Zelensky says he is not afraid to discuss Ukraine’s neutral status with Russia

[MH.Yang]

Didn't Putin asked the Ukrainian military to overthrow the Nazi led government?

Putin said "eliminate the Nazi government of Ukraine" rather than "eliminate the Nazi government of Ukraine led by Zelensky", which means that Putin will clean the members of the Ukrainian cabinet, but leave a window for Zelensky.

To be honest, keeping Zelensky is of great benefit to Russia.
First, it means the legitimacy of the new government.
Second, it is hard for Russia to find a more stupid Ukrainian President than Zelensky.
Third, Zelensky will become a traitor to western Ukraine, and he must rely more on Russia.
Fourth, it will balance the warlords in eastern Ukraine and prevent them from leaving Russia's control.

 

[XVIV]

Whatever one's geopolitics, I think we can all agree Zelensky has acted like a true patriot. I cannot imagine Pakistan's civilian leaders putting on the same display - one only need to read the literature out there on Sharif "wringing his hands" and anxiety-stricken when the time came to test the nuclear warheads.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

He admitted that NATO was not ready to provide security guarantees to Ukraine and to grant membership​

KIEV, February 25. /TASS/. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky said in a video address to the nation on Friday night he was not afraid to discuss with Russia the issue of Ukraine’s neutral status.
"We heard from Moscow today that they want to talk about the neutral status of Ukraine," Zelensky said in the video, posted on his Telegram channel. "We are not afraid of Russia, we are not afraid of engaging in talks with Russia, we are not afraid of discussing anything, such as security guarantees for our state, we are not afraid of talking about neutral status."
He admitted that NATO was not ready to provide security guarantees to Ukraine and to grant membership.
"I was saying to all partners of our country: ‘The moment is crucial, the fate of our country is now at stake.’ I asked them: ‘Are you with us?’ They replied that yes, they are with us, but are not ready to make us members of the alliance. I asked 27 European leaders today whether Ukraine will become a NATO member. <…> They gave no answer," Zelensky said.
The Russian authorities are ready to talk with the Ukrainian leadership, if it is willing to discuss Russia-formulated issues, including Ukraine’s neutral status, Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Thursday. When asked to specify whether Russia was now ready to talk with the Ukrainian leadership on this topic, Peskov emphasized: "If the Ukrainian leadership is ready to talk on that."
Russian President Vladimir Putin said in a televised address on Thursday morning that in response to a request by the heads of the Donbass republics he had made a decision to carry out a special military operation in order to protect people "who have been suffering from abuse and genocide by the Kiev regime for eight years." The Russian leader stressed that Moscow had no plans of occupying Ukrainian territories.
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[Brainsucker]

So basically he is saying he is not afraid of surrendering???... Is he stupid or something?... The whole point of surrendering is because you are afraid.

Maybe because if he is surrendering, he'll die in Russian hand. Well, respect him a bit, man. If he's willing to talk for peace then support him. It is the best solution for this conflict.

 

[BHAN85]

Western money is not useful when you have to hide in a bunker to save life.

Learn the lesson American puppets.

 

[Beny Karachun]

So basically he is saying he is not afraid of surrendering???... Is he stupid or something?... The whole point of surrendering is because you are afraid.

He is giving Russia a chance to surrender.
Ukraine will never fall, this war is a shameful display for Russia.

Putin said "eliminate the Nazi government of Ukraine" rather than "eliminate the Nazi government of Ukraine led by Zelensky", which means that Putin will clean the members of the Ukrainian cabinet, but leave a window for Zelensky.

To be honest, keeping Zelensky is of great benefit to Russia.
First, it means the legitimacy of the new government.
Second, it is hard for Russia to find a more stupid Ukrainian President than Zelensky.
Third, Zelensky will become a traitor to western Ukraine, and he must rely more on Russia.
Fourth, it will balance the warlords in eastern Ukraine and prevent them from leaving Russia's control.

Are you joking? Did you even see what's happening?
Do you know the amount of support he receives? He is a national hero. Senseless putinbots, Russian army gets absolutely wrecked, Russian tanks and vehicles are being left without fuel or being ambushed and destroyed by the hundreds.
Russian troops don't even know what's happening.

Ukraine's government is not Nazi, you fool. The president is Jewish, and 70% of the nation democratically elected him knowing damn well he is one, Russia is known more for their neo-Nazis. In fact there are more neo-Nazis in Russia than in the entirety of Europe.

 

[MH.Yang]

He is giving Russia a chance to surrender.
Ukraine will never fall, this war is a shameful display for Russia.


Are you joking? Did you even see what's happening?
Do you know the amount of support he receives? He is a national hero. Senseless putinbots, Russian army gets absolutely wrecked, Russian tanks and vehicles are being left without fuel or being ambushed and destroyed by the hundreds.
Russian troops don't even know what's happening.

Ukraine's government is not Nazi, you fool. The president is Jewish, and 70% of the nation democratically elected him knowing damn well he is one, Russia is known more for their neo-Nazis. In fact there are more neo-Nazis in Russia than in the entirety of Europe.

