Muslims should unite to confront Indian Propaganda

[magra]

Equal.

Good. If Islam considers man and woman as equal, then why man can marry multiple women but not vice versa. Is it not against the principle of equality?

 

[gulli]

Homosexuality has nothing to do with respecting women.
Have you not seen Khajuraho statues or heard about Kamasutra? In earlier times, we were much more accepting of all kinds of sexual orientations. It is only in the last 3 or 4 centuries that we have become of more rigid mindset.

Khajuraho statues are for homosexuals?? Homosexuality is a sick state of mind which needs immediate cure..

 

[Indos]

Good. If Islam considers man and woman as equal, then why man can marry multiple women but not vice versa. Is it not against the principle of equality?

Nope, it is good to spread Islam as well, dont see thing as one perspective. Women when she becomes a mother, her position is better 3 time in the face of her child according to prophet Hadith. Other hadith tell that heaven lies in the foot of our mother.

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LOL even in Indonesia we call them as emak emak ( mother ), and women who has become mother in here understand their elevated rank and become the bravest to fight police

 

[magra]

Khajuraho statues are for homosexuals?? Homosexuality is a sick state of mind which needs immediate cure..

Khajaraho has different statues depicting all kinds of sexual orientations and postures.

How did you judge that homosexuality is a sick state of mind? Tell me which qualified pyschiatrist gave you this consultation?

 

[Goenitz]

then why man can marry multiple women but not vice versa. Is it not against the principle of equality?

You cannot translate things across human. For instance, UK laws will prefer UK citizen over others. Or Man Olympian and woman Olympian are not same.

Similarly, in Islamic system, Men are responsible for food, shelter, security etc. So if a man can provide that to several women, he is allowed to have max 4. Woman are dependent in Islamic social system.

 

[magra]

Nope, it is good to spread Islam as well, dont see thing as one perspective. Women when she becomes a mother, her position is better 3 time in the face of her child according to prophet Hadith. Other hadith tell that heaven lies in the foot of our mother.

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LOL even in Indonesia we call them as emak emak ( mother ), and women who has become mother in here understand their elevated rank and become the bravest to fight police

Motherhood is a special time accorded only to woman.
Lets talk about pre-motherhood, do you think man and woman are equal in Islam? And if yes, do you think then both should have equal rights i.e. man's rights not being superior to woman's?

 

[gulli]

Khajaraho has different statues depicting all kinds of sexual orientations and postures.

How did you judge that homosexuality is a sick state of mind? Tell me which qualified pyschiatrist gave you this consultation?

Keep away not gonna engage in debate over filth, njoe your partner. M happpy with a normal family..

 

[magra]

Or Man Olympian and woman Olympian are not same.

I am not talking about physical prowess where obviously a man is better than a woman. Hence, any sports requiring physical prowess do not have direct competition of man vs woman.
I am talking of rights in general.

Similarly, in Islamic system, Men are responsible for food, shelter, security etc. So if a man can provide that to several women, he is allowed to have max 4. Woman are dependent in Islamic social system.

So if a qualifed woman (lets say a doctor or a lawyer) earning much more than her clerk husband and can afford 3 more such husbands, would Islam be okay to afford her that right.

In medieval times, it was not safe for woman to go out and work. But in modern times, a woman can earn same or even more than a man. So, do you not think that Islam should be re-interpretated in modern setting.

Keep away not gonna engage in debate over filth, njoe your partner. M happpy with a normal family..

You were engaging with me till you ran out of debate points. Cool brother.. be happy with your family.

 

[Goenitz]

So if a qualifed woman (lets say a doctor or a lawyer) earning much more than her clerk husband and can afford 3 more such husbands, would Islam be okay to afford her that right.

I gave you UK example, that law is law. UK will prefer its clerk citizen over high earning non-UK citizen. Similarly, in Islamic social system, women can't have multiple legal partners.
For uniformity and homogeneity, exceptions do not overrule/override main law.

