planning to go into Waziristan, possibly in June...

I have read their comments and discussion not to mention COIN manuals from various nations. End of comment

Ok lest get something quite clear. Doctrine as such seldom make cycles for ever in the short term which I suspect is what you feel has been expressed. Doctrine is written so it has changes but these will normally only occur at worse every 6 – 12 months depending on theatre of Ops. Normally...

Nadja: Yes, but what is the Pakistan Army’s doctrine regarding it? Counterinsurgency/COIN is a military doctrine. As it is a doctrine it is not accessible/detailed etc to the public in most/nearly all countries. Such documents will carry a security classification of sorts. In the case of...

any real change of providing some form of link to this? helps to substantiate the comment.

I think we are on similar pages but the words, though different, mean the same thing.

If i criticize the firemen for breaking my door in the effort to save me then would you not call me crazy? I would call you crazy anyway as we both know you stated the fire to get the insurance money.. :lol: :cheers:

Don’t degrade yourself with comments like this. In most countries few know what COIN or CI doctrine is. It is a military concept and has little to do with the average civi in the street. So bluntly one would not expect most Pakistanis to know what COIN/CI is or how it functions. If I walked...

Are you trying to say don’t trust anything or anyone?

Not actually disputing anything here but pointing out the need of a central control and why.

blain2: without a shadow of doubt, most of the COIN training anywhere in the world is an OJT type of deal. You bring the lessons back and try to formulate a doctrine and a training curriculum around it so you can respond to such threats better Yes and No. In the early stages the military...

With a population of 170 million and more than four dominant ethnicities, wishing for a collective approach seems idealism on your part This is not impossible. The problem is the way each group approaches the concept of nationalism. From an outsider to be honest the concept of nationalism...

Forget the rabbits. That is just misinformation.:bunny: Actually it is odd that you mention mushrooms. Magic mushrooms grow near the RAN base HMASAlbatross, South coast NSW. These have a slight effect like other hallucination drugs but naturally cheaper to deal with as they are naturally...

I don't care if the whole world knows. They couldn't have done it had you Aussie pukes not let slip your kangaroo research. Well now you realise the real reason behind the cull of kangaroos on defence property. A couple of experiments went wrong and some unspecified oddities occurred in the...

Don't see that statement as a joke but fact. Makes sense. :enjoy:

Initially when things started to move against the Taliban/TTP/TNSM, I thought at last reason had set in. Things changed. Firstly and too many peoples’ horror I don’t personally believe that the campaign against the Taliban, (TTP etc) will last long. I would give it at best 3 weeks. At...

I think you both have some serious problems here. mods will spank us S-2 get the detail correct. On the matter of the so called Siberian woolly mammoths: 1. This was secret secret stuff. 2. The vehicle is called a mammoth and has nothing to do with a woolly version and it does not have 4...

My general opinion of such websites as the PAF one is that one has a mirror and you just dump it in place of the damaged site. Simple! Since the PAF site is just a bit of general intel it will not alter much in a mirror time lapse period. But the underlying issue is, and it does not matter...

PAF learning the hard way about the new warfare..

For all concerned I hope you are very wrong. Such an act of peace deals would be an insult to those soldiers who have given their lives for this. :agree: