Zhuhai "Airshow China 2016"

[Akasa]

Hi,

It is an excellent capability for this aircraft---just compare it to the F35---.

Speed and altitude is for show---. EW suite---sensors---high quality data link---potent AA missiles---that is what is more important.

Normal cruising speeds are aroun 500 knots +- --- normal flight altitude 30---35 K feet elevation.

You are not racing cars over here on autobahn---.

Since you asked for a comparison with the F-35:
- Speed (F-35): 1900 km/h (actual max speed is classified)
- Ceiling: 18,288 m
- MTOW: 31800 kg
- Combat radius: 1080 km

http://www.defenceaviation.com/2013/07/lockheed-martin-f-35-lightning-ii-joint-strike-fighter.html

From a purely kinematic perspective, the F-35 dominates the FC-31 in at least three of the aforementioned aspects. Granted, avionics and weaponry are colossal variables in overall performance, but it would be foolish to assume that the F-35 won't achieve at least parity in those areas.

 

[lonelyman]

At what time ??

11/3 6 PM Beijing Time

 

[MastanKhan]

Since you asked for a comparison with the F-35:
- Speed (F-35): 1900 km/h (actual max speed is classified)
- Ceiling: 18,288 m
- MTOW: 31800 kg
- Combat radius: 1080 km

http://www.defenceaviation.com/2013/07/lockheed-martin-f-35-lightning-ii-joint-strike-fighter.html

From a purely kinematic perspective, the F-35 dominates the FC-31 in at least three of the aforementioned aspects. Granted, avionics and weaponry are colossal variables in overall performance, but it would be foolish to assume that the F-35 won't achieve at least parity in those areas.

Hi,

I did not ask---.

Speed and ceiling is completely immaterial in the manner that you are giving it a ' value '.---. The only thing that would matter would be the EW suite---the weapons the sensors and the linking---. That is where the air battle is going to be decided.

Americans don't go to war to fight with 50/50 odds---they have never done that since the annihilation of Gen Custer.

Kinematics would be the least of the problem for either aircraft---

yes. don't know. keep in mind that china is still a developing country.

Hi,

Indeed---china has a long ways to go---.

 

[Akasa]

Hi,

I did not ask---.

Speed and ceiling is completely immaterial in the manner that you are giving it a ' value '.---. The only thing that would matter would be the EW suite---the weapons the sensors and the linking---. That is where the air battle is going to be decided.

Americans don't go to war to fight with 50/50 odds---they have never done that since the annihilation of Gen Custer.

Kinematics would be the least of the problem for either aircraft---

Uh, no; the EW is certainly not the "only thing" that would matter. On the off chance that the FC-31 does achieve parity with the F-35 in terms of EW/ECM and/or general avionics, the two aircraft would simply jam and counter-jam each other until they are within visual range, at which point close-range dogfights would ensue.

 

[dingyibvs]

Uh, no; the EW is certainly not the "only thing" that would matter. On the off chance that the FC-31 does achieve parity with the F-35 in terms of EW/ECM and/or general avionics, the two aircraft would simply jam and counter-jam each other until they are within visual range, at which point close-range dogfights would ensue.

In which case max speed and service ceiling hardly matter, no? Would you take a Mig-25 up against a F-16 in a dogfight? Also, detection isn't just about the avionics, it's also about the opponent's stealth. I don't think it's unreasonable that the J-31 could be made stealthier than the lumpy F-35.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the J-31 in its current projected state will be as good as the F-35, just playing devil's advocate.

 

[Chand mukhra]

That's true. safe life is a kind of treasure or wealth that people often ignore, people don't aware of it until they lose it.
btw, what's your country? Pakistan or USA?

born pakistan citizen of USA

 

[aliaselin]

Since you asked for a comparison with the F-35:
- Speed (F-35): 1900 km/h (actual max speed is classified)
- Ceiling: 18,288 m
- MTOW: 31800 kg
- Combat radius: 1080 km

http://www.defenceaviation.com/2013/07/lockheed-martin-f-35-lightning-ii-joint-strike-fighter.html

From a purely kinematic perspective, the F-35 dominates the FC-31 in at least three of the aforementioned aspects. Granted, avionics and weaponry are colossal variables in overall performance, but it would be foolish to assume that the F-35 won't achieve at least parity in those areas.

The maximum speed in the poster of FC-31 in this airshow is indicator air speed(IAS), for different definition, there are also true airspeed, ground speed, and mach to define maximum speed.

 

[Akasa]

The maximum speed in the poster of FC-31 in this airshow is indicator air speed(IAS), for different definition, there are also true airspeed, ground speed, and mach to define maximum speed.

So, that figure is neither the high-altitude nor sea-level maximum speed?

 

[aliaselin]

So, that figure is neither the high-altitude nor sea-level maximum speed?

Maximum (indicator air) speed. so it is maximum speed and it plays with words here.

 

[Akasa]

Maximum (indicator air) speed. so it is maximum speed and it plays with words here.

Maximum allowable speed, perhaps?

 

[Waqas Pervez Naz]

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Puzzle

 

[yusheng]

 

[Akasa]

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Any live webcast links?

 

[cirr]

Y20F-100

http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzA...e4627562716fcad0760&fromid=10#wechat_redirect

 

[yusheng]