 

[magra]

I gave you UK example, that law is law. UK will prefer its clerk citizen over high earning non-UK citizen. Similarly, in Islamic social system, women can't have multiple legal partners.
For uniformity and homogeneity, exceptions do not overrule/override main law.

You gave me a medieval example that man provides security and livelihood to woman, hence man has a right to have multiple wives.

I countered with a modern example where I see numerous examples of wife earning more than husband. So should Islamic law not be updated as per modern setting?

 

[jamahir]

I request this thread to be closed. @HalfMoon doesn't really seem to be a Muslim in the first place.

All members read this post from last year where Indian Muslim member @Naofumi found out that HalfMoon can be a Hindutvadi who is here to spread disinfo. Naofumi has attached screenshots of HalfMoon's posts which call Muslims as terrorists and now he is pretending to be a "pious" Muslim. Also, HalfMoon has been lately claiming to love Pakistan unquestioningly but in those earlier posts he speaks of Pakistani "terror camps".

HalfMoon, what do you say about that ?

@waz @AgNoStiC MuSliM

An organic Muslim movement to do something about this burqa is another thing

But what I don't like is other people group "banning" it, using it as weaponry

Actually tbh it's counterproductive

Let people dress however they wanna dress, but also as a people group muslims among themselves should talk about this issue

Please allow me to write of this tomorrow as I am somewhat sleepy so will be unable to write a coherent reply ATM.

 

[HalfMoon]

I am not talking about physical prowess where obviously a man is better than a woman. Hence, any sports requiring physical prowess do not have direct competition of man vs woman.
I am talking of rights in general.

Don't act like a dumb person.

Can a man give birth to a baby?

Man is a Man and Woman is a Woman.

Allah (swt) created them to perform their respective duties in life.

Men are responsible to earn and while Women are responsible to deliver babies.

Stop your nonsense of comparing the two.

It is like asking is a Square same as a Circle. If not why not.

Khajaraho has different statues depicting all kinds of sexual orientations and postures.

How did you judge that homosexuality is a sick state of mind? Tell me which qualified pyschiatrist gave you this consultation?

Same-Sex Sexual Behavior and Psychiatric DisordersFindings From the Netherlands Mental Health Survey and Incidence Study (NEMESIS)

Same-Sex Sexual Behavior and Psychiatric Disorders

Background It has been suggested that homosexuality is associated with psychiatric morbidity. This study examined differences between heterosexually and homosexually active subjects in 12-month and lifetime prevalence of DSM-III-R mood, anxiety, and substance use disorders in a...

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[Goenitz]

I countered with a modern example where I see numerous examples of wife earning more than husband. So should Islamic law not be updated as per modern setting?

Do you see women earning equal to men? There is still a huge debate in US, UK, etc about it. Then go to developing nations, and see the difference. So, even in modern times, women are generally dependent or don't get same salary despite same qualification.

Even if some women get higher pay, that rarity cannot supersede the general law. So those high earning women cannot have multiple husbands. Islam is not individual/customer specific.

 

[Cash GK]

I do not see neither any generalization nor inaccuracies with my statement but I surely sense a deep sense of insecurity in your statement.

Inshallah Islam will rule India again. Now that Afghanistan is under Taliban, the next stop is India. It is inevitable now. Get ready to embrace Islam or leave.

Kue pacje ki jan lo gey

 

[Indos]

You gave me a medieval example that man provides security and livelihood to woman, hence man has a right to have multiple wives.

I countered with a modern example where I see numerous examples of wife earning more than husband. So should Islamic law not be updated as per modern setting?

Wife getting more earning is not something new in the Muslim world. Prophet Muhammad first wife is Khadijah and she is a rich entrepreneur. Prophet Muhammad never married to any women beside Khadijah when Khadijah is still alive. There was 10 years of when prophet Muhammad being a single man after Khadijah passes away. Most of prophet later marriage is an order directly from God, taking Muslim widow and also to make political coalition among tribes.

I wonder whether Hindu King keep having just one wife ........?