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This is unsubstantiated. So hold your horses. Let’s not jump to hysterical conclusions.

شکر ہے کہ ان کے بس میں نہیں۔ ورنہ ان کے پیچے جو ہاتھ ہیں وہ تو یہی چاہتے ہیں-

ڈر تو اسی بات کا ہے کے نوبت یہاں تک نہ پہنچ جاۓ۔ پر اندھوں کو مثالیں بھی نذر نہیں آتی۔ اپنی دھن میں مست ہیں۔

بلکل ایسا ہی ہے۔ ہمیں دین اور پاکستان سے زیادہ اپنی ڈیڑھ اینٹ کی مسجد عزیز ہے۔ الله ہمیں ہدایت دے-

ان سے زیادہ جاہل وہ لوگ ہیں جو ان پہ اندھا اعتقاد رکھتے ہیں۔

That was my point. Which meeting was cancelled as the OP states? Just nonsense . Yeah he missed a trick there but it isn’t the end of the world.

Any proof of Saudi protest at this? Also proof of cancelled meetings?

I see 5th generation warfare is in full swing... with plenty of casualties..

But you did lump all pathans as supporting TTP and PTM. Also note if this were the 90s , the treatment would be the same towards PTM as was the operation against MQM(excessive , i know) if that’s what you are referring to. They are still only appealing to afghan refugees and Waziristan locals...

Two wrongs don’t make a right. The urdu speaking community should not be targeted and generalized the same way Pathans were generalized by you. Ignore the retards that push a viciously racist agenda. I had the misfortune of an argument with one who also suggested to break the country on racial...

This. They cannot accept that China for once is kicking a$$ in the technology sphere with their dominance in the 5G market. The sanctions were to counter the same.

This accurately describes the situation if you add Popalzai to it as well

You may. We don’t need to agree. Yeah please keep quoting 2-185 when i am talking about the Hadeeth. May Allah guide us all.

It is quite a logic leap from illiteracy of Arabs , to using lunar calculations for Ramzan. Also I already agreed about categorical rejection. It is only necessary when you are not talking about a singular condition. The difference between a blacklist and whitelist which i touched upon earlier...

I like how anything is open to interpretation when i submit it but not when you post it. Translations of ulema ARE open to interpretation and they are NOT THE WORD of Allah. As for the rest I generally agree, except for the part The Hadeeth i posted prohibits starting of Ramzan without...

1)Taqi Usmani’s translation says witness and leaves it at that. It is open to interpretation and that is what i said. 3)Agreed. I never maintained views of the said scholars as definitive proof of them being words of Allah. Thats why i said it’s beside the point. As for Taqi Usmani’s views...

I said the translations say about moon sighting. And what we have is the following 1) Mufti Taqi Usmani’s translation says witness the month but does not elaborate on it in commentary. 2) Maulana Maududi’s translation does not say moon sighting to which i did agree. 3) This is besides the...

What about the language mentioning “Do not fast until..”? I am not arguing for the sake of it. Lunar calculations are not part of the Hadeeth for the simple fact that the condition for beginning Ramzan/fasting is only singular. So no need to mention anything else. And it didn’t address the...

The point is not remotely about Lunar calculations and it’s prohibition. It is about not fasting when the moon us not yet sighted. That is where grammar comes in to play. It is not a blacklist but a whitelist. For the lack of a better analogy. The language of the Hadeeth is clearly indicative of...

Dare i say, this hand was forced by the government strategy?