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    Air Force Chiefs leaves for China

    I think PAF personally does not hate twin engine because they have 2 engines but don't prefer them due to the high maintenance cost they have. Well as 2nd hand F-16 cost lesser than a JF-17 buying if available wont be wrong? I am not saying completely stop thunder program but keep the option...
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    Air Force Chiefs leaves for China

    Well I personally beleive that Pakistan should work on the Turkish 5th gen fighter and also get in talks with China for a couple of squadrons of J-31 as TAI TFX is still on drawing boards. Moreover we should also get in talks with Turkey for their used F-16s which they would be retiring once...
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    Pakistan,s defence spending lowest in region

    Well there are many threads on this forum that will provide you with the answers you seek and if you still feel unsatisfied, Google is your friend.
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    Air Force Chiefs leaves for China

    That is very true, even I believe PAF and PN should go for a couple of squadron of J-11 but the real problem my friend are the funds. If we go for J-11 or J-10 in sufficient numbers then either JF-17 program would face lack of funds or 5th gen would be delayed. During MMRCA USA offered India...
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    Air Force Chiefs leaves for China

    Well if that's the case then Israelis must have favoured F-16I in MMRCA and made sure that India chooses it. However Israel always tries to somehow gets its hands on Pakistan but Indians always back out. I have even heard that Israel wanted to attack Kahutta just like it did in Iraq. For that...
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    Pakistan,s defence spending lowest in region

    Who said Pakistan was not involved in development of JF-17 and MBT-2000?
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    Pakistan,s defence spending lowest in region

    First of all for the first time you are correct JF-17 is a joint venture but Pakistan's contribution is not limited to finance. Pakistan produces 60% of it domestically and the rest China provides us which, btw includes the engine which we weren't getting directly up till now. Next Al-Khalid is...
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    Air Force Chiefs leaves for China

    I am very much aware of the way Indians handle aircraft induction and by looking at the way they have handled Rafale tender, Su-50 is more than a decade away. My point was by the time we'll get the deliveries of J-11 or J-10, the later being more likely, and train on them the decade would have...
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    Pakistan,s defence spending lowest in region

    See this is what too much grass does, you are reading my post and not understanding it. No problem I'll explain, you need to stop eating grass if you want that your jets should fly and then actually be inducted in air force as well and tanks that are so good that at least your own army decides...
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    Pakistan,s defence spending lowest in region

    We got that and soon after 1973 we ate grass for a couple of decades but then we stopped you know eating grass is not good for making fighter jets and tanks.
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    What would have happened had Soviets won in Afghanistan?

    If Soviets would have won the next thing they would have done invade Pakistan with their dear friend and Pakistan would have been history. Balochistan would have been with Iran, KPK with Afghanistan, Punjab with major portion of Sindh in India, Karachi would have been a free port like Hong Kong...
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    Pakistan,s defence spending lowest in region

    Eating only grass for centuries you guys must be a master in that by now?
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    Air Force Chiefs leaves for China

    It is planned that once all Block 2 have rolled out then the existing Block 1 would be upgraded to Block 2 standards. Unfortunately in PAF's case cost is always major factor. Cost was the reason we did not utilise the option of 36 F-16 Block 50/52 and only purchased 18. Keeping in mind that we...
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    Air Force Chiefs leaves for China

    What I meant was technologically on par with J-10. I am fully aware of the fact that Flankers are heavy air superiority fighters that have a longer range and larger payload and JF-17 is light weight multi role with limited range and payload.
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    Pakistan,s defence spending lowest in region

    No need to do that our government is after other politicians money these days:-) And if such a situation arises I wont be the only one transferring the money. Remember Paksitanis were ready to eat grass for atomic bomb.:pakistan:
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    Pakistan,s defence spending lowest in region

    A further increase of $2 billion would help pick up the pace of modernizing.
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    Air Force Chiefs leaves for China

    Waiting for J-20 or J-31 is more ideal than J-10 because we can improve JF-17 and bring it on par with J-10 in next 5 year or so.
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    Pakistan,s defence spending lowest in region

    All those who are saying that Pakistan's defence budget is enough must understand that with a budget of $5.4 billion we are fighting a war so the defence budget must be increased. Low defence budget is hindering our modernizing pace there are instances where our armed forces have to chose an...
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    Air Force Chiefs leaves for China

    Hope they return with an AESA and WS-13 for JF-17.
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    Pakistan $1 Trillion Economy

    And why are we not declaring it then?
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