Before we debate whether Ukraine is a Nazi country, we should first clarify the standards of the Nazi country: Promote the theory of racial superiority and believe that superior races have the right to enslave lower races.




BTW: Just because a man is Jewish doesn't mean he's not a Nazi. On the contrary, I think Israel is a Nazi country.



You backed Ukrainian army:

He is a national hero.

As for whether Zelensky is a hero who is not afraid of death or a politician who is ready to surrender and become a puppet. Time will tell us the answer.

 

[Oldman1]

Before we debate whether Ukraine is a Nazi country, we should first clarify the standards of the Nazi country: Promote the theory of racial superiority and believe that superior races have the right to enslave lower races.




BTW: Just because a man is Jewish doesn't mean he's not a Nazi. On the contrary, I think Israel is a Nazi country.



You backed Ukrainian army:

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German neo-Nazis trained in Russia: report – DW – 06/05/2020

Militant right-wing extremists in Germany are receiving combat training in Russia, a German news magazine has reported. Officials say they cannot prevent them from going.

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German neo-Nazis trained at Russian camps: report​

Militant right-wing extremists in Germany are receiving combat training in Russia, a German news magazine has reported. Officials say they cannot prevent them from going.

Right-wing extremists in Germany are participating in paramilitary training at a special camp near city of Saint Petersburg in Russia, German news magazine Focus reported Friday.

Members of the youth wing of Germany's extreme-right National Democratic Party (NPD) and the minor right-wing party The Third Way have completed the training, the report said, citing German intelligence sources.

The participants received training in how to use weapons and explosives. They were also trained in close combat, the magazine said.

Swedish and Finnish nationals are also among the trainees. Participants go on to join Russian militias active in eastern Ukraine.

 

[MH.Yang]

German neo-Nazis trained in Russia: report – DW – 06/05/2020

Militant right-wing extremists in Germany are receiving combat training in Russia, a German news magazine has reported. Officials say they cannot prevent them from going.

www.dw.com

German neo-Nazis trained at Russian camps: report​

Militant right-wing extremists in Germany are receiving combat training in Russia, a German news magazine has reported. Officials say they cannot prevent them from going.

Right-wing extremists in Germany are participating in paramilitary training at a special camp near city of Saint Petersburg in Russia, German news magazine Focus reported Friday.

Members of the youth wing of Germany's extreme-right National Democratic Party (NPD) and the minor right-wing party The Third Way have completed the training, the report said, citing German intelligence sources.

The participants received training in how to use weapons and explosives. They were also trained in close combat, the magazine said.

Swedish and Finnish nationals are also among the trainees. Participants go on to join Russian militias active in eastern Ukraine.

Do you have any photo or video evidence of Nazi organizations serving in the Russian army? If it's just a picture of skinheads on the street, you don't have to show it. There are skinheads all over Europe.

 

[Oldman1]

Do you have any photo or video evidence of Nazi organizations serving in the Russian army? If it's just a picture of skinheads on the street, you don't have to show it. There are skinheads all over Europe.

Yeah there are skinheads all over Europe including Russia. Come on you can't be that daft.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

wait isn't Ukraine winning by their claims?

why would you negotiate when winning? why not wait until you've actually won so you can be the one to impose terms like order Russia to pay tribute to Ukraine, transfer ownership of Russian arsenal, maybe joint control of Moscow?

 

[Oldman1]

wait isn't Ukraine winning by their claims?

why would you negotiate when winning? why not wait until you've actually won so you can be the one to impose terms like order Russia to pay tribute to Ukraine, transfer ownership of Russian arsenal, maybe joint control of Moscow?

Thats like the Taliban asking for tribute and transfer of ownership of half of D.C.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Thats like the Taliban asking for tribute and transfer of ownership of half of D.C.

Major difference: Taliban was actually winning against the ANA, not the US. ANA was merely supported by US. US didn't lose, ANA lost, and that's what the fall of Kabul was.

Ukraine is fighting Russia directly and is claiming they're winning. If Ukraine has defeated Russian forces, that means entire western Russia is open since Russia put almost its entire western military district into this operation. Ukraine, if they were indeed winning as hard as they claim, would have an open path to occupying Moscow. So Putin should be the one to ask for negotiations, not Zelensky.

 

[Oldman1]

Major difference: Taliban was actually winning against the ANA, not the US. ANA was merely supported by US. US didn't lose, ANA lost, and that's what the fall of Kabul was.

Ukraine is fighting Russia directly and is claiming they're winning. If Ukraine has defeated Russian forces, that means entire western Russia is open since Russia put almost its entire western military district into this operation. Ukraine, if they were indeed winning as hard as they claim, would have an open path to occupying Moscow. So Putin should be the one to ask for negotiations, not Zelensky.

Ukraine winning and you think they can now march to Moscow.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Ukraine winning and you think they can now march to Moscow.

Germany lost its entire army in Operation Bagration which was inside the USSR. They didn't lose on the outskirts of Germany.

If Russia lost its army in Ukraine then they can pull a reverse invasion into Moscow. Clearly that hasn't happened otherwise they don't need to release proven fake photos and make verbal claims, they'll just release real photos.