Deng Xiaoping & Tiananmen square | History of China # 09

[dexter]

After Mao a new leader Deng Xiaoping emerged as the the savior of #China. In the 9th episode of the #HistoryOfChina series by #DekhoSunoJano, we present the story of Deng and his struggle to keep China on course to progress. He had to counter initial resistance from Mao Zedong's wife Jiang Qing and the Gang of Four. He also faced a counter revolution in Tiananmen Square, Beijing in 1989. The story also depicts the "Tank Man" who single - handedly dealt with a column of Chinese tanks.

 

[beijingwalker]

Only fools will believe one person can defeat a column of tanks, PLA restraint was the only reason that guy can walk away scott free.

Full video of "tankman", use your human common sense to judge after watching the whole thing.

 

[Beast]

Deng Xiaoping is decisive and a man of great vision. He knows the future for China and steer China towards prosperous. China owes many things to him alone.

 

[denel]

After Mao a new leader Deng Xiaoping emerged as the the savior of #China. In the 9th episode of the #HistoryOfChina series by #DekhoSunoJano, we present the story of Deng and his struggle to keep China on course to progress. He had to counter initial resistance from Mao Zedong's wife Jiang Qing and the Gang of Four. He also faced a counter revolution in Tiananmen Square, Beijing in 1989. The story also depicts the "Tank Man" who single - handedly dealt with a column of Chinese tanks.

Lot of respects for the gentleman who has completely disappeared. I have two friends who were there as students and they tell of the massacre by the PLA.
History forgets the role of Zhao Zinyang - I had the privilege to meet him once when he visited Zambia. Very respected and one that the Party wants to wipe off from the history books.

 

[beijingwalker]

Lot of respects for the gentleman who has completely disappeared. I have two friends who were there as students and they tell of the massacre by the PLA.
History forgets the role of Zhao Zinyang - I had the privilege to meet him once when he visited Zambia. Very respected and one that the Party wants to wipe off from the history books.

We remember that event but it doesn't mean we support it. It's tragic event but the government did the right thing and that's why China can have today's development instead of plunging into another cycle of civil wars and chaos, we thank Deng for his far sighted strategy which led us to this great prosperity.

 

[denel]

We remember that event but it doesn't mean we support it. It's tragic event but the government did the right thing and that's why China can have today's development instead of plunging into another cycle of civil wars and chaos, we thank Deng for his far sighted strategy which led us to this great prosperity.

Yes Deng and Zhao were both equal partners in the long run vision; unfortunately Communist party wants to erase his name.
No - Asking for civil rights was not wrong.

 

[Solomon2]

We remember that event but it doesn't mean we support it. It's tragic event but the government did the right thing and that's why China can have today's development instead of plunging into another cycle of civil wars and chaos, we thank Deng for his far sighted strategy which led us to this great prosperity.

That's pretty much an acknowledgment that China's leaders let their fears defeat their peoples' longings for liberty and self-government. That suggests that had Deng had a greater appreciation of the limits inherent in representative-democracy republican government he would have chosen differently.

However, the bargain the Party struck with the people afterwards wasn't wholly bad: breakneck economic development over ideology, the point being that Chinese would be too busy getting rich to complain about not having a say in how things were run.

But I'm pretty sure, because all the original Chinese Communist leaders studied Chinese history and the French Revolution, that Deng knew very well that once Chinese felt rich again they would not be satisfied without a greater say in how things were run, especially once an economic recession gripped the country. That's probably why Party leaders are making increased surveillance and territorial expansion a greater priority now.

 

[艹艹艹]

failure of the color revolution

 

[beijingwalker]

But I'm pretty sure, because all the original Chinese Communist leaders studied Chinese history and the French Revolution, that Deng knew very well that once Chinese felt rich again they would not be satisfied without a greater say in how things were run, especially once an economic recession gripped the country. That's probably why Party leaders are making increased surveillance and territorial expansion a greater priority now.

We always know that the government controls politics and politics are dirity and everyone lies, the people are not controlling the country as the government always claims.
But people in US believe they control the government, which they don't at all, they can influence US government no more than the Chinese people do, and US pollitics are euqally dirty if not more than here in China, US politicians also lie as much as all politician do.
Chinese people live in reality, Americans live in a brainwashed fantasy. That's why the more Chinese people learn about US, the more they appreciate China.

Studying in the US makes the Chinese more appreciative of China

https://qz.com/568610/studying-in-the-us-makes-the-chinese-more-appreciative-of-china/

 

[Solomon2]

We always know that the government controls politics and politics are dirity and everyone lies, the people are not controlling the country as the government always claims.

The Chinese gov't still claims "the people" control the country, not the Party?

But people in US believe they control the government, which they don't at all -

The more local the governance, the more say people have in it. The point of republican-representative democracy isn't mob rule or Swiss-type balloting on every issue but that people elect politicians that represent their interests, rather than making decisions directly.

and US pollitics are euqally dirty if not more than here in China

I don't think the U.S. has had anything comparable to Tiananmen in a century and certainly the U.S. has become more open since, not the reverse as in China.

US politicians also lie as much as all politician do.

It's prejudice to hold that all politicians are equal liars; you have to evaluate them individually.

Chinese people live in reality, Americans live in a brainwashed fantasy. That's why the more Chinese people learn about US, the more they appreciate China.

I recall very well the difference between the Chinese students studying in the U.S. before and after Tiananmen: the ones arriving afterwards were ideologically vetted and even monitored by Chinese gov't representatives. Thus they had reasons to rationalize maintaining a positive view of their home country. Given that vetting, it's rather striking that 45% of Chinese students still think less of China after studying in the U.S., isn't it?

Chinese people live in reality, Americans live in a brainwashed fantasy.

Everyone's eyeglasses are tinted to some degree. Some Chinese and Americans have clearer vision than their fellows. I doubt I'm qualified to characterize which people, as a whole, perceive reality more clearly - and I'm sure that depends on the subject at hand as